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Runolas

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/quote random Alb..
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The time discussions make me laugh though, people do get somewhat confused me thinks. I was stood in excal admiring the relics before I logged at something like 12:40am, so where all this stuff about 2:30 comes in I dont know (accepting peeps mean CET). Anyway, in terms of is something primetime surely the number of people on the server that demonstrates this, as mentioned above.
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I think this is a returning point when it comes to RR between Albion and Midgard. Albion is 90% GMT and Midgard is 90% CET(or other). Hib is probably 50/50. Don't come up with the crap about Excal beeing a UK server, cuz in any event that statement holds true, there would not bee any Mids arround in the first place.

Mid peak hours during weekdays last to arround 24.00CET. During weekends it usually last to arround 01.00CET. It is probably the same in Albion under GMT giving you an extra hour on us, thus you can easily overwhelm us or make defending relics at 02.00CET too hard for us.

Having said that you take the relic at what was it 01.30CET last nigth you have to defend those relics as well from those Mids online, cuz they came after you the minute you took them and keept it going through the nigth. It is a 24/7 game and when you pull off things like you've done on the last two RR's be prepared for angry Mids.

I think Midgard is done with "alarmclock" raid, but you cannot expect that those figthing back at 01.30 CET says "We must go to bed now, cuz if we take the Relics it will be lame". You simply could not finnish something you started - deal with it.
 

Heath

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So, what server was i on then after we killed your CS @ Ren, and Beno fell. Also, as a Shadowlord i was getting guard spam while i was stood at Excali saying 50 peeps attacking, maybe you were just in the area and farming guards. But, if 50 were around Surs...what about the ones who were still at Ren...or was it empty ??..same with Beno, was that empty too ?? :eek7:
 

firegird

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Heath: All keeps were empty..we were moving all together taking keeps (unless you count the 2-3 rez bots in Renaris) You are probably confused cause relic guards spam messages to the guilds that have claimed the keeps those guard come from.Eg beno knight will spam to the guild that claimed beno even if he is at the relic keep.
 

Phule_Gubben

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You gotta laugh at this verbal effluence.

Facts - Most people play the game until a reasonable hour. Lets face it as has been quoted, there were 2100 peps on when Alb took relics, they were at excal at 00:30.
Most reasonable peps on the server logoff thinking...

Mid - Damm, pesky Albs, nevermind we can get them back at some point in the near future.
Alb - Wow, we got the relics ! Lets see how long this lasts
Hib - These other realms are stupid lol, who needs str relics anyway, lets just go leech at their battles

Next 50 hard-core mid, who feel they can't survive without relic for even 1 day spend all night taking back keeps, then raiding for the relics, successfully get them home when there's 380 peps online at 09:00 :s

Most players from all realms must be thinking...you lot need to get out more.

2100 peeps online at alb relicraid.

mid do "Who all = 350"
hib do "Who all = 250"
alb do "Who all = 1500"

numbers aren't 100% correct but almost.

Mids faced a tactical relicraid where no sign of anything wrong until relics were gone.

THEN directly after the alb relicraid mids gathered in large numbers and went down to capture Renaris, they even killed Quicksilver down from Beno y-road while waiting up for some late incomers. So i guess the alarm went out that mids were coming in large numbers.

Albs faced a brutal relicraid where the sign "You will loose your relics if you don't defend them" flashed all over friggin albion but that didn't help. mids took relics.

Discuss what tactic is good or bad.

Ninjaraid or Brutalraid
 

acei

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2100 peeps online at alb relicraid.

mid do "Who all = 350"
hib do "Who all = 250"
alb do "Who all = 1500"

numbers aren't 100% correct but almost.
LMAO numbers aren't correct at all. The /who command shows only those that aren't anon. There's no way in hell Albion had 1500 people on, the population is alot more even than your estimate of 4:1
 

Phule_Gubben

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Well I can't do a "who all" in albion so not sure I want to belive you rite now.

Pretty sure that mids don't have 200+ ppl anon and same goes for hib.
 

Lorfo

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Just raid on primetime so I can come with instantmezz+mocpb and get some realm points :x
 

Glottis

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There where 25 non anon lvl 50's online when the brave and curageous Mids struck Excal. Mids love to think that it is the Albs massive numbers that justify each and every single one of their overpowered classes though, so that is why Phule believes it is a 4 to 1 ratio.
And there where 65 in BG according to Mids, but there where more Albs trying to defend than Mids attacking. Strange we did not succeed then, but it is of course because the Mids are so smart, blablabla.
Fact remains that Albs take relic at prime time (more than 2k players is very much prime time) while the overpowered Mids can only do it when there are 380 players on the server.
Regards, Glottis
 

Heath

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I did a /who all while i was waiting at Excali at about 3.30 am....we had about 136 who were not anon. Slightly less than 1500, and i really dont think that 1364 albs were anon.
 

Thorgood

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We did not use any logout tactics or any ninja method. We did this by using plain and simple brute force. One by one we took the keeps and i must agree some people where shouting for us to go to Exc on the first attempt so we did and it showed us that at that number of people we had and that kinda siege eq we couldent do it (4 rams total). Guards owned us pretty good i must admit to that. So we simply decided to take all keeps and also get rams from beno for next assoult on exc. Last time we used a total of 9 rams. And also to mention we had a 50% LD when we reached exc doors so that made us a bit slow on getting those first rams up. But we used no kinda exploit at all. It was clean and simple.

Regarding the hours i cant follow you there. You raided us and we raided back. We didnt look at the time, and as far as im concerned this RR started at 01:30 by you grabbing our 2 last relics easy and simple as that. We was just thinking! Get revenge and show those albs that it can be done to counter rr them in such a short notice. We where in your frontier for 8 hours straight. Killing albs and raiding keeps. You had to see it coming. Why would we make 1 failed RR and then take more keeps? We gave you plenty of time to gather forces and kick us out of ren, or put up a better defence at exc. Also many of the keeps we took wasnt even upgraded so that should have been an easy target for you to retake.

You had 8 hours of warning and we had 1 min? is that fair in your eyes? we gave you plenty of time to get ready for an RR. Let's see you do that.

Here is the time table in CET with comments:
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[2004/06/15]
[10:20:02]
- »Albion«'s keep "Caer Renaris" is now claimed by »Knights of Camelot«
[10:10:02]
- »Rabid Badgers« lose the control over "Caer Renaris"
- »Albion« conquered his own keep "Caer Renaris" from »Midgard«
[10:00:02]
- »Midgard« conquered the »Hibernia Melee relic« from »Albion«
- »Midgard« conquered the »Albion Melee relic« from »Albion«

As time tables states here we had a fierce battle at exc and we did get 1st, 2nd and 3rd down before we went for relics.
[09:30:03]
- »Hibernia Melee relic« is »neutral«
- »Albion Melee relic« is »neutral«
- »Midgard« conquered his own »Melee relic« from »Albion«
[09:10:02]
- »Midgard Melee relic« is »neutral«
[08:50:03]
- »Albion« conquered his own keep "Caer Benowyc" from »Midgard«

Here we take hurb 20 min after we took beno? That is in my eyes ok when keep isnt that high. Doors was very easy to brake down and actullay was surprised of how fast this took us. At this time people began to login in again and we spammed our ./as for more people. These people came to ren using CS. That explains the sudden pop ups of people. But actually we only had 2 or 3 fg more from that point. They waited at Ren for the zerg to return from beno where we were waiting for siege NPC to pop.
[07:50:03]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Hurbury" is now claimed by »Nolby Pride«
- »First Cohort« lose the control over "Caer Hurbury"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Hurbury" from »Albion«

That explains why we took Beno so short time after surs.
[07:30:02]
- »ASq« lose the control over "Caer Benowyc"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Benowyc" from »Albion«

Here we went back to surs and tried again and as doors allready low from first attack they where easy to brake down.
[07:10:02]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Sursbrooke" is now claimed by »Horn of Odin«
- »Shadowlords Society« lose the control over "Caer Sursbrooke"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Sursbrooke" from »Albion«

Well 30 min from 1 to another keep without rams and only around 40 to 50 people is ok.
[06:20:03]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Erasleigh" is now claimed by »Mjollners Fury«
[06:10:03]
- »The Corporation« lose the control over "Caer Erasleigh"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Erasleigh" from »Albion«


We waited for CS to pop and repairs of doors before we headed out again.
[05:40:02]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Boldiam" is now claimed by »Atreides«
- »Dragon Knights« lose the control over "Caer Boldiam"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Boldiam" from »Albion«


Between the ren and berk keep we had albs attacking us and we lost our CS at this time. Also at this time we tried to grab Surs but lord was bugged so we couldent kill him so we went back and wiped those albs at ren. That was a very nice fight :)
[04:30:02]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Berkstead" is now claimed by »White Rose«
- »The Brethren« lose the control over "Caer Berkstead"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Berkstead" from »Albion«

We got angry and headed out to grab those relics back.
[02:40:03]
- »Midgard«'s keep "Caer Renaris" is now claimed by »Rabid Badgers«
[02:30:03]
- »Synergy« lose the control over "Caer Renaris"
- »Midgard« conquered the keep "Caer Renaris" from »Albion«


Albs took teh 2 last relics from us at 01:30 CET fair enough.
[01:50:02]
- »Albion« conquered the »Hibernia Melee relic« from »Midgard«
- »Albion« conquered the »Midgard Melee relic« from »Midgard«
[01:30:02]
- »Hibernia Melee relic« is »neutral«
- »Midgard Melee relic« is »neutral«
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Tiarta

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there was only 1600-1700 online on excal server when str relics were raided by albs (login screen showed that when i connected after i got home from work)
 

Maoni

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Tho whoever above says its bs to call Excalibur a Uk server:

It says UK server when u log in to it right? then it dont matter what time ppl play on the server got cause its still a uk server.

If loads of English dudes, for some weird reason, started to play on a german server it still is a german server =P (as example)
 

flex

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We did this by using plain and simple brute force

True, altho u started @ 2am , in the middle of the night & it still took you 8 hours till you finally took them (on second attempt) @ 9am in the morning


No wonder u are proud of yourself, that was very well played !
 

Balthus

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Guys what is the point in this?I think (myself included) all mids the second the relics went neutral were saying "4FFS HOW WE SPOSED TO DEFEND AGAINST THIS ITS FKIN LAME"
BUT we were also kindly quietly pretty impressed the alarm hadn't gone out and fair play to Aussie for pulling it off a 2nd time (you shit ;))
Now it was a crappy time on a weekday to do it but as stated its a 24/7 game so again fair enuff to Aussie.
Im getting fucked off with these twats crying "alarm clock raid,logout raid" i was in the force Ard gathered very fast at Svas with Shivva a 50 sm and i can tell you it was said there and then that Alb was gonna burn this night no matter how long it took,this was about 0030 while the relics still neutral.We took Renaris in a matter of minutes n stayed there a while repairing and got a guard death spam from around Excal with 102 albs in the area.We had about 60-70 mids at this time so we were still well outnumbered but we took 1 more keep and while taking Burk i think it was the Lord went all screwy an we couldnt hit him.A force of 44 albs i think the numbers were hit Ren an got to the second door,taking down the cs with them.We wiped this force,and I left as it was now about 0400.
Ok if the relics were taken early morning so what,it wasnt an alarm clock raid if the same grp of mids had fought all night was it?You knew we were there and had more than enuff numbers for at least until 3am when another guard spam gave the numbers of 91 in Excal.If you had wanted you caould have prob kicked us out,but kept only sending half your force which got wiped most times.
I think rather than whine this time we should congrat both Aussie and Ard on taking relics,GRATZ both on well done RR's :clap:
 

flex

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& since i can't edit :p

Guards owned us pretty good i must admit to that

& how many were u ? 65 like u said in bg ?


albs weren't that many when we took ur 2 relics
 

Thorwyn

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Midgard discovered a new countertactic to Aussie raids!
Ardamel is personally guarding Mjollner Faste Relic room, heroically defending the relics against albion attackers. Watch this screenshot.... the RR failed btw.

RRaid.jpg
 

Kerith

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at 2am ish when mids were on renaris there was about 250 albs online.. if you really think alb has 1500 people overall nevermind @ 2am u need to be shot
 

Carrera

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Possibly the saddest thing I've seen in a game, can't even go 24 hours without your precious bonus.. Whats the point in taking relics if you just cry and take them back at 7am. I'm not bitter at all, as its just a game, seems some of you don't realise that. I do expect no whines though when we take the relics back whenever we feel like it.
 

Bometal

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Still waiting for L337 Strategy maps and detailed raid information with a tight time schedule from this morning raid...

Cmon, dont keep us waiting...

Always willing to learn something :p

Sod it all tbh, exams and got to study and then stuff like this happens....

Bah :p
 

Skilgannon

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Couldn't give a flying f**k that Mids took relics tbh.

We new they would raid 0600-0900 and so they did. As soon as we got the Relics to pad, Aussie made it clear to everyone that Mids would zerg early-morning and he was proved right. None of the Albs who were on Aussie's raid are gonna get upset. We knew the score and we actually welcomed the morning zerg. It gives us more opportunities to piss you off, and gives our infils some fun with your /20 bots.

I think the key point to come out of last night is how Midgard failed an early morning zerg raid. Superb! That alone made it worthwhile :)
 

Icebreaker

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Stop whining Albs. It was your choice. Like Herbal and Aussie (+ his uber rvr Guilds) said: We don't care anymore. Looks like Mids doesn't care anymore too.

2x lame:

Albs at 2am with their roxxor tactic where noone can do anything

Mids at 5am with no tactics where Albs almost can't do anything (but i must say this wasn't an Alarmclock Raid because they attacked you all the night)

Makes it fair for both sides

QQ more noobs :kissit:
 

Mehuge

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New alb tactics, pull engage raid timed to finish past end of "primetime" so middies is not "allowed" to come get em back! Come raid us at a decent time like at 7.00 cet instead, so we can come spank yo ass at 8.00 cet till bed time.

Apart from the time, some nice alb farming was had. Only label you can give us mids is sad fuks for staying up all night :D
 

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