Why are Mids frightened to go 1 on 1??

NeonBlue

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Totyn said:
A good thing would be if the keep switched owners everyday, one day hib, one day mid, one day alb and so on. Or if they change the whole damn zone so it will be more spread out :p

aye agree on making the zone bigger and with different layout...that would be more fun

hibs hardly play in thid anymore dont know why...probably coz they still got /lvl 30

so just left to us zerging Albs & Mids... :p

which is kinda boring after awhile ....i usually play for an hour or 2 then log
 

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as Orm said a while back Thid is only fun off peak now, I have had some great fights off peak but peak times it is Zerg Culture either way Mids are poor at organising together but still Zerg and Albs are just not happy leaving safety of Ck or APK unless overwhelming numbers.

BTW was alot of fun otehr morning when I managed to kill a infil who attacked my pet (lol) and then ran past a wizzy and waved the silly Wizz took so long to cast at me I was virtually out of range.

OFF PEAK RULEZ

PEAK SUXOR
 

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If you guys wanna see albs really zerg you should go play hib/excal bgs :) now that is impressive zerging, like 3/4fgs acctualy moving around the bgs together, sometimes as guild groups. I play alb/pryd bgs and thought they zerged a bit then when I went hib/excal and seen albs and sometimes mids it was a shock to the system (fun though always action) Just gotta avoid the zergs and kill what you can Oo
 

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NeonBlue said:
hypocrasy? that a new word?....think u mean hypocrisy

ooh look another "QQ" ....such constructive critiscm skills

name says it all ROOKIE !!

So.... you cant argue with the logic of the post so you resort to picking me up for a typo?
All I did was state a fact mate. If you cant deal with it then you really do need to QQ.
What does critiscm mean btw? :clap:
 

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Rookiescot said:
So.... you cant argue with the logic of the post so you resort to picking me up for a typo?
All I did was state a fact mate. If you cant deal with it then you really do need to QQ.
What does critiscm mean btw? :clap:


thats the point....was no logic in ur post....never is in "qq" posts

some typo that...since the "a" & "i" are nowhere near each other

nice try though :clap:
 

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Staffzor said:
If you guys wanna see albs really zerg you should go play hib/excal bgs :) now that is impressive zerging, like 3/4fgs acctualy moving around the bgs together, sometimes as guild groups. I play alb/pryd bgs and thought they zerged a bit then when I went hib/excal and seen albs and sometimes mids it was a shock to the system (fun though always action) Just gotta avoid the zergs and kill what you can Oo

Yea but if you can organise a good balanced 1fg of hibs (like 1 bard, 1 druid, 1 valewalker, 2 blademasters, 1 hero, 1 enchanter, 1 eldritch) << the group we ran yesterday evening, you will be able to drop 2-3 fg's of albs or mids any time (unless they don't zerg and kinda now what they are doing). We did it yesterday, the albs and mids do know ;)

//edit

Nevermind, you know it cause you was the valewalker :p. I'm Reyza by the way, the crazy enchanter with her overpowered pet :p
 

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NeonBlue said:
thats the point....was no logic in ur post....never is in "qq" posts

some typo that...since the "a" & "i" are nowhere near each other

nice try though :clap:

Ok let me put it another way...You said my original post had no logic. You patently elected to ignore the part that said all realms zerg, camp PK's and stealth zerg.
That is because it is an undeniable fact. Sadly however this totaly undermined your arguement.
I'm sorry if people dont play the way you want them to play but thats life mate. No point crying about it.
And I'll say it again, if you cant deal with it then QQ.
 

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Rookiescot said:
Ok let me put it another way...You said my original post had no logic. You patently elected to ignore the part that said all realms zerg, camp PK's and stealth zerg.
That is because it is an undeniable fact. Sadly however this totaly undermined your arguement.
I'm sorry if people dont play the way you want them to play but thats life mate. No point crying about it.
And I'll say it again, if you cant deal with it then QQ.


sigh...head and brick walls spring to mind here...but is what i expect from someone who can only come up with "QQ"

anyways...enough time wasted on this thread
 

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NeonBlue said:
sigh...head and brick walls spring to mind here...but is what i expect from someone who can only come up with "QQ"

anyways...enough time wasted on this thread

Think I'm the one banging my head against a brick wall here because in your last 3 posts you have said bugger all. Do you disagree with me when I say ALL realms zerg, camp PK's and stealth zerg? All I need is a simple yes or no.
I have tried 3 times now to get you to answer this.
You keep coming back with the same self righteous crap.
There are rules about post farming you know.
 

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Rookiescot said:
Think I'm the one banging my head against a brick wall here because in your last 3 posts you have said bugger all. Do you disagree with me when I say ALL realms zerg, camp PK's and stealth zerg? All I need is a simple yes or no.
I have tried 3 times now to get you to answer this.
You keep coming back with the same self righteous crap.
There are rules about post farming you know.

In BG's hibbies don't ;)
 

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heh, allways find soloers but need just wander around and look behind trees :)

some classes need group to survive, example healers and casters, some dont, like st classes.

personally find quite easy soloers, example albs have ck, why not waite solo albs come from ck and moving to camp mpk? creat place and easy kills many times :)
camp stealthed apk and kill soloers who come there, offcourse when ported usually come zerg out from doors but waite moment, most time 1 come alone who left behind other :)

must love pk camping, atleast when playing stealther.
you are safe when attack noob st who are way too near pk and try get kills, dunno anyway who in hell can kill peep who is few step away from safe (if you go closer pk, guards nuke you immediatly).

hmm and 1 more suggestion
if you play st class, is it minst or archer? get enough stealth!
its annoying to see minst ~2000 range, or archer near same distance.
if i make some day again hunter to bg? atleast i spec enough stealth so can move around quite safe.
my sb have "only" 18 +5 st.


ps
was quite fun last night after near months break, Ilmarinen say thx for all rp:s and come back again some day.
 

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Rookiescot said:
Think I'm the one banging my head against a brick wall here because in your last 3 posts you have said bugger all. Do you disagree with me when I say ALL realms zerg, camp PK's and stealth zerg? All I need is a simple yes or no.
I have tried 3 times now to get you to answer this.
You keep coming back with the same self righteous crap.
There are rules about post farming you know.

post farming???

LOL..i got better things to do than post farm

besides am too old for that shit !


in answer to ur question...yes i do diasgree with you about all realms zerg when it comes to thid...but if u had read my previous posts properly...i would of thought that was pretty obvious ....even to a Rookie !
 

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NeonBlue said:
post farming???

LOL..i got better things to do than post farm

besides am too old for that shit !


in answer to ur question...yes i do diasgree with you about all realms zerg when it comes to thid...but if u had read my previous posts properly...i would of thought that was pretty obvious ....even to a Rookie !


be nice to the guy Neon :) u might make him break something if u make him think up a answer that dont concist of QQ.....

be gentle to the mans brain.. it seems fragile.....
 

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NeonBlue said:
post farming???

LOL..i got better things to do than post farm

besides am too old for that shit !


in answer to ur question...yes i do diasgree with you about all realms zerg when it comes to thid...but if u had read my previous posts properly...i would of thought that was pretty obvious ....even to a Rookie !

Then you are either stupid, missguided or a liar. About a month ago it was wall to wall Mids in Thid. They had CK 24/7. They camped APK 24/7. When Albs set up a pult they would retire to the waters edge, wait for Albs to venture down the hill and .........drumroll .......yup, they zerged.
But hold on.....following your train of thought....maybe the Mids were not zerging. Maybe they were trying to take APK?

I personaly never camp a PK with any of my BG toons. If I'm playing a healing class I refuse to res people who die at PK's. Thats whether I'm playing Alb/Pryd or Mid/Ecal.

Sadly in Thid it seems that the realm with CK always has the greater numbers and behaves accordingly. They zerg, they camp PK's, they roam around in stealth groups.

You however cannot accept/deal with this and instead resort to posting whines about Albs when your own realm is just as guilty.
 

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Rookiescot said:
Then you are either stupid, missguided or a liar. About a month ago it was wall to wall Mids in Thid.

Your whole argument falls apart there!

Like i said if u read my posts properly....i SAID....that since i had been playing in the Thid the last 2/3 weeks i hadnt seen 1 mid zerg.

As u stated above...u said about a MONTH ago

HELLO !!!...i wasnt in thid a month ago !!!


Rookiescot said:
You however cannot accept/deal with this and instead resort to posting whines about Albs when your own realm is just as guilty.

However your a typical Alb...who only reads the bits that suit him and adapts the facts to his own distorted truth


end of story....

keep trying, 1 day you never know you might stop being a ROOKIE !!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You've won yourself a numpty badge!:flame:
 

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<attempts to lower Neon's blood-pressure>

take deeeeeep breaths!! :p
 

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Ormorof said:
<attempts to lower Neon's blood-pressure>

take deeeeeep breaths!! :p

thanks for the advice m8....ive tried the medication you sent me ....but it isnt working!

<breathes deeply>
 

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NeonBlue said:
Your whole argument falls apart there!

Like i said if u read my posts properly....i SAID....that since i had been playing in the Thid the last 2/3 weeks i hadnt seen 1 mid zerg.

As u stated above...u said about a MONTH ago

HELLO !!!...i wasnt in thid a month ago !!!




However your a typical Alb...who only reads the bits that suit him and adapts the facts to his own distorted truth


end of story....

keep trying, 1 day you never know you might stop being a ROOKIE !!

CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You've won yourself a numpty badge!:flame:

So..... your entire experience in BG is based on a period of the last 3 weeks? In which case you are hardly in a position to make observations are you?
And if you have been in BG previous to that you have never seen a single Mid zerg? You have never seen Mids camp APK even once? No Mid stealth gank groups?
Utter bullshit.
You also state that I'm a typical Alb......so what about when Im playing as a Mid on Excal? Suppose I'd be a typical Mid then?
Almost all your posts contain about 50% insults. I suppose I should be gratefull really as thats about all the content they got really.
Try and show a bit of maturity with your next post please.
 

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why don't you two both fuck off and stop insulting/flaming each other?!

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Dommelsch said:
why don't you two both fuck off and stop insulting/flaming each other?!

//Make Love, Not War!

no one makes love to me :(

oh and ireland > holland! :D
 

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yeah well who's going to the EC2004 huh?!! punkassnigg*s!111!1:>

Givf goals van nistelrooy ;(((
 

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ill give u a 1 on 1, name a mid class u wanna duel and ill prepare it :p
 

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Staffzor said:
If you guys wanna see albs really zerg you should go play hib/excal bgs :) now that is impressive zerging, like 3/4fgs acctualy moving around the bgs together, sometimes as guild groups. I play alb/pryd bgs and thought they zerged a bit then when I went hib/excal and seen albs and sometimes mids it was a shock to the system (fun though always action) Just gotta avoid the zergs and kill what you can Oo


I play my thid zerk Embra on excal from time to time, always solo and I don`t have problems doing it. Sure, I get steamrolled by zergs from time to time, as expected, but I do just fine. Not there for rpts either, just some good fights and I mostly leave ppl alive if it comes to that.
 

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Strega said:
I play my thid zerk Embra on excal from time to time, always solo and I don`t have problems doing it. Sure, I get steamrolled by zergs from time to time, as expected, but I do just fine. Not there for rpts either, just some good fights and I mostly leave ppl alive if it comes to that.

Amagad I posted that like a month or two ago when I first went to hib/excal as bg char :) and Albs/Mids there did zerg more than on pryd.

Yea I seen you thid zerker, even let our VW try duel you, but how many other groups of 4/5 players would ahve done that? not many imo.
 

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Soloing

There are plenty of solo targets in Thid as a stealther. But you have to position yourself in the right place for them.

1 - if Albs hold CK then go visit APK and wait there. Say a few come out and approach the water well if you attack the next one the other side of the ridge close to APK they won't see you. You can also pay Hpk a visit if there are plently of Hibs about.
2 - Use the water to your advantage. Wait on ck side and attack stuff swimming across. The last one to cross is usually left behind and is attackable.
3 - Zerging. Again the main zerg runs ahead but if you wait just out of sight of that group there nearly always is someone that is slow. If you attack that person just out of sight range of the zerg group you gotta good chance to kill and run away.
4 - CK side of MB. Wait there between the ck and mb. Either someone comes from the CK or will come back from MB if they are camping MB or MPK. Kill em fast and run off.
5 - Cocky lone stealthers. Look at death messages and find out where an inf is (ask the dead guy). Also keep out of sight of say MB and watch a camping group for stealthers. Should one break and move forward and disappear you know he is paying MPK a visit. Killer stealthers who normally kill sbs easily go forward confidently solo. So if you think you can kill such an inf hunt him instead. You will find him for sure after he has killed a few at mpk or mb. Scouts are easily located. Hog a group just out of sight and wait for Albs to attack and look around. You will see the scout pop out of cover and shoot then run - follow.
6 - Tough armsmen,pallies and friars. These are confident fighters and sometimes will move around solo. They might not break far from the main group but sometimes get out of range or go behind something so they have broken the line of sight of that group. If you think you can kill him you will have a chance then.
7 - Casters constantly run around solo but i tend to let them alone.
8 - Minstrels. Hehe these are fun to kill but hard. Attack them out of the blue as they run around. You will get mezzed ofcourse but you should have hurt him anyways. Wait for him to break the mezz or someone else and run hard at him after. Some make the mistake of trying to melee instead of mezzing. Some though are tough at melee so a hard fight will ensue.
9 - MB. Tricky spot this and best left alone unless you know it is clear. If it is clear you can camp there and wait. For sure a stealther will appear at some time or something will cross.

Only time recently i had a hard time locating solo targets was when a number of minstrels were about and always appearing at the wrong time for me to attack anything.

PKJ
 

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Few more very important way to locate stealthers.

Follow someone with low stealth like a hunter type or any stealther come to that. If you have very high stealth (24) then you will not be seen. A lot of infs have high stealth so will spot the 'bait' for sure and attack. Make sure you are close enough to help out.

Another way to find stealthers is to follow an injured or solo target. Stealthers are drawn to them like flies to s***. Just think like an inf or ns and wait in the right place for their attack. You will have an easier time killing them too because their poison will be used up on their intended victim.

PKJ
 

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MKJ said:
Another way to find stealthers is to follow an injured or solo target. Stealthers are drawn to them like flies to s***.

This true even in the battlegrounds, I'm not sure why.. I mean yes if all you want to do is get the RP's so you can get on with the job of getting to 50 then fine.. But I get the impression that most people these days are more interested in a good 1vs1 fair fight what is there to gain from just finishing someone off?
 

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>But I get the impression that most people these days are more interested in a good 1vs1 fair fight what is there to gain from just finishing someone off?

If it is a stealther i have no problem putting them out of their misery. In 90% of the cases you end up in a fight with an infi you got his 2 buddies on you too. An infi that sits on the pad is a good infi. Period :)

The same goes when your realm is up agains a numerically superior enemie, ie teh zerg, each dead guy reduces the risk of a wipe out among the visibles or at least forces them to waste power better used for healing if mids charge teh zerg. Quite logical actually. The one versus one concept is soo out of fashion in the total war world we live in :)
 

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