Would you kill for £5,000?

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Darksword said:
i dont live in london, this does not happen here where i live. and he'd have to be fast coz im going to kick his ass. talked about this before, if someone pulls a knife on me, its a 99% chance they will try and stab me, so im going to try and get that knife, and whethar i do or not im going to beat the person as badly as i can, unconcious and hopefully to permanent damage.

so if i randomly walk up to you with my carbon steel, paul cheng katana (which i have, which is capable of cutting through bone) and my gun (which i have and am legally allowed to own). you would kick my arse?

lets put this in perspective, seen as the discussion is leanging towards killing with weapons.

my katana blade is about 3.5ft long, the grip is 2 and half hands long. if you goto kick my im just gonna stick the sword there and your leg will fly off. you could run at me and i just stick it out and you impale your self. endless posibilities

or maybe your walking infront of me and i shoot a bullet in your skull. are you gonna kick my arse then?

hell, why dont i bring my cross bow aswell, more than capable of going through your body.


you may think your clever, but its safe to say you arnt.
 

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Blackjack said:
Hello Clarice ;)


LOL :clap:

exactly what i mean ;)

oh and is it just me or is this thread turning into a "my sword is bigger than yours!!!" 5 year old discussion now? :D
 

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Ormorof said:
LOL :clap:

exactly what i mean ;)

oh and is it just me or is this thread turning into a "my sword is bigger than yours!!!" 5 year old discussion now?

Well alot of internet warriors out tonight ;)
Doubt you could really find a stone cold killer on a DAoC forum ;)
 

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i think your ref to me seen as i think im the only person to mention a sword?

if you cant see that im trying to make a point (that he isnt as clever as he is) then you are the one with issues. if im trying to be childish i could say i will come out with both swords, my knife, my 2 guns and the cross bow with barbed bolts.

lol.
 

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Darksword appears to be the type of person who would walk into his school (i would guess a primary school from the shit he writes) and go on a rampage. You have some serious issues.
 

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Darksword said:
id sya more for "named"/famouse peopel but generally i wouldnt risk that, why go for someone famous when there will be more investigation etc and your more likely to get caught. £5,000 for your average person. really wouldnt be that hard find where they live, wait till they are alone, get in somehow, make sure you elave no finger prints, shoot them, depending on what gun you use, pick up any empty shells you may leave, and walk out. apparantly purchasing a gun in the UK is actually very easy, although illegal.

Fuck £5,000. Only a retard would accept that, and probably get caught in the process ;)
 

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Blackjack said:
would i kill someone for 5 k? yes. Hey Osama :flame:
would i kill a random person for 5 k.? no
It all comes down to who it is.
a father comes to you and says. this guy raped my 7 year old on the playground. he has a history of crime and is generally a disgrace to the human race. could i confirm this, yes i would considder killing him but 5000 is a tiny amount of cash, the weapons cost for the job alone would make it useless.

The kill itself is no problem. Getting away with it is very doable. (since you have absolutely nothing to link you to this man)

Now we are down to pure ethics. What gives me the right to take another persons life, no matter how evil they may be?

This could be discussed forever :) some people instantly say no. i wouldn't/couldn't do it.
Others say ohh fuck yeah *bang* *bang* hur. but most would probably freeze and realize that taking a life might not be as easy as you think. killing another human is about the most extreme thing you could ever do.


right this is my point

no one, atleast no one in normal life is going to spend £5,000 to kill someone. ok you hate your neighbour he's a ****, your not going to spend £5,000 having him killed, you dont like a guy who plays in your sunday league, your not going to spend £5,000 having him killed. you get in a fight in a bar, your not gunna get the guy killed so.

now someone rapes your 12 year old daughter and you know who it is but they got away in court. your going to spend £5,000 having him killed because to you its justified. your afraid for your life because someone has repeatadly threatened you with a knife or something and the police cant do anything about it, you may be willing to spend £5,000.

people who are willing to pay for it to happen will have a just reason. personally i would wnat to know why they want them killed, but this runs the risk of emotions getting involved, i.e. if it was a rapist id beat the living shit out of the guy and id let him know that no one is going to give a fuck that he is dead. problem with that is thered be too much evidence left behind :p so id preffer to just shoot them and leave.

i honestly doubt id have a problem, when it comes down to it if you think about things too much you back out, and i can distance myself, just do it and think about it later, and then later i just blank it out.

£5,000 isnt a huge amount of money, heck id do it for £5 :p
 

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you can't considder killing a guy because you don't like him ^^
i would never hire anyone to kill someone for me. if i believe someone deserves to die i would do it myself. if i come to the realization that i can't take his life because of it.. it's most likely because death is simply too extreme.

Justice or Vengeance?

you are talking like killing someone is like just above a beating.
if you kill someone.. they are dead. they wont come back and you will never get rid of the guilt or fear of getting caught.
 

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Darksword said:
now someone rapes your 12 year old daughter and you know who it is but they got away in court. your going to spend £5,000 having him killed because to you its justified. your afraid for your life because someone has repeatadly threatened you with a knife or something and the police cant do anything about it, you may be willing to spend £5,000.

I'd rather kill the guy myself.
 

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might as well quote you again...

Darksword said:
well - generally someone you dont know. id kill a random for £5,000 - for 2 reasons, theres obviously a reason that someone wnats someone dead badly enough to find someone to do it and pay £5,000, and i dont know the person so whatever.

completely contradicts your last post, and makes you sound like, well... a dick...
 

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Blackjack said:
Well alot of internet warriors out tonight ;)
Doubt you could really find a stone cold killer on a DAoC forum ;)

they're called Keyboard Warriors fyi! :D
 

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If you want someone to "disappear", you know the drill...pick up the phone and dial...

...f*ck it, i'll contact you, don't worry about finding me.


On a more serious note, each and every war vet can tell you "The first time you shoot someone, you'll never be the same. Something's just...missing there on after."

You might be able to do it.

You might be able to live with it.

You won't be the same, no matter who the f*ck.
 

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tris- said:
so if i randomly walk up to you with my carbon steel, paul cheng katana (which i have, which is capable of cutting through bone) and my gun (which i have and am legally allowed to own). you would kick my arse?

lets put this in perspective, seen as the discussion is leanging towards killing with weapons.

my katana blade is about 3.5ft long, the grip is 2 and half hands long. if you goto kick my im just gonna stick the sword there and your leg will fly off. you could run at me and i just stick it out and you impale your self. endless posibilities

or maybe your walking infront of me and i shoot a bullet in your skull. are you gonna kick my arse then?

hell, why dont i bring my cross bow aswell, more than capable of going through your body.


you may think your clever, but its safe to say you arnt.

no offence ment but realisticly, your more of a retard for carrying a 4 foot long sword (including handle). im rpetty sure its illegal to carry that out in the streets. now if your wielding your gun and sword at the same time your doubley stupid. youd be better off just bringing the gun.

say you just have the sword. now if i see you, im not one for confrontation unless i want to, and ill probably see you in an ally way up ahead, id be cautious because well its a strange place for someone to be, so id just go another way, you come running out in the street with your sword and people will see you.

now say i dont see you and i come up the ally and you jump out at me, im not going to run in, id wait for you to attack first and try and dodge/hope you miss then close the gap and take you down.

now thats all 100% pointless, no one is going to attack me with a sword.

so say you have a gun. well game over for me to be realisitc. but id still try and get the gun out of your hands. depends on the distnace if i dive for you your not going to react fast enough to shoot me, or if you did, not fast enough to shoot me in the head ensuring a instant death youd probably get me in the gut or leg, ill die if its in the gut most probably but im still going to give you a severe beating till i die making sure people question you about it.

if your out to kill me im going to do my best to stay alive, thats fucking obvious.

the sword things bullshit aswell youd never be carrying it out in the streets :p and those situations are completely hypothetical and will never happen. fair is fair tho if u've taken £5,000 to kill me, you should definatly try it, and i hope it was money well spent. youd do better to break into my house and kill me in my sleep tho, or while im on my computer, or in the morning as i leave for school, to shoot me leaving me for dead.
 

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Sama said:
they're called Keyboard Warriors fyi! :D


haha yeh was thinking that aswell, i hope im a keyboard warrior, maybe one day :D
 

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I woulden't do it for any amount of money, living with your morales afterwards woulden't be worth any price.
 

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depends how much i need money. if i can work and earn enough to keep up myself(so be able to pay the rent, buy food, some basic entertaining stuff) i wouldnt do such thing. if id be homeless, and no chance to ever get a better life, sure thing, id kill with my bare hands, from that ammount of money you can probably make the life of your relatives a lot better to have a normal life, and also you might be able to escape.. you can get good rifle for it to snipe down the enemy from 5 kms, and if you leave no trays, you've won it, because you have no connection with the victim. if things go wrong, you can still make it if you're clever enough..(go to a country which doesn't give you out, get false identifying cards/passports, disappear and have a beautiful life with an exotic chic.)
 

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Darksword said:
haha yeh was thinking that aswell, i hope im a keyboard warrior, maybe one day :D

yeah i think you've qualified. :D

Congratulation Mr. Darksword, you are now an official Keyboard Warrior!

^^
 

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This discussion is more or less pointless cause unless you're standing in front of someone with the means to kill this person you'll never know if you'd do it. I think a lot of people have a high morale inside them and would be rejected by the fact to kill someone when the moment is near.

The question itself is a very tough one, because the real question is: How far would you go for money. Killing another person is just a variable in that question cause let's ask: How much money would someone have to give you to sleep with another person, which is a much more known problem. A lot of things factor in, when considering the problem. First of all there is the social situation, which involves finances/family background/etc. BUT there is also the fun. Yes, some people would do stuff simply for the fun and see the money as little extra only. Look at the rich people who steal for fun, cause they're bored in their daily lives.

Personally I wouldn't do it cause of multiple reasons:
a) Selling myself is something I don't want to do cause it means giving up my personal rights and no, working for another person is not equal to selling yourself for money

b) Killing people is not right: Firstly "Thou shalt not kill" and secondly a wise man once wrote: "Can you give life? Then don't be hasty to take it." It's a once for all decision that can never be put back and I have no respect for all people who say they'd kill someone. Even more than that, I say they are fools for believing if they believe that the short pleasure of some money overwhelms the long time issues of having blood on your hands. I wish these people to get into a situation where they have to decide for one or another, not a dangerous decision, just one that serves as lesson.

c) I cannot harm intelligent beings. I have no problems with killing a fly or so, but I could never hurt even an animal. I got 2 cats and I know what I'm talking about. Even thinking about hurting people physically makes me shudder most of the time.

So here is your answer....if this wasn't a forum for games and I thought that more interested people would readit I could spend like 2h on replying with a much better answer =)
 

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Darksword said:
no offence ment but realisticly, your more of a retard for carrying a 4 foot long sword (including handle). im rpetty sure its illegal to carry that out in the streets. now if your wielding your gun and sword at the same time your doubley stupid. youd be better off just bringing the gun.

now thats all 100% pointless, no one is going to attack me with a sword.

the sword things bullshit aswell youd never be carrying it out in the streets :p and those situations are completely hypothetical and will never happen.

i see you missed the point on purpose, just so you couldnt concede. yes its illegal to cArry a 5foot carbon steel sword, as it is for most decent knives.

why am i better off bringing a gun? i could shoot you at long range, if you got close i could take many different options available to me.

no ones going to attack you with a sword? no one was attacking you with a knife apparently in your town... you dont know for certain what will and wont happen.

how do you know it will never happen?
if i was just out to kill you and didnt give a shit, why wouldnt i carry my sword?
the fact that you cant even tell what it is for a start is obviously a bonus.
 

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liloe said:
This discussion is more or less pointless cause unless you're standing in front of someone with the means to kill this person you'll never know if you'd do it. I think a lot of people have a high morale inside them and would be rejected by the fact to kill someone when the moment is near.

The question itself is a very tough one, because the real question is: How far would you go for money. Killing another person is just a variable in that question cause let's ask: How much money would someone have to give you to sleep with another person, which is a much more known problem. A lot of things factor in, when considering the problem. First of all there is the social situation, which involves finances/family background/etc. BUT there is also the fun. Yes, some people would do stuff simply for the fun and see the money as little extra only. Look at the rich people who steal for fun, cause they're bored in their daily lives.

Personally I wouldn't do it cause of multiple reasons:
a) Selling myself is something I don't want to do cause it means giving up my personal rights and no, working for another person is not equal to selling yourself for money

b) Killing people is not right: Firstly "Thou shalt not kill" and secondly a wise man once wrote: "Can you give life? Then don't be hasty to take it." It's a once for all decision that can never be put back and I have no respect for all people who say they'd kill someone. Even more than that, I say they are fools for believing if they believe that the short pleasure of some money overwhelms the long time issues of having blood on your hands. I wish these people to get into a situation where they have to decide for one or another, not a dangerous decision, just one that serves as lesson.

c) I cannot harm intelligent beings. I have no problems with killing a fly or so, but I could never hurt even an animal. I got 2 cats and I know what I'm talking about. Even thinking about hurting people physically makes me shudder most of the time.

So here is your answer....if this wasn't a forum for games and I thought that more interested people would readit I could spend like 2h on replying with a much better answer =)

WHAT?! all im asking is would you kill for £5,000? not if youd become a prosititute.
 

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Im concidering attacking Darksword with a giant inflatable giraffe just to see the reaction.
 

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liloe said:
So here is your answer....if this wasn't a forum for games and I thought that more interested people would readit I could spend like 2h on replying with a much better answer =)

you know, not everyone here just skips over your post. It's always worth making a good answer :)
 

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tris- said:
i see you missed the point on purpose, just so you couldnt concede. yes its illegal to cArry a 5foot carbon steel sword, as it is for most decent knives.

why am i better off bringing a gun? i could shoot you at long range, if you got close i could take many different options available to me.

no ones going to attack you with a sword? no one was attacking you with a knife apparently in your town... you dont know for certain what will and wont happen.

how do you know it will never happen?
if i was just out to kill you and didnt give a shit, why wouldnt i carry my sword?
the fact that you cant even tell what it is for a start is obviously a bonus.


a knife and a sword are two veyr different things, dont be a dickhead. a knife can be concealed your not going to hide a fuck off sword. and you would give a shit beause you dont want to get caught, or if you do fine carry a sword.


oh and im not a keyboard warrior - im not threatening anyone or amking myself out to be amazing, im saying id kill someone for £5k and im pretty sure im both physically fit to do it and will be able to cope with it afterwards. however i will oneday be a keyboard warrior.

noticed a spelling mistake :p wooopsie
 

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Outlander said:
kill someone with a keyboard and achieve both! :clap:

Keyboards would be a pretty deadly weapon imo!

You could wait for someone to get in range of your computer, and smack that motherfucker in the temple, boom HEADSHOT!
 
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