nath
Fledgling Freddie
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How do you mean in the civilisational level? The descovery of penicillin changed our civilisation a bit, so did the invention of the wheel etc. etc. You seem to be saying that more or less every good thing humans have ever done (apart from the ones that didn't involve violence) involved violence which is a tautology tbh.