Work question...

[tris-]

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[Clown]

Hey maybe you should break both your legs and then ask some random people to pay you.

 

[mycenae]

the nhs has issues with recruitment and retention, particularly in the nursing fields....alot of this is to do with sickness because, due to the nature of the job, nurses go off sick all the time with back injuries, joint injuries, sick bugs, SARS, meningitis....the list could go on. No matter the precautions one takes, as a profession, we are always exposed to these things....I mean, would any of you like to spend a 12 hour day in an hour locked cubicle with a child who has a flesh eating virus which is so contagious you have to wash in chlorhexidine disinfectant before you leave the hospital? Didn't think so, but I've done it. Therefore, it is in the NHS's interests to provide their employees with some sickness benefits...believe you me, I know how lucky I am to have 6 months paid sick leave.....I'm sure you'd hate it, if for some reason you had to go to A&E and there was no one there to treat you because the NHS refuses to take measures to retain its staff.
Further to your queries brooky....is your gf a nurse? Or does she work for the nhs in an admin role? Certainly, as a nurse, no one should be quibbling one day of sickness and one day of emergency child care....fair enough they might ask you to self certify for that one day and ask you to work a day in lieu for the childcare, but they shouldn't be going forward to meetings and stuff. Even though the RCN/Unison won't help her right now, her place of work should have and RCN/Unison representative who should be able to talk through some stuff with her and help out.
And yes, just like Dam...I'm one of those things you blokes call a 'bird,' ie female. And don't worry Gumbo, I won't hate you for your comment, I found it rather funny....and its lots better now anyway!

 

[tris-]

Hey maybe you should break both your legs and then ask some random people to pay you.

 

[mycenae]

they're not RANDOM arsewipe, they're your employers! Therefore, they have SOME responsibility for your health and well being....or maybe you've never had a job so you wouldn't know!

 

[Clown]

Hey maybe you should break both your legs and then ask some random people to pay you.

 

[Chilly]

yes more people taking benefits, thats just what we need.

There is a difference between someone who wants to work but cant and someone who can work but cant be arsed. The former I am entirely happy to fund, the latter should be drowned in waste beer from chav pubs.

 

[gunner440]

God you are being pricks.

Well excuse me, maybe it's because of the way I interpreted the initial post which went along the lines of 'my girlfriend has been bunking off work and now they want to punish her for it'.

As for the other posts, paid sick leave in my eyes is a bit.... well all I can say is that the ones who are lucky enough to get it are just that - lucky.

No one paid me when I injured my ankle and was out for an extended period of time. Although on the other hand I would have felt guilty being paid to watch Trisha all day.

I am a nice person - think Mary Poppins but with a cock.

 

[Trem]

pretty funny how your trying to pick on brooky for no reason.

the mother fucker just asked a question. what ever you ask him he could lie or tell the truth, so why ask and who gives a shit what his gf did?

I'm with tris on this one.

Stop trying to annoy brooky into reacting please, he is taking the shit quite well at the minute and when he reacts its generally him who gets banned.

Be nice for once luvs, I don't want to become uber mod and learn how to use the mod control panel if I can avoid it.

I like you all.

 

[Clown]

they're not RANDOM arsewipe, they're your employers! Therefore, they have SOME responsibility for your health and well being....or maybe you've never had a job so you wouldn't know!

They have a responsibility for making sure you're fit enough to do your job and to make sure that job is done. I've been at my job for three years and, having worked in HR, I know people who have been on long term sick, had unpaid leave because of it, been officially disciplined for attendance records.

I don't think it is unreasonable to get rid of an employee who can't do their job. I don't think it is unreasonable to not pay a wage for someone who can't make it into work. It's certainly not unreasonable for an employer to give an employee a disciplinary warning telling them to fix up.

Arsewipe.

Here's a smiley for tris, he enjoys sucking cock.

 

[tris-]

Here's a smiley for tris, he enjoys sucking cock.

 

[Clown]

It also appears he likes tossing off little green men too.

 

[gunner440]

they're not RANDOM arsewipe, they're your employers! Therefore, they have SOME responsibility for your health and well being....or maybe you've never had a job so you wouldn't know!

Come on let's be nice now. There's absolutely no need for rude words. When I used to volunteer at this daycare centre some of the HR policies on sick leave were very strict. The management had to always be informed about these things and not left to get buried under the carpet until one side started taking some form of 'action' against the other.

I still honestly think she should just tell them the truth. Without knowing the other side of the coin all they've got are their assumptions.

 

[gunner440]

Enough of that, this is a nice thread. Full of flowers and birds that sing no matter what the weather.

 

[mycenae]

if you're not in healthcare, you can't and could never understand how sick you get from the people you look and after and how often it happens. yes, we're very lucky we get paid sick leave, this I freely acknowledge, but Brooky clearly started his gf was SICK, not bunking off and had a day off for emergency childcare which is completely beyond anyones control. Employers are well within their rights to discipline someone who is bunking, they are not within their rights to discipline someone who is unwell. Would you rather force someone to come into work, with sick people, who could possibly catch what they have and it kill them, or someone like myself who wants to work, but had a busted knee and therefore can't because its unsafe for her to move and lift people in the correct way, which may end up with me or them getting more injured in the process....or allow them to be at home and recover?
This appears to be something very few people understand....and unless they worked in the healthcare industry, never can.

 

[Clown]

Employers are also well within their rights not to give infinite amount of sick leave to people too, I assume.

 

[Chilly]

Nothing wrong with the NHS keeping on critical staff, and having paid sick leave is obviously essential for the running of the organisation. If there is one group of people I never wish to piss off its doctors and nurses - although I would like to shoot about a third of the accountants in charge of the hospitals.

 

[Pfy]

if you're not in healthcare, you can't and could never understand how sick you get from the people you look and after and how often it happens. yes, we're very lucky we get paid sick leave, this I freely acknowledge, but Brooky clearly started his gf was SICK, not bunking off and had a day off for emergency childcare which is completely beyond anyones control. Employers are well within their rights to discipline someone who is bunking, they are not within their rights to discipline someone who is unwell. Would you rather force someone to come into work, with sick people, who could possibly catch what they have and it kill them, or someone like myself who wants to work, but had a busted knee and therefore can't because its unsafe for her to move and lift people in the correct way, which may end up with me or them getting more injured in the process....or allow them to be at home and recover?
This appears to be something very few people understand....and unless they worked in the healthcare industry, never can.

Sick or not is a mute point. Most of these schemes (As in where I work), are in place because of peopel abusing the system. Therefore the company assume you're a skiving bastard and the stages of discipline progress no matter your reason for illness.

However if you've a good enough reason then I on't see it as anything to worry about.

Oh, and if I'm off for even 1 day, I need a sick note (£10 cost to me) or I don't get paid.

 

[tris-]

you shouldnt expect to be paid for 1 day illness either. afaik you self certify for upto a week, any longer you get a doctors note and go on SSP.

 

[Guest]

Thanks mycenae for your help and support, my GF works as a healthcare assistant on a holding ward (people come in with all sorts of health issues, mainly older people, they get assessed then get put in a surgical ward or a general ward or they die on the GF's ward), she is not skiving, we just wanted to know about a contractual issue with time off, i think its best we close this thread as the usual suspects have taken their normal stance on anything i post, sad really as some people were helping.

The gf does have back ache foot ache swollen joints and has had lots of cold/flu type symptons, tbh i think people who work in healthcare deserve fkin medals for the commitment they show and the conditions they work in, the gf works nights, 12.5 hour shifts, i have not gone off on one as i normally would do because its not worth it, gunner440 chilly and clown and the other "forum elite (sic)" can have your own opinions but i only hope you do not have to vist an A&E department any time soon.......

MODS - please close this thread