Wii pisses all over Sony & MS

[Tilda]

In the first half of 2007, Microsoft sold 122,565 units of the Xbox 360 in Japan, compared with 503,554 PlayStation 3 units and 1.78 million of the Wii.

So even MS and Sony combined; 626,119 doesn't even come close to the Wii's 1.78mil

Nintendo win the console war!

 

[Moriath]

only in japan

Oh and Wii isnt really a next gen console. .. Its a mass market social toy

Its not competing in the same arena as the other two consoles tbh

 

[soze]

Wii is still selling out in the UK too isn't it?

Only one of the three i could see catching up and outselling the PS2

 

[Wonk]

Nintendo win the console war!

no, the DS does.

 

[Bodhi]

Wii sucks ass though.

 

[Aada]

The games are shite though every game feels like a 2 hour gimmick that was fun when you first opened it then after a while you just wish you had rented it instead.


The only reason its selling so well is because Mum/Dad are seeing the cheap price tag and lapping it up for christmas only for them to see their first borns face turn to sadness when they didn't get the 360/PS3 they asked for.

 

[cHodAX]

In the first half of 2007, Microsoft sold 122,565 units of the Xbox 360 in Japan, compared with 503,554 PlayStation 3 units and 1.78 million of the Wii.

So even MS and Sony combined; 626,119 doesn't even come close to the Wii's 1.78mil

Nintendo win the console war!

In September worldwide MS sold 1.2 million consoles and 5 million games for 360, Nintendo sold 700,000 consoles plus 1.2 million games. By your definition 360 wins. Luckily neither your definition or mine will decide anything. The console war for every generation is always won and lost in the long term.

 

[bob269]

In September worldwide MS sold 1.2 million consoles and 5 million games for 360, Nintendo sold 700,000 consoles plus 1.2 million games. By your definition 360 wins.

Technically only because of Halo tho, these figures will drop again, altho there is a good xmas lineup for MS so who knows.

 

[Delket]

Technically only because of Halo tho, these figures will drop again, altho there is a good xmas lineup for MS so who knows.

360 owners will be living on bread + water in November :<

(Stolen from OCUK -)
COD4
Timeshift
Assasin Creed
Beowulf
Blacksite
Mass Effect
Kane & Lynch
Army Of Two
Need For Speed Pro Street
Guitar Hero 3
Mercenaries 2
Brother In Arms

Poor bank :<

 

[cHodAX]

Technically only because of Halo tho, these figures will drop again, altho there is a good xmas lineup for MS so who knows.

Erm? Minus the sales of Halo the 360 games sales still held the lead in September for software sales with 1.7 million. We don't know how many extra consoles were shifted due to the Halo 'effect' but it is estimated at 70% by industry pundits which would still put the 360 sales on an even keel with Wii and a long way ahead of the PS3.

All that said, this round of the console wars is a long long way from over and I can't see it having any clear winner this time around. Both Microsluts and Nintendo will increase thier marketshare this generation at the expense of Sony but in the long run the PS3 will still probably command 40% of the market in 3 years time which is going to have a dramatic downward effect on Sony's bottom line. Microsoft won't break even this generation either, in that regard Nintendo are the only ones who will be financially ahead of the game because they make a profit on every single peice of Wii related kit as well as the hardware itself.

 

[Whipped]

The games are shite though every game feels like a 2 hour gimmick that was fun when you first opened it then after a while you just wish you had rented it instead.


The only reason its selling so well is because Mum/Dad are seeing the cheap price tag and lapping it up for christmas only for them to see their first borns face turn to sadness when they didn't get the 360/PS3 they asked for.

You sir .... Are a cock

 

[ST^]

In the first half of 2007, Microsoft sold 122,565 units of the Xbox 360 in Japan, compared with 503,554 PlayStation 3 units and 1.78 million of the Wii.

So even MS and Sony combined; 626,119 doesn't even come close to the Wii's 1.78mil

Nintendo win the console war!

Is this fanboy shite supposed to help the forum in some way? It's bad enough here as it is.

 

[soze]

You sir .... Are a cock

No he is to the 360 what i am to Sony. Oh that makes me a cock

 

[MYstIC G]

only in japan

Oh and Wii isnt really a next gen console. .. Its a mass market social toy

Its not competing in the same arena as the other two consoles tbh

1. Half right. It's not only in Japan, but those statistics are clearly only about Japan (where there was always going to be the biggest margin).
2. The Wii is a console, to say otherwise is nonsense.
3. It is competing in exactly the same arena, the "competing to get you to part with your hard earned cash for something you don't actually need to live but would quite like anyway" arena

 

[Yaka]

shit thread that needs nuking tbh

 

[Raven]

Is this fanboy shite supposed to help the forum in some way? It's bad enough here as it is.

Was it not you that was the official fanboy of the PS3? (before it got sunk by MS ofc)

 

[ST^]

I support the PS3, I don't trash the other consoles. I'm also not a mod who should be stopping this shit, not creating it.

 

[Aada]

I support the PS3, I don't trash the other consoles. I'm also not a mod who should be stopping this shit, not creating it.

Face it the PS3 is doomed to fail and has failed nobody cares about the PS3 and how it can run Linux anymore.

Sony brought it out with the brand name + a stupid price tag and thought it would shift millions!

But oh wait MS released theirs first with a better price tag and a OMFG list of comes to come out in the future and that future has arrived this year the games are just amazing that are coming out right now November will be unbearable for any PS3 owner walking into their local store and seeing the shit hot games that 360 owners can buy.

Then Sony released their cut down to the bone PS3 minus a couple of USB ports/40 gig HDD/backwards compatible but people saw this as an insult and are just not bothered anymore.


Apart from being a complete fanboi/early adopter WHY on earth would anyone want to fork out the cash for a PS3 at the present time when the games list they have is dire until sometime next year?

360 gets most games 2-3 weeks before the PS3 aswell.

Good night.

 

[cHodAX]

I'm also not a mod who should be stopping this shit, not creating it.

Couldn't agree more. Close the thread please, the opening post is highly inflammatory and just gives fodder for flamebaiting instead of reasoned discussion.

 

[cHodAX]

Face it the PS3 is doomed to fail and has failed nobody cares about the PS3 and how it can run Linux anymore.

Sony brought it out with the brand name + a stupid price tag and thought it would shift millions!

But oh wait MS released theirs first with a better price tag and a OMFG list of comes to come out in the future and that future has arrived this year the games are just amazing that are coming out right now November will be unbearable for any PS3 owner walking into their local store and seeing the shit hot games that 360 owners can buy.

Then Sony released their cut down to the bone PS3 minus a couple of USB ports/40 gig HDD/backwards compatible but people saw this as an insult and are just not bothered anymore.


Apart from being a complete fanboi/early adopter WHY on earth would anyone want to fork out the cash for a PS3 at the present time when the games list they have is dire until sometime next year?

360 gets most games 2-3 weeks before the PS3 aswell.

Good night.

Define fail.

The PS3 will easily sell in excess of 30 million consoles over the next 4 years, that is only a failure by Sony's previously high standards but that would be in no way a failure in the eyes of the industry.

All that is happening right now is that MS/Ninty are gaining marketshare at the expense of a very sloppy marketing and development campaign on behalf of Sony. That will not go on forever and even as a huge 360 fan myself I can forsee a time in the near to medium future where the PS3 really starts to get going. To think otherwise makes no sense.

 

[Embattle]

Most the recent Consoles seem to suffer tiny bursts of greatness mixed in with long stale periods.

 

[MYstIC G]

Down here Tilda's mod powers fail, so he can be just as much of a cock as the rest of you lot if he wants to

Besides, if I closed every thread with fanboy shit in it, this whole forum would be locked up tighter than tight itself

PS: Imho, PS3 is out for the count until Sony release the inevitable "slimline" version down the line at which point they should have had more than enough time to iron out all the stupid problems (i.e. put in all the backwards compatibility, ship the thing with the newer controller, etc). If they don't move their market share up at that point, then they're gonna be fucking off a lot of people.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Uh, a console wars thread. Neat.

Buy what you like really, I bought me an imported PlayStation I from Japan when it first hit, with Toshinden and I have been a fan of Sony since. Ken Kutaragi's vision to synthesize graphics in the same way as it has been done with audio was truely visionary.

Nintendo has always won via games, to say it's the console and the games are crap is rather strange.

Sony has always won via the superior hardware first and via good games next, getting former exclusive developers like Square & co to deliver for their system.

Don't forget the other systems that got stomped in, mostly likely by the very high success of the PlayStation. I haven't seen a newcomer to the console market taking over market shares so quickly back then and they're not going to give them back like Sega or Atari did.

If I wanted to have a maximum amount of available titles now, I'd buy an XBox or just stick with my PC and attach game pads to it.

If I'd have enough money, I'd buy all 3 systems and most of the console wars sound like blokes without enough cash bitching around to justify their decision of what they bought.

"Hey, Sony sold 243847 gazillions units, I have one!",
"olol noob, XBox sold 4572345 bramegadillions Halo 11, I have it!", while the true fans don't give a shit and play their favorite games on a random device.

 

[Aada]

Define fail.

The PS3 will easily sell in excess of 30 million consoles over the next 4 years, that is only a failure by Sony's previously high standards but that would be in no way a failure in the eyes of the industry.

All that is happening right now is that MS/Ninty are gaining marketshare at the expense of a very sloppy marketing and development campaign on behalf of Sony. That will not go on forever and even as a huge 360 fan myself I can forsee a time in the near to medium future where the PS3 really starts to get going. To think otherwise makes no sense.

Thus far the PS3 has failed next year it may take off but the PS3 doesn't have the silly amount of exclusives the PS2 had.

This time the problem the PS3 is having is the competition which it has never really had before yes the DC came out before the PS2 but Playstation Mania was rife back then everyone had one.

This time? i think people have just had enough of Playstation and the usual FF/GT/MGS exclusives that were actually any good.

We are just starting to see what the 360 has to offer and it isn't letting up and i think people are more interested in what exclusives MS can offer 360 owners at this present time.

Mass Effect is going to be a huge game and any SCFI fan in the world is going to want to get their hands on it.

Also we have a little thing that is LIVE which is a huge draw for people that are into online gaming Sony doesn't have anything like this and doesn't even attempt to promote the PSN.

 

[soze]

This PS3 failed shit is coming abit early it is almost like the Microsoft Fans hope Sony Pull the plug before the big games show up. The real test will be the sales in the months after MGS and GT are released. If they shift enough units maybe more developers will release games for the system.

 

[cHodAX]

The real test will be the sales in the months after MGS and GT are released. If they shift enough units maybe more developers will release games for the system.

On that point you are completely wrong bud. 80% of all consoles sales happen from October to December, that tradition has held true for over 2 decades and won't be changing anytime soon. Sony need to really start shifting units this year or they are in trouble, they know this and that is why they slashed the prices (taking the biggest hit they could absorb on the hardware right now) because they know if they don't sell 5 million units this Christmas they lose this round of the console wars.

Personally I think they will just manage it, barely. For Christmas 2008 they NEED a £199 pricepoint which is when you should see the PS3 really start to gain some traction. As a 360 fan I wish Microsluts would sort thier shit out and realise that the 360 can be a big success if they get the price of the premium down to £199. Sadly so far they are continuing what they have started and are mismanaging the whole console business with sloppy marketing, they still really don't understand this market and it's consumers. They think the same rules of selling PC operating systems will apply to the console market and they don't. If they can't get thier head around that they will never get the market share they should have got with this hardware.

As for Wii, a year on and still not a single game that appeals to me. I stand by what I said last year, an overclocked Gamecube with kids game and a funky controller. Nintendo might have been innovative but all they have done in my eyes is stiffle the growth of technology by re-using a 7 year old hardware design.

 

[soze]

On that point you are completely wrong bud. 80% of all consoles sales happen from October to December, that tradition has held true for over 2 decades and won't be changing anytime soon. Sony need to really start shifting units this year or they are in trouble, they know this and that is why they slashed the prices (taking the biggest hit they could absorb on the hardware right now) because they know if they don't sell 5 million units this Christmas they lose this round of the console wars.

Personally I think they will just manage it, barely. For Christmas 2008 they NEED a £199 pricepoint which is when you should see the PS3 really start to gain some traction. As a 360 fan I wish Microsluts would sort thier shit out and realise that the 360 can be a big success if they get the price of the premium down to £199. Sadly so far they are continuing what they have started and are mismanaging the whole console business with sloppy marketing, they still really don't understand this market and it's consumers. They think the same rules of selling PC operating systems will apply to the console market and they don't. If they can't get thier head around that they will never get the market share they should have got with this hardware.

As for Wii, a year on and still not a single game that appeals to me. I stand by what I said last year, an overclocked Gamecube with kids game and a funky controller. Nintendo might have been innovative but all they have done in my eyes is stiffle the growth of technology by re-using a 7 year old hardware design.

Japan just got another 13% drop on the 360 so maybe there could be another drop in the UK before Christmas.

I know another year with poor sales is bad but i know alot of people who really want a PS3 but they will not buy it untill one of the big games show up. So maybe the latest delays on both games could really hump Sony. I still think sales could be Interesting around the times of those games.

I know people who got a 360 just for Halo 3 so i wonder how much machine sales were up the month of release compared to previous months?

 

[cHodAX]

Japan just got another 13% drop on the 360 so maybe there could be another drop in the UK before Christmas.

I know another year with poor sales is bad but i know alot of people who really want a PS3 but they will not buy it untill one of the big games show up. So maybe the latest delays on both games could really hump Sony. I still think sales could be Interesting around the times of those games.

I know people who got a 360 just for Halo 3 so i wonder how much machine sales were up the month of release compared to previous months?

Soze you are still missing the point though, regardless of the people you know who are waiting for the big games to arrive there is still the issue of 80% of all console hardware sales being made from October to December. If a handful of big games came out in March it still wouldn't come close to shifting the amount of hardware Sony would need to sell to make up for a poor Christmas. Why? Because most families do not make those kind of purchases in the springtime and families are the mass market, not hardcore gamers.

As for Halo 3 and hardware sales, the hardware sales were up 70% month on month but that isn't saying alot as August is traditionally a poor month for console sales anyway. Also there is something else that needs to be mentioned, there were also a number of other good games in September and whilst they may not have driven sales like Halo 3 they certainly contributed towards them. One thing that should be noted as well, the people who were waiting for Halo 3 before buying a 360 are hardcore gamers and not the mainstream sales that Microsoft needs to put the 360 on top. That mainstream is families with kids who want a console with a broad range of games, that is the group that buys 80% of all console hardware in those 3 months I mentioned.

If I remember rightly the year the PS2 dropped to £149 they sold in excess of 10 million consoles during that 3 month period to Christmas, that is an insane amount of hardware and just shows that if you can deliver the right price at the right time the mainstream will jump on board.

 

[Sparx]

did you know that 78% of statistics are made up on the spot?

 

[Aada]

On that point you are completely wrong bud. 80% of all consoles sales happen from October to December, that tradition has held true for over 2 decades and won't be changing anytime soon. Sony need to really start shifting units this year or they are in trouble, they know this and that is why they slashed the prices (taking the biggest hit they could absorb on the hardware right now) because they know if they don't sell 5 million units this Christmas they lose this round of the console wars.

Personally I think they will just manage it, barely. For Christmas 2008 they NEED a £199 pricepoint which is when you should see the PS3 really start to gain some traction. As a 360 fan I wish Microsluts would sort thier shit out and realise that the 360 can be a big success if they get the price of the premium down to £199. Sadly so far they are continuing what they have started and are mismanaging the whole console business with sloppy marketing, they still really don't understand this market and it's consumers. They think the same rules of selling PC operating systems will apply to the console market and they don't. If they can't get thier head around that they will never get the market share they should have got with this hardware.

As for Wii, a year on and still not a single game that appeals to me. I stand by what I said last year, an overclocked Gamecube with kids game and a funky controller. Nintendo might have been innovative but all they have done in my eyes is stiffle the growth of technology by re-using a 7 year old hardware design.

360 doesn't need a price cut they offer 3 machines already each at a good price i can't see the price dropping anytime soon to be honest.