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AngelHeal

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Specialization Line Issues.


  • blablalbalblalbalblablalbalbla etc ×10 times
  • General Shield Style Problem: The common attack slam has to land. As the evade tables have been getting higher and higher "not to mention the increases after being buffed", nothing has been done to this common attack. It does consistently miss. The endurance cost is so high that trying to slam on a high evading target uses all of the endurance in four attempts. The to-hit bonus must be increased for the amount of endurance it consumes.
does this mean a SLAM allways lands?
Nerf!! a buffed armsman with a endu potion: SLAM! pole hit, pole hit, pole hit! No1 can sur5 that:p and if he can... u jsut keep slamming?:D allways do dmg :p shields hit big time ^^

correct me if im wrong though:)
 

Kagato

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Requiel said:
Anyone who can write

just has to be wrong on general principles.

Agreed.

And you'd be suprised how many pole hits can be survived now with all the resistances and hit point/con cap increases and several forms of style damage reductions, thats not even mentioning som proc etc. I quite often get my style damage reduced by 200 odd for a start before ablatives.
 

Belomar

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I just wish you would go away and never come back, Angelheal.
 

Bloodaxe_Springskalle

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AngelHeal said:
Specialization Line Issues.


  • blablalbalblalbalblablalbalbla etc ×10 times
  • General Shield Style Problem: The common attack slam has to land. As the evade tables have been getting higher and higher "not to mention the increases after being buffed", nothing has been done to this common attack. It does consistently miss. The endurance cost is so high that trying to slam on a high evading target uses all of the endurance in four attempts. The to-hit bonus must be increased for the amount of endurance it consumes.
does this mean a SLAM allways lands?
Nerf!! a buffed armsman with a endu potion: SLAM! pole hit, pole hit, pole hit! No1 can sur5 that:p and if he can... u jsut keep slamming?:D allways do dmg :p shields hit big time ^^

correct me if im wrong though:)
a slam is hard to land when 1 vs 1 against assassin, BUT the block rate is insane as mostly main hand is blocked and left hand hits so its basically pretty even.... assassins evade so shield users whine cos they cant slam us on first attempt and kill us in 2 hits, its laughable.....
a smart shield user donesent try to slam an assassin, but keep doing weaponstyles and own the assassin in most cases pretty dam easy as the amount of blocks negates at least SB to land the stun style 90% of the time.
inf+ns has an easier stun style to land, but i doubt warriors largest problem is those 2 classes ^^
 

Kagato

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Matmardigan said:
Pole spect arms dont spec shield. or im wrong?

Apart from the hybrids trying to compete with warriors :flame:

<nudges bracken>
 

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Bloodaxe_Springskalle said:
a slam is hard to land when 1 vs 1 against assassin, BUT the block rate is insane as mostly main hand is blocked and left hand hits so its basically pretty even....
Dual wield halves chance to block, so I really do understand the situation shield tanks are in (i.e. being owned in straight melee by assassin classes).
 

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Matmardigan said:
Pole spect arms dont spec shield. or im wrong?

Wrong

Any Arms with sense and foresight will be hybrid spec as there is 0 benefit's as far as tighting variance from 30+20 < ye ye rr10> base weapon damage than 50 base weapon with Polearm as main spec 50/50+20 = 50/30 +20 < itamz and rr> damage wise.

The only benefit in speccing high 1h is for the 1h stlyes and/or the higher ws. But Then again most people who spec the 50-50 spec dont even consider this and need it pointed out to them xD plus they usually waste there Front load advantage by swinging with there 1h first.

oh and 2 the main poster.......... The to-hit modifer has no effect in RvR in regards increasing your chance to hit, it merely alter's your base chance to flat out miss. on top the 5% base chance you have that is, so having a to-hit modifer on slam would mean feck all, in PvE thou it would be alot better. While they may seem the same to most people they are not. Also anybody who die's from a Slam-pole-pole-pole combo is solo, unbuffed and wearing epic most likely :m00:
 

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Uh oh, a hybrid spec proponent popped up, take cover, Kagato inc! :m00:
 

Kagato

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Vindicator said:
Wrong

Any Arms with sense and foresight will be hybrid spec as there is 0 benefit's as far as tighting variance from 30+20 < ye ye rr10> base weapon damage than 50 base weapon with Polearm as main spec 50/50+20 = 50/30 +20 < itamz and rr> damage wise.

The only benefit in speccing high 1h is for the 1h stlyes and/or the higher ws. But Then again most people who spec the 50-50 spec dont even consider this and need it pointed out to them xD plus they usually waste there Front load advantage by swinging with there 1h first.

oh and 2 the main poster.......... The to-hit modifer has no effect in RvR in regards increasing your chance to hit, it merely alter's your base chance to flat out miss. on top the 5% base chance you have that is, so having a to-hit modifer on slam would mean feck all, in PvE thou it would be alot better. While they may seem the same to most people they are not. Also anybody who die's from a Slam-pole-pole-pole combo is solo, unbuffed and wearing epic most likely :m00:


Havent you gone away yet ? :rolleyes:

Can't be bothered to argue to be honest, its all been said before.
 

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Kagato said:
Havent you gone away yet ? :rolleyes:

Can't be bothered to argue to be honest, its all been said before.

Still the Same old, Stuborn to a point that it becomes painful. Sometimes Stuborness can be a virture but most of the time it's a negative aspect. I know I suffer it 2. :m00:

Ye working holiday in the US. Doesnt mean I cant read boards and offer insight into something I actually know about ^^

See the Light Armsmen of Daoc! Dont be Stuborn/ uninformed! Release Teh Hybrid inside! :flame:

Or

As Gunz would say: Roll a Merc xDDD
 

Bloodaxe_Springskalle

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Belomar said:
Dual wield halves chance to block, so I really do understand the situation shield tanks are in (i.e. being owned in straight melee by assassin classes).

get up the 2h and whack us down then ^^
 

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