Why Albs Suck... Chapter 1

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Jag

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To members of Albion - with the exception of an incredibly small minority of players...

You make a mockery of the entire concept of PLAYER versus PLAYER combat.

Why do you all fight in such ridiculous numbers? What is the point? What does it prove to beat someone in a 10vs1 situation?

Answers... Albs are cowards, there is no point and absolutely jack sh*t. This is why in any fair and even matchup you all get your yellow hides utterly spanked as without 20 other players to back you up you have no idea what to do with yourselves.

Childish retorts such as <haha someone got owned> or <feel the powaa> or any other such BS will prove my point - you dont actually seem to realise how boring, unintelligent and downright laughable your "tactics" are.

The really sad part is that things simply wont change - you will still remain a mindless swarm of drones whose only personal input is limited to the pressing of F8 followed by the Gank button.

I /salute those of you who actually can play this game ( people such as that twinked merc Blackened ;) ) The rest of you just go and hide in your keep - if I see you outside of it, I will have to learn you.

Kragma - Shadow
Jagang - Skald
 
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Kagato.

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You know most people would realise what utter bullshit they were typing long before they reached even half way down that post.

Get realistic you twit, people pick which realm they want to play in, people arn't divided into realms according to player skill level, your going to get an equal % of skilled/sem-skilled and casual players in each realm according to population. To suggest one realm is more skilled then another realm or even that one realm is comprised almost entirely of unskilled players is utterly pathetic suggestion that only some teenage prat whos balls havent even dropped yet would make. Simple facts of the game, all realms zerg as do all realms corpse laugh as do all realms kill greys etc etc, on the same note you also get a number of players who fight with honour, stay clear of the zergs and spare the lowbies, they exist in all realms but most people will recognise that you find the same kinds of people in the same numbers in each realm. Albion has a slightly larger population then the other realms so naturally we get a larger percentage of all these kinds of people.

Please try and think before you post, its really not hard, just keep your hands away from the keyboard and think what your about to type.
 
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Jag

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Oh Kagato we are high and mighty :)

Look at him steamroller into a personal assault on an individual he knows nothing about rather than address the general issues I raised as to the boring and mindless tactics in use in RvR at present.

You talk about thinking before you get to the keyboard - take a look at what you just wrote!

As for the post being unoriginal - could that be because this is a clear and recognised problem that many people have the same feelings about?
 
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Jag

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Oh and while I think further about this - my suggestion wasnt <pathetic> for if you track the general course of RvR on this server since the early days there is a very logical progression.

In the beginning Midgard had the higher numbers of lvl 50 characters - going way back to the Teza & Sun era. Although albs were slightly more numerous midgard took you down. Hibs were still quite small.

Then as albion began to multiply exponentially we see the tide turn into albs favour. This trend continues and breeds the following results (in my opinion):

Albs - much greater numbers where victory is ensured by simply massing together. As we all know from being in a zerg at some point there isnt really a great deal to do apart from steamroll the enemy or use the lovely ae mezz button. You then repeat this process in a convenient location - MMG or AMG in emain or CK/Bridge in Thid - oooh how exciting.

Hibernia, given they have always had the least numbers, are a lot more organised and imho more skilled as a combat unit as they make sure that they make the best use of every single character they have at any given time.

Midgard falls halfway between these points but has always fallen down in its organisation.

Surely it is logical that on the whole when a realm has for a prolonged period of time had a great numbers advantage that you have over the years lost the ability to actually remove yourself from the mindset of <we can only win by having more people>? But as I said - these are all moot points as nothing will change until the server dies as more and more people leave or migrate due to the clear imbalance in the populations.
 
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katani

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As far as i can tell the only thing us albs have going for us is numbers. like you said 1v1 most of us albs would get wasted, but thats only because our classes are so nerfed its taking the piss.

Weve been down this road before about class discussions etc so i wont bother. You seem to forget that the slightest hint of a zerg by the other rlms has most albs running like feck, no matter what the numbers.
 
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Jag

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Hehe I can't stay mad for long - I love you all!

Any pvp game is always going to have a large amount of ganging up - its human nature. I can see why it happens, I know there isnt much any of us can do about it - whether we want to or not.

All I am saying to the Albion masses is dont be so flagrantly cocky about being "so damn good" when it is simply sheer numbers - it gets my back up ;)

I will salute or bow to any player who puts up a good fight - when I am killed fair and square I will remember the name and salute/cheer/wave whenever I see them. When I get ganked and people spam/corpse jump etc your name simply goes on a list and I go out of my way to single you out.

Friends and enemies alike know this as ever since my first emain outing I have tried to play in as honourable a way I can (if there is honour in killing - there's one for the philosophists).

I apologise for any undue offence my post may have caused when written in a fit of pique ;)

Kragma <Kill me if you can> Shadow
Jagang <Jag the Stag> Skald
 
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old.chesnor

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If you want PvP go to the PvP server. Until then, you are playing on an RvR server. RvR = zergs. If you expect 1on1s and not to be trampled by the zergs in Thidranki, then prepare to be dissapointed.
 
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BrassMonkey

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Surprises me how many people fail to see the point in all this- It's a frickin War!

You are the enemy, we will slughter you in battle no matter what your numbers are or our numbers are...honorable tactics should be left to honourable fight, go Box or Judo or something. War is hell...expect to not like it.
 
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Yoshiki[]

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I usually imagine i'm PAing a alb when i do it to hibs/mids, it makes me feel much better :)
 
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darbey

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Aside this lookin like a whine post when as it has been mentioned several times before , all realms do it. Its imposible to walk round alone and try and invite 1v1 cos u get gang banged pure and simple. Strange thing is though yes we have the numbers in alb but we totally suck in terms of teamplay and cooperation and both hib and mid do it so much better.
 
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Yoshiki[]

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The thing is albs have 3x more ppl in there and they can't kill half of the others peeps if they fail to charge like brainless rocks...
 
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Northstarr

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i love these posts, always makes me laugh at how seriously some ppl take this game
 
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Goryk

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The reasons alb zerg is because they are gimped. In general their classes are weak, and a large proportion seem to have little clue at rvr (new players/roleplayers/generally stupid people :)). I don't really blame them for sticking together. I'd get pretty annoyed if everytime I saw a hib caster solo I was stunned and dead before I had chance to cast anything. The fact that albs have CK atm makes it hard to wipe them out fully too and they have a safe place to congregate. It's really a case of game imbalance which causes the zerging, not alb cowardice, and the game isn't going to become balanced anytime soon so stop whining about it...
 
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Kagato.

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rather than address the general issues I raised as to the boring and mindless tactics in use in RvR at present.


Oh and how did my post not address those issues?

You get the same kinds of people in all realms, we pick the realm we are attracted to for whatever reason, its just silly to suggest all of one realm lacks any skills. As much as I might rant and rave at an enemy realm for cheating or something I wouldn't be so naieve as to suggest they are all cheaters or could only win by such.


The reasons alb zerg is because they are gimped. In general their classes are weak

Partially true but I wouldn't go that far, main problem is that albions abilities are spread so thinly over more different classes, making us more specialised and less versatile, but far from helpless without numbers, one on one our sames class equivelents would in most cases have an even chance, its only small group skirmishes i'd say we are at a disadvantage at, mostly due to lack of any instant mezzing abilities.
 
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feldeshadowbane

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Originally posted by Jag

The really sad part is that things simply wont change - you will still remain a mindless swarm of drones whose only personal input is limited to the pressing of F8 followed by the Gank button.

You are right, we (albs) will probably not change. It's because:

1. Alb classes are not as versatile compared to other realms
2. Alb PvE does not improve group skills enough for RvR
3. Certain classes are not liked enough for us to have enough of them (people find them too hard or too boring, I don't know)
4. The general alb full group will seldom win against a general hib full group (for example), not because of skills (mostly) but because of 1, 2 and 3
5. Alb has the highest rate of "first timers" (first time they play a MMORPG)

Please don't say that every alb is mindless and all albs zerg. We don't, atleast not all of us. I promise you that there are loads of good players in albion but its just hard to notice them amongst all the "bad" (wich every realm has its share of)

I've seen hibs and mids zerg for no appearant reason many, many times but I don't complain every time since every mid and hib would say "lol, and that from an alb".

I could start a "Why hibs suck" and a "Why mids suck" but I don't think any realm is worse than the other, its just that the one with most people is the most likely to be the most hated (hey, I might be totaly wrong but thats the way I see it)
 
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VodkaFairy

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Heya deathvortex :p

Yould you mind leaving my cute eld called Kippie alive next time we meet? You evul bitch you, picking on a lurikeen in pink. Duel my luri champ at 2:30 pm gmt? :)

She's called Honeybunny, back off when the other is almost dead, k? :)

Kippie the level 24 light eldritch.
 
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sorusi

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90% albs simply suck 80% midds 50% hibbs or something in that order... albs are by far the most "stupid" and untactical realm with VERY low selfasteam (wont ever charge a even force etc cos they are to chicken shits) note 90% of you are like this :p

Your takeing this war to seriously when you die you really dont die irl :p
 
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Jag

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hehe well at least my post generated a response ;)
 
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Kagato.

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Guess its true what they say,

You really shouldn't argue with idiots, they just drag you down to their level and beat you with experiance :p

Wasn't the BG's supposed to have a reputation for being more friendly and fun rvr encounters then real rvr lol?
 
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VodkaFairy

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Wasn't the BG's supposed to have a reputation for being more friendly and fun rvr encounters then real rvr lol?

Probably yes, then why ruin the fun with a 20+ alb vs 1 hib zerg? :p
 
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Kagato.

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Probably yes, then why ruin the fun with a 20+ alb vs 1 hib zerg?

Ask the zerg not me, not often you'll find me grouped with more then 1 cleric and some stray we pick up on the way lol :D
 
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ilaya

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Vodka.. u know i love you :) ..but..
I have to admit that seeing my bro play alb/pryd, there are serious problems there with char balancing. So many classes are underpowered/overpowered there that its unreal.

Maybes if all the classes got what they deserve (and they're working on that i reckon :) ).. we'd see the end of zergs... hopefully, because let's be honest, we'd all rather kill 1v1 or 8v8 wouldnt we?
Ilaya Dasquirrelslayer 50 Lurichamp (GM Hearts of Fire)
Ph33r my Lollipop! :)

(btw.. that's my bro playing Gemyni in Bg's now.. Kinda has the knack )

Boowen Dassa 29 Mentalist
Gemyni (sometimes.. :) ) - 20 NS
Poppy Power 18 Warden
 
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VodkaFairy

Guest
Well then let's transform bg into a duelling club :p Nobody kill one another at first sight and beckon for a duel. Already did this quite often but the alb zerg doesn't understand I just want some duels and chase my wee luri butt back to hpk all the time. :p

Wouldn't mind setting a date and location to play some duels really, no rps & fair fights. Yum! :D
 
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old.chesnor

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Yeah let me know when and where the duels will be, and I'll come along and AE DoT you all.
 
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VodkaFairy

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Why? You like ruining other people's fun?
 
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old.chesnor

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Originally posted by VodkaFairy
Why? You like ruining other people's fun?

No, I like killing my enemy. If you think that I am going to stand around and let them live while we all have a tea party and do organised duelling, think again.

Its all about respect. I respect peoples right to duel, they can do it wherever and whenever they want. But if you do it in front of me, don't expect me to stand around like an idiot emoting /clap or /beckon or whatever. I'll be trying to kill anyone who is not in my realm :)
 

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