Wii pisses all over Sony & MS

[MYstIC G]

I have to say that I find the key problem to the current rounds of the console wars is that Microsoft and Sony are diluting their products. There is no need for all these varying mutations of the consoles.

This is where Nintendo's experience is imho serving them better than the younger players. They have one product that's doing it's thing. Yes it may be a more powerful Gamecube but that again shows Ninty's experience. They saved on their R&D costs and their production costs and have still produced a good selling product.

Imho Ninty's big mistake in this round of the console wars was not to ship a "DVD" Channel, i.e. to not allow people to spend £5 to make the Wii a DVD player. Wanna Fast Forward? hold the plus button... Rewind? hold the minus button. Parent's get to check the little notice board to see how much their kids are watching, etc.

I also feel that they should have stuck with the "Revolution" moniker, but hey that's just personal preference.

The 360 still needs to integrate the HD-DVD drive and there were rumblings that Toshiba might do this off their own back, i.e. do their own 360. The PS3 just needs to stick to a specification, right now I've no confidence in it as a product because I don't know what I'm going to get.

 

[cHodAX]

360 doesn't need a price cut they offer 3 machines already each at a good price i can't see the price dropping anytime soon to be honest.

The price is still a bit rich for the mainstream though bud, mummy and daddy don't want to spend more than £200 on a single present for little Timmy. I know the core is under £200 but alot of people are now brainwashed into thinking they must have the hard drive version, which is no bad thing imo.

 

[cHodAX]

The lack of official DivX/Xvid support on any console is also begining to piss me off as well.

 

[FuzzyLogic]

The price is still a bit rich for the mainstream though bud, mummy and daddy don't want to spend more than £200 on a single present for little Timmy. I know the core is under £200 but alot of people are now brainwashed into thinking they must have the hard drive version, which is no bad thing imo.

Might be more interested in this version then http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/659411/Xbox-360-Premium-Console/Product.html

 

[soze]

Microsoft opens Xbox 360 Arcade | Reg Hardware

Core version was not gone for long throwing in some arcade games seems cool. $280 £200

 

[Sparx]

And it has an HDMI port too

 

[Aada]

The price is still a bit rich for the mainstream though bud, mummy and daddy don't want to spend more than £200 on a single present for little Timmy. I know the core is under £200 but alot of people are now brainwashed into thinking they must have the hard drive version, which is no bad thing imo.

As someone pointed out you can get a premium from alot of places for £200

 

[Calaen]

Wii is still selling because parents are buying it for themselves rather than just for their kid. The Brain training competition is another good way of getting people to go out and buy one. Everyone likes a bit of competition but playing against other families is a good way of getting people interested.

 

[cHodAX]

As someone pointed out you can get a premium from alot of places for £200

That is the sale price but yep it hits the sweet spot and it is why I think the 360 is due a very good Christmas, especially off the back of a stellar release shedule.

 

[MYstIC G]

Yeesh, does anyone here not work for Uncle Bill?

 

[soze]

that sale price could just be untill they sell out of the V1 premiums and then it will go back up for the HDMI premiums maybe?

 

[Aada]

Yeesh, does anyone here not work for Uncle Bill?

He's known as Boss to me employees that call him Uncle Bill are never seen around the office again.


Happy now?

 

[BloodOmen]

360 owners will be living on bread + water in November :<

(Stolen from OCUK -)
COD4
Timeshift
Assasin Creed
Beowulf
Blacksite
Mass Effect
Kane & Lynch
Army Of Two
Need For Speed Pro Street
Guitar Hero 3
Mercenaries 2
Brother In Arms

Poor bank :<

Dreadful games apart from COD4, Assassin Creed, Brothers in Arms tbh.


As for the wii sales you can look at this so many ways end of the day its a cheaper console despite it not being as "godly" as ps3/360 fanboi's usually put it, parents know bugger all about consoles/gaming half the time they either buy what the kids want or what they think the kids want.


End Result = higher sales.


personally I have a ps3/wii I was going to buy a 360 although playing on my friends and looking at the game line up I didn't bother (yes I bought a Wii for zelda and a ps3 for final fantasy series)

 

[cHodAX]

Dreadful games apart from COD4, Assassin Creed, Brothers in Arms tbh.


As for the wii sales you can look at this so many ways end of the day its a cheaper console despite it not being as "godly" as ps3/360 fanboi's usually put it, parents know bugger all about consoles/gaming half the time they either buy what the kids want or what they think the kids want.


End Result = higher sales.


personally I have a ps3/wii I was going to buy a 360 although playing on my friends and looking at the game line up I didn't bother (yes I bought a Wii for zelda and a ps3 for final fantasy series)

Lol yeah, Mass Effect, Army of Two and Mercenaries 2 all terrible games, sure.

Get a fucking clue and go read some previews, all 3 are shaping up to be big hits.

 

[Calaen]

As for the wii sales you can look at this so many ways end of the day its a cheaper console despite it not being as "godly" as ps3/360 fanboi's usually put it, parents know bugger all about consoles/gaming half the time they either buy what the kids want or what they think the kids want.


End Result = higher sales.

The reason the Wii has higher sales, is because they have opened up the gaming market to a whole new group of people. Instead of the same old games with better graphics they have taken a step back and created games that a lot of people (lets say those that cream over graphics) will not like. However they have dragged a lot of people into the gaming world with the simplicity of their machine.

Using the excuse just because its cheaper is horse shit, I queued with 80 other people outside ToysRus the friday before Christmas and everyone there other than me was a parent getting their child a Wii because of the fun they could have with it. Alot of the packages that were available were pushing the £300 pound mark anyway so cash had shit all to do with it.

 

[Aada]

Dreadful games apart from COD4, Assassin Creed, Brothers in Arms tbh.


As for the wii sales you can look at this so many ways end of the day its a cheaper console despite it not being as "godly" as ps3/360 fanboi's usually put it, parents know bugger all about consoles/gaming half the time they either buy what the kids want or what they think the kids want.


End Result = higher sales.


personally I have a ps3/wii I was going to buy a 360 although playing on my friends and looking at the game line up I didn't bother (yes I bought a Wii for zelda and a ps3 for final fantasy series)

LOL

 

[Dillinja]

Tilda: "Dance, puppets, dance!"

 

[Ch3tan]

Meh.

I have all three.

The wii sits and collects dust. Until I have friends around, and then it comes into its own. Not many titles worth buying it for as a singple player non-party piece though.

The 360 gets used for games.

The ps3 is a blu-ray player, and plays my old ps2 games in high def.

The statistics about console sales is not bullshit, I have 10 years of working xmas in retail to prove otherwise. People want value for money, and the console that sells the best this xmas will be the ones with the best bundles. Now it is up to Ninty, MS and Sony to fund the retailers to offer better bundles. Sony's offerings so far have been pretty poor. Retailers seem to have taken it onto their own backs to offer better deals with the 360 premium v1's and 60gb ps3's to offload them.

Wii is selling out everywhere because the availbility is still shockingly bad. Nintendo seem to have managed to flood the market with DS's but still cannot make enough Wii's.

 

[bob269]

The lack of official DivX/Xvid support on any console is also begining to piss me off as well.

I've probably posted this before, but am still perplexed at why spending from £200-500 on a console which plays state of the art high definition you'd still want it to play shite like divx and xvid? Go down tesco's and buy the £20 divx player.

The 360 does play divx/xvid using transcode360, but my above point still remains.

 

[soze]

I've probably posted this before, but am still perplexed at why spending from £200-500 on a console which plays state of the art high definition you'd still want it to play shite like divx and xvid? Go down tesco's and buy the £20 divx player.

The 360 does play divx/xvid using transcode360, but my above point still remains.

You can stream divx to the PS3 as well but that means you need another machine. And you watch Divx if your like me and backup and store all your DVDs rather than finding a disk every time you want to watch a film. Now i can browse to a folder on my network and pick any film. Same with TV Shows downloads ect. If the machine could play them with out recoding it would free up the machine doing the recoding.

 

[nath]

I've probably posted this before, but am still perplexed at why spending from £200-500 on a console which plays state of the art high definition you'd still want it to play shite like divx and xvid? Go down tesco's and buy the £20 divx player.

The 360 does play divx/xvid using transcode360, but my above point still remains.

DivX/Xvid isn't always that poor quality, it depends on how highly it's been encoded.

Not everyone has access to the higher quality files such as mkv's.

Some people have a back catalogue of DivX's that they would like to still be able to watch.

Said people would probably like to have one media centre device rather than having to flick back and forth between different players.

A £20 divx player almost certainly won't have a network connection for streaming files from a file share.

If you've got a media player - why *wouldn't* you want it to play everything possible?

 

[cHodAX]

Off topic a little but Microsoft's Xbox division just posted profits of $200 million on revenue of $1.9 billion for the previous quarter (July/August/September). Halo 3 accounted for $300 million of that revenue. As far as I am aware this is the first profitable quarter for the X360 and a very strong profit at that.

 

[Bodhi]

Time to use a bit of Aada logic.

I was in Game today picking up a new copy of GT4 (my old one finally bit the dust). Whilst I was there 2 people bought Wii's and 2 people bought PS3's. Therefore, Nintendo and Sony are running the market and all the 360's are just sitting in the store gathering dust.


I thank you.

 

[cHodAX]

Time to use a bit of Aada logic.

I was in Game today picking up a new copy of GT4 (my old one finally bit the dust). Whilst I was there 2 people bought Wii's and 2 people bought PS3's. Therefore, Nintendo and Sony are running the market and all the 360's are just sitting in the store gathering dust.


I thank you.

Using that logic...


Sony's game division just posted a $980 million loss, Microsoft games division posted a $200 million profit. Therefore...

...stuff.


<shrugs>


I am not very good at this.

 

[Calaen]

I was in Tescos and someone bought an Apple!!!!!

 

[cHodAX]

Sony reports revenues up // GamesIndustry.biz

 

[cHodAX]

I was in Tescos and someone bought an Apple!!!!!

...and the person choked to death on that apple, therefore Apple computers are killing people!!

 

[soze]

...and the person choked to death on that apple, therefore Apple computers are killing people!!

Nope that person got the shits to Apple computers are....

But seriously M$ make profit because they use cheap components and over charge Well it was worth a try

 

[cHodAX]

But seriously M$ make profit because they use cheap components and over charge Well it was worth a try

Replace Nintendo for Microsoft and you have a factually correct statement.


It does make me wonder how there can be a shortage of Wii consoles, the components are cheap and abundant yet over a year on and they still can't make them fast enough? I remember Sony made 22 million PS2 consoles in one year and Nintendo have struggled to make 12 million in 18 months? Smells fishy to me. Starve the retail supply chain to make the console look more in demand than it actually is, that is an old old trick and it seems to be working for Nintendo. By starving supplies it has a knock on effect of creating extra demand.

 

[soze]

Replace Nintendo for Microsoft and you have a factually correct statement.


It does make me wonder how there can be a shortage of Wii consoles, the components are cheap and abundant yet over a year on and they still can't make them fast enough? I remember Sony made 22 million PS2 consoles in one year and Nintendo have struggled to make 12 million in 18 months? Smells fishy to me. Starve the retail supply chain to make the console look more in demand than it actually is, that is an old old trick and it seems to be working for Nintendo. By starving supplies it has a knock on effect of creating extra demand.

Could well be would explain why the DS still sells out as well if a shop only gets 2 a week. That has been out longer and still they can't supply demand.