Who will be the first..

[jakob]

omg sorc got a good unique RA ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

my soj bard/healer with phase shift and zephyr feels so underpowered now (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Difference is that Soj line is available to alb classes too, the sorc RA is not available to any mid or hib classes.

So when your first argument was picked apart due to poor research on your behalf, you proceed to whine about an ability which is available to all realms?

nice, nice...

 

[Coldbeard]

Dont find that rr5 RM ability useful tbh :O

 

[Mavl]

it's quite good when someone from the archer hive starts shooting at you.

 

[Aussie]

Difference is that Soj line is available to alb classes too, the sorc RA is not available to any mid or hib classes.

yes you're right its fair that mid & hib get soj line on their mezzer.

So when your first argument was picked apart due to poor research on your behalf, you proceed to whine about an ability which is available to all realms?

Rune of Utter Agility Active 600 N/A Runemaster gets a 90% chance to evade all melee attacks (regardless of direction) for 15 seconds.

like always its not overpowered in the eyes of the muppet excal mids. there are only 3 RA's that get whined about on VN and thats sorc,runie & healer special RA. but hey you TESTED IT, its not true!! it does not evade 90% and SM pets does not intercept 70% !!

 

[jakob]

yes you're right its fair that mid & hib get soj line on their mezzer.



Rune of Utter Agility Active 600 N/A Runemaster gets a 90% chance to evade all melee attacks (regardless of direction) for 15 seconds.

like always its not overpowered in the eyes of the muppet excal mids. there are only 3 RA's that get whined about on VN and thats sorc,runie & healer special RA. but hey you TESTED IT, its not true!! it does not evade 90% and SM pets does not intercept 70% !!

Actually I didn't. There is no need when so many others have done it. Fact is that Rune of Utter Agility is nowhere near as good as the sorc unique RA, since it currently is suffering from all the things that reduces chances of evade (dualwield, number of attackers etc). Meanwhile the sorc RA works fine regardless of that negating 90% of the dmg you take.

So the fact still stands, sorc RA is ALOT better than rm ability atm.

I sure hope you are joking about ppl whining about the rm ability. Just look at this:
http://vnboards.ign.com/Midgard_Mystic_Professions/b20914/77309627/?22

(yes, I know the test aint extensive enough)

 

[Aussie]

i feel sorry for you all, they gave sorcers some defence ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

 

[Overpowered]

I sent in the form. I have a RR6 Sorch myself, so I really know how strong that class really is. In keepwars and DF sorch is godmode.
If you not RR5 after, lets say, 30 hours of gameplay with Sorch you can consider yourself a very bad player
Its the only class that truly have a I-win-button.. well, a serie of them; MoC + Purge.. at higher RA get MoA for those 0,5 sec lifedrains . MoC 3, Purge 2, WP IIII and Shield of Light.. Press MoC, SoL, AE MEZ LT LT LT LT etc.. purge if stun/mez.. thats my spec and recipy for temporary invincibility in NF

 

[Mavl]

well aussie, first its not "some" actually, its quite alot.

second, i cannot comment on the sorc ra directly, because i do not have a sorcerer on Gorre. But i know that my friend with whom we play there soloed 3 melee + one caster using this RA + moc3. with tanks hitting on him.

third, i do not have a sorcerer, but i do have a runemaster, and i made him to test out his class RA among other things, so i know what i am talking about when i talk about numbers here. The amount of times this ability had saved my ass is little compared to the amoun it didn't. If the amount of evades were solid 90% during these 15 seconds, there would be much, MUCH more whine.

fourth, stop whining.


P.S.
Overpowered, there's no MoA in NF.

 

[jakob]

i feel sorry for you all, they gave sorcers some defence ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

So we can agree that sorc RA > Rm RA?

 

[Mavl]

the future will show

i have no doubt that some countermeasure will be found to most of powerfull RAs when NF hits eu.

 

[Overpowered]

Aye, thats why I didnt add it to teh recipy. I just mentioned what was needed for near godmode pre NF
Givf godmode on Thanes. Or maybe they would be incredible boring to play aswell then . Better SFX though

 

[Mavl]

who needs godmode when you have teh hammers of doom

 

[Aussie]

I sent in the form. I have a RR6 Sorch myself, so I really know how strong that class really is. In keepwars and DF sorch is godmode.
If you not RR5 after, lets say, 30 hours of gameplay with Sorch you can consider yourself a very bad player
Its the only class that truly have a I-win-button.. well, a serie of them; MoC + Purge.. at higher RA get MoA for those 0,5 sec lifedrains . MoC 3, Purge 2, WP IIII and Shield of Light.. Press MoC, SoL, AE MEZ LT LT LT LT etc.. purge if stun/mez.. thats my spec and recipy for temporary invincibility in NF

wow r6 and you can almost spell the name of your class correct , what an achievement m8.

 

[Huntingtons]

i feel sorry for you al

and we all feel sorry for you too (((((((((((((((((((((((((((

 

[Aussie]

((((((((((((((((((((((((((

 

[Framfall]

yes you're right its fair that mid & hib get soj line on their mezzer.



Rune of Utter Agility Active 600 N/A Runemaster gets a 90% chance to evade all melee attacks (regardless of direction) for 15 seconds.

like always its not overpowered in the eyes of the muppet excal mids. there are only 3 RA's that get whined about on VN and thats sorc,runie & healer special RA. but hey you TESTED IT, its not true!! it does not evade 90% and SM pets does not intercept 70% !!

I have SoJ on my Minzer.

I Can mezz.

 

[Overpowered]

wow r6 and you can almost spell the name of your class correct , what an achievement m8.

Yep, with some classes u can have trouble writing your own name but still kill plenty
But serious, why flame. Hope I didnt hurt your feelings or anything like that.

 

[Aussie]

not at all mr "joined at 22 oct and try to look funny"

 

[dwystah]

Its fun how much bullshit u can talk aussie, and we dont even see u in emain anymore mby a few days where u get pwned then u stay away again what happened to the l33t leading sorc?

 

[Elahim]

Debuff nukes.

Oh, and you havent noticed the hib/mid debuff nukes have you?

Try again - what makes cabbys overpowered?

 

[Thecure]

chain stun pet.

 

[poky]

not at all mr "joined at 22 oct and try to look funny"

heh you really are a troll Aussie

 

[Nuked]

aussie owned you all .... you all must be wrong, because aussie says so! so just naff off. SORC IS NOT OVER POWERED. WARDENS AND THANES ARE OK???

 

[Vodkafairy]

Try again - what makes cabbys overpowered?

ability to heal self with moc lifetap, nearsight, ae disease, debuffnuke, recycle pet, stunning pet (regardless of root) make cabbas really strong

 

[Danya]

I sent in the form. I have a RR6 Sorch myself, so I really know how strong that class really is. In keepwars and DF sorch is godmode.
If you not RR5 after, lets say, 30 hours of gameplay with Sorch you can consider yourself a very bad player
Its the only class that truly have a I-win-button.. well, a serie of them; MoC + Purge.. at higher RA get MoA for those 0,5 sec lifedrains . MoC 3, Purge 2, WP IIII and Shield of Light.. Press MoC, SoL, AE MEZ LT LT LT LT etc.. purge if stun/mez.. thats my spec and recipy for temporary invincibility in NF

Pity you don't realise:
The fastest lifetap can be is 1 second and that requires over 400 dex and 10% toa, you won't get that without aug dex 4-5 which I note you didn't include.
It's shield of immunity, not shield of light, and it won't stop you getting 2-3 shotted by a spec nuker before you can react.

From my gorre experience dying to melee is much rarer than getting nuked down which reduces the utility of soi quite a bit. Nice vs stealthers though.

 

[Aloca]

On Gorre with my body spec sorc (not that good lifetap then)
I encounterd 2 fg hibs. I mezz with my low lvl mezz hit moc+rr5 ability and continue to kill 6 of them before i died. Dont know what you think about that but i think it is a bit to overpowerd

 

[Danya]

Lifetap is overpowered - it's too fast for a spell with a secondary effect.
But hitting moc+soi is hardly invincibility.

 

[Dorin]

Oh, and you havent noticed the hib/mid debuff nukes have you?

Try again - what makes cabbys overpowered?

edit: casters who can 2-3 shot from 3fg instead of being useless make whines u c :>
about sorc ra,,, mmm fooking nuke sorc to pieces and forget about tanks? :worthy:

 

[Karmona]

Make mercs St class , if u dont know sorcs have cloth ^^ bard have skale n healers chain so wots the problem whit the rr5 Ra? Ohh i forget in nf wont have gp :< but dont qq for that just re roll to alb.

 

[Danya]

So far tried sorc and mentalist on gorre, still prefer mentalist (<3 stun).