Wild Power vs Mastery of Magery

W

-Wedge-

Guest
Too bad I lost the link...

But there is a Team-Leader report about resists (and you are going to wonder why I'm bringing up resists here)..

He concluded that because resists are taken into account several times in the calculation of your end-damage... MoM will work against you rather then for you... MoM does NOT remove the effect of MoA...

Now I'll try my best to lookup the post regarding this (it wasnt on vnboards.ign.com, but a link to another board)... But according to the TL, MoM did increase damage, but not 3% (due to how resists are calculated)...
 
O

old.SadonTheGrey

Guest
Frankly I'd rather got WP on the off chance that a bolt would crit more to one shot them goons other wise known as runemasters ><
 
W

-Wedge-

Guest
1-shotting runies RULEZ...

Also 1-shotting elfs and luri's RULEZ...

Frankly, 1-shotting in general RULEZ, except when they do it to me, then its NERF THEM! ;)
 
O

old.Odysseus

Guest
He concluded that because resists are taken into account several times in the calculation of your end-damage... MoM will work against you rather then for you
Click to expand...

I would really like to see that calculation, sounds highly unlikely that MoM would actually lower the damage output.
 
W

-Wedge-

Guest
Well, it was a rather huge calculation ;) (kind of like yours :p)

I'll try and find it again (so far, unlucky)...

And not sure if it lowered the end-damage (to a point where its lower then before MoM), but it sure as heck didnt give 3% more damage...
 
O

old.Odysseus

Guest
Sounds interesting, any information that can augment my calculations would be interesting :)

In none of my above calculations have I considered resistances and if they are applied in a non-direct way as you imply, it may have some impact on the obvious disparicy my calculations show between the two RA's.
 
W

-Wedge-

Guest
Took me some LONG searching before I found this post :p

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=38369747&start=38631432

Basicly, if you have MoM 5 and your up against someone with AoM 5, you do 3% less damage then you would if both had no AoM or MoM... (atleast I think thats it :p)

Some nice caster issues in there too, but thats another story ;)

The part that's intresting for this post would be the Resist part...
 
S

Spudgie

Guest
Taldren the new eld TL worked this out a long time ago

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Is the damage of the spell that is used to determine what the max crit is taken before or after resists?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


After.


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, does attaining rr5 (and thus the higher af and damage caps) increase the max damage you can do over 3x delve?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Nope. 3x is a hard cap.


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
And, does MoM or Relic bonus increase the effective delve, and thus increase your damage cap? Or does it not calculate at all, and is wasted if you're capping on damage anyway?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Damage = ((Delv * Int% * Relic% * Keep% * Spec% * 1.35 * Level%)) * MoM% * Resists%

The part inside the (( )) is limited to 3x delv damage.


Mastery of Magery + Wild Power effects are summed up here - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/j.massa/MoMvsWP.htm


Thx Taldren :)
 
O

old.Arctic

Guest
i think the 1-50% on a crit is wrong. i have crit with my wizard for 100%+ dmg. was something like 700-900 + 700-900 with my speccbolt(firewizard).. on a yellow. and it has happend several times... dunno if they have changed stuff, my wizard is deleted so i can't test. But he was kinda uber anyway, think the GM tweaked him.... ,) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

aah :m00:


//edit// this was along time ago, no RAs or anything, we didn't have the powerrelic.. RvR. //edit//
 
S

Spudgie

Guest
Something i asked on mypetmage

Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
928+928crit with Bolt of Uncreation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Can't always believe what you see. The 928 (left) is limited to 3 times the delv damage of the spell. The 928 (right) is limited to 50% the damage that you could of done. So if the 928 was a max crit it means that you would of done 1856 damage + 928 crit, but were limited by the spell cap.
 
O

old.Arctic

Guest
maybe it was something that got "fixed" later. b/c i did those dmg in the olddays :) :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

aah :m00:
 
Q

Qte Eth

Guest
about 3 crits-u can crit 3 times and u can crit 0 times
its same math that gives average damage and average also includes 1000 crits in a row just that will never happen.
about mom vs aom -its diffent story -basically aom is better then mom of course but does that means u are to forget mom coz of that?
to make calculations bear in mind that when u have
26 resists and get 3 more resist u dont actually gain just 3 ,u get 0,71 % damage instead of 0.74-what is more then 3% and each aom u take the more percent u get .while with mom there is directly different story -the bigger mom the less u get like
1 and 1.03 ,1.03 and 1.06,1.06 and 1.09 diminishing returns
but doest that means u are to forget mom?hmm dont
wo mom u will do even Less damage ..
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top Bottom