Football World cup

[Shagrat]

oh dear game over......thats the hosts out.

 

[Shagrat]

british olympic pool team would be happy with a dive like that though....

 

[Everz]

They've been poor all night, deserve to be losing tbh.

 

[Shagrat]

and Suarez has scored 49 goals this season in the Dutch league??? are the goals in the eriviwotsit twice the size of normal goals?

 

[Olgaline]

If france and mexico draw

SA beat franky, Urugay beat Mexilco

they still get through


I think...eh

 

[cHodAX]

FS, the commentators need to shut up about Forlan at Utd, the guy was a legend and played his heart out for us, he just had problems scoring.

12 goals in one 15 game run, the fuckers always conveniently forget that. The lad was going really well until Fergie got the hump over one bad game and benched him for a month. After that he was always going to go. He remains a United legend and a lovely fella, I hope he scores 20 goals this tournament!

 

[Turamber]

and Suarez has scored 49 goals this season in the Dutch league??? are the goals in the eriviwotsit twice the size of normal goals?

QFT. Suarez has looked very ordinary, his valuation has taken a tumble or three in the World Cup so far.

 

[Everz]

and Suarez has scored 49 goals this season in the Dutch league??? are the goals in the eriviwotsit twice the size of normal goals?

More attacking league, the defenses there are poor. Ajax finished 2nd with a GD of like +83.

 

[Urgluf]

and Suarez has scored 49 goals this season in the Dutch league??? are the goals in the eriviwotsit twice the size of normal goals?

defense is a joke in the dutch league though.. they even got beaten by belgian teams this season

 

[Congax]

defense is a joke in the dutch league though.. they even got beaten by belgian teams this season

And they're even hiring belgian trainers now, this is madness!

 

[Influenza]

Was gonna say this is Sparta! (rotterdam) but they got relegated didnt they lol.

 

[Tuthmes]

The more players you buy/hire from other country's the shittier(sp?) your national team will get.

 

[Turamber]

The more players you buy/hire from other country's the shittier(sp?) your national team will get.

Very true, and something I wish the Premier League would address. There is such little depth of English talent coming through it is quite scary.

 

[eksdee]

think it's scarier that some of the talent we DO have is being ignored. how is SWP better than ashley young for example? why has abonglahor not even been considered for even friendlies? why did darren bent not get in over defoe or heskey when he was the highest scoring english forward aside from rooney this season? (though, i have to admit, i do like defoe and thought heskey played well against the yanks).

 

[Azurus]

I'd prefer to watch the highest standard of football week in week out in the prem than force through a load of mediocre overpaid English players in the vain hope that once every 4 years we might win a trophy.

 

[Everz]

think it's scarier that some of the talent we DO have is being ignored. how is SWP better than ashley young for example? why has abonglahor not even been considered for even friendlies? why did darren bent not get in over defoe or heskey when he was the highest scoring english forward aside from rooney this season? (though, i have to admit, i do like defoe and thought heskey played well against the yanks).

Overrated as shit, No longer Villa's golden boy.

 

[Mauness]

Its a shame zamora was injured from the cup final, as he would of been a perfect partnet for rooney, his hold up play is amazing and he actually scores goals too

Oh it also helps if capello liked him :lol:

 

[soze]

Last time there was a cap on foreign talent in the top division was around the time England failed to qualify for two? major competitions. Just because you tell a division one player he is now a premier league player it does not make him or England better. Its a stupid tiered argument.

 

[Ch3tan]

Its a shame zamora was injured from the cup final, as he would of been a perfect partnet for rooney, his hold up play is amazing and he actually scores goals too

Oh it also helps if capello liked him :lol:

Capello does like Zamora, I agree it's a massive shame he was injured, in his form and confidence he would have made a perfect choice as second striker. 10 times the player Heskey is, and scores goals too.

 

[Tuthmes]

Last time there was a cap on foreign talent in the top division was around the time England failed to qualify for two? major competitions. Just because you tell a division one player he is now a premier league player it does not make him or England better. Its a stupid tiered argument.

It does. You'll get better when surrounded by better players. Fking about in division one, wont make it so.

Also instead of buying every good player in the world, you'll have todo something about the development of players at your own clubs. This will create better players from your own country and thus your national team.

Leave alone the big debits clubs are facing l8tly, which would be solved (in part) with this aswell.

 

[soze]

It does. You'll get better when surrounded by better players. Fking about in division one, wont make it so.

Also instead of buying every good player in the world, you'll have todo something about the development of players at your own clubs. This will create better players from your own country and thus your national team.

Leave alone the big debits clubs are facing l8tly, which would be solved (in part) with this aswell.

No it wont you will have to get rid of too many good foreign players and promote too many average players. So The premiership will drop to the standard of The Championship. Some teams will need to lose 6 Premiership foreign players and promote 6 Championship English players there is no way the standard of the premier league does not drop after that.

You are right about youth teams a lot of big clubs already do this but the FA needs to do more to encourage kids to play football.

And losing the foreign talent will destroy the league. All the clubs with massive debt reply on TV money and we get so much because its the best League in the world you ruin that getting rid of all the talented foreign players and replacing them. So the TV deals would go away and more clubs would end up in trouble. That is why i doubt the FA will ever limit foreign players.

 

[Tuthmes]

No it wont you will have to get rid of too many good foreign players and promote too many average players. So The premiership will drop to the standard of The Championship. Some teams will need to lose 6 Premiership foreign players and promote 6 Championship English players there is no way the standard of the premier league does not drop after that.

Yes well thats the whole idea. The average players has to get better then average.
This way it sounds like a drug addict (sorry for the metafor); "We need the foreign players to have a higher standard." No, you need to lift the standard of play of the native players. But if you keep hiring foreign players instead, they'll never get to play on a higher level.

In other country's its exactly the opposite. The Dutch league whas mentioned of having a poor defense overall. It's true, but all the good Dutch players are playing abroad. The moment some club has a good player it gets bought.

 

[soze]

Yes well thats the whole idea. The average players has to get better then average.
This way it sounds like a drug addict (sorry for the metafor); "We need the foreign players to have a higher standard." No, you need to lift the standard of play of the native players. But if you keep hiring foreign players instead, they'll never get to play on a higher level.

In other country's its exactly the opposite. The Dutch league whas mentioned of having a poor defense overall. It's true, but all the good Dutch players are playing abroad. The moment some club has a good player it gets bought.

I see what you are saying but enforcing 8 English players to every team will not improve the standard, too many players will need to come up a division meaning they are surrounded by the same players but they now play for a premier league team. The only solution is to make the kids better which a lot of clubs do Arsenal have 4 or 5 English players with a real chance of breaking into the first team. And having them play with the best players in the world can only help. But having them play with an average player because he has a English passport will not.

 

[Tuthmes]

Yah I see what you're saying aswell, but the way it goes now is that of those 4 or 5 English players only 1 or 2 will make it into the first team. So you'll loose 3 or 4 good players with potential and god knows where they'd end up. Saudi Arabia usually with a bankroll full of cash (pun intended).

Not every player with potential get's there, because of circumstances (you name it). Not every player without much potential, has no chance to improve. You (as a nation or club) have todo everything in your power to give the players a chance to develop.

I'm not sure what the solution should be. But what Real Madrid and Chelsea (amongst others) are doing can't be right either. I'm not sure it has anything todo with the club anymore. Its "11 players" playing for a employee that pays them well, giving a rats arse about the club. If they get payed more somewhere else, they're off. Cheering them on because its "your" club or team seems a bit of a farce.

Heavy investing into the youth of your club has no point then either.

 

[megadave]

The bigger problem is when training and developing young players, all the emphasis goes on athletic ability; strength and speed basically. There's so few technically gifted players in the country because nobody attempts to teach it and when someone does come along who is skillfull, it's all about bulking them up so they can "fit in the premier league" Have a look at Spain and it's completely different.


COME ON YOU KOREA.

Said before that Lee guy from Bolton is the best Korean, fuck Park.

 

[megadave]

Heavy investing into the youth of your club has no point then either.

So the teams who invest most into their acadamies, teams like Barcelona and Arsenal are doing it wrong?

 

[Tuthmes]

So the teams who invest most into their acadamies, teams like Barcelona and Arsenal are doing it wrong?

Just saying the incentive is not to invest in the youth when you're buy'ing (and selling) players anyway.

Funny you should mention those 2 teams (duh). Their bank balance is better then some of the other clubs and some of Barca's youth even make it to the first team (not sure about Arsenal)!

They argueably play the most attractive football aswell.

 

[tierk]

Finally a decent game of football!! Argentina looking deadly 4-0 and still ten mins to play.

 

[- English -]

Messi such a different class, pleasure to watch really

 

[- English -]

finally a decent game of football!! Argentina looking deadly 4-0 and still ten mins to play.

4-1 ;d