Who set me the photo challenge?

[Sparx]

i agree, i went through the stage of one night stands all the time, was fantastic means i've slept with so many women. But now i'm not so interested in it, dont have the urge as much anymore.

Apart from this one girl who drives me mad cause she knows how to play me so well (

)

 

[old.Tohtori]

A lot of good points, though some misconceptions and generalisations too, there Calaen.

But the time when everything feels so right, the slightest touch sends shiver running around your body.

You do not get this from a one night stand

Disagree there mainly.

You can get that, actually easily, if you happen to just..click?

 

[Sharma]

Personally for me, I just prefer having fun, relationships as I see it, don't constitute fun.

Relationships place far too many restrictions on myself and I really don't want to have to go from being myself (Far too concerned with living it up atm) to being a one woman man.

Women are far too much hassle and too much of a headache to bother with atm.

I'd rather be wasted and having a laugh and lots of bed fun with girls I hardly know than coming back to the same body week after week.


I get bored too easily.

 

[Calaen]

A lot of good points, though some misconceptions and generalisations too, there Calaen.



Disagree there mainly.

You can get that, actually easily, if you happen to just..click?

Dont understand your final point.

Also no misconceptions or generalisations ,the things I have said are based on me experiencing them. Yes you can get a buzz from a one night stand the diefference is a buzz from having sex with a random rather than making love to someone you know how to please at any moment.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Dont understand your final point.

Also no misconceptions or generalisations ,the things I have said are based on me experiencing them. Yes you can get a buzz from a one night stand the diefference is a buzz from having sex with a random rather than making love to someone you know how to please at any moment.

The final point was that you can get that same feeling from a one night stand, that you get from a longer sexual relationship.

Sometimes two people just work so well together.

 

[Calaen]

The final point was that you can get that same feeling from a one night stand, that you get from a longer sexual relationship.

Sometimes two people just work so well together.

Ah right, to a certain extent I agree but no one can know just where to touch you to make your squirm, unless you have been with them before/explained it all beforehand.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Ah right, to a certain extent I agree but no one can know just where to touch you to make your squirm, unless you have been with them before/explained it all beforehand.

Actually, this is from a personal experience, i had one "one night stand"(did hook up later again) that was just like it, both ways.

It's something that happens very rarely though and in general, you are right ofcourse that over time it gets better.

 

[tris-]

Bet you haven't heard this:

Well if all is predetermined, then you wouldn't have to write "no bull about predetermined", because it would happen/not happen anyway

well that doesnt really make sense. i dont have to do anything, but what i do is what im meant to be doing through a chain of cause and effect. then what ever ive done is a cause which triggers another effect, like you typed that reply, and the effect of your reply is me typing this explaination.

Disagree there mainly.

You can get that, actually easily, if you happen to just..click?

agree also. one night i recall, in bed the girl dived on me and only the kissing sent shockwaves through me. i think sometimes it can be good enough to make you think WTF!

i say "only the kissing" as in usually kissing is lower down the scale of fun than sex, but this time it was as good as.

 

[old.Tohtori]

well that doesnt really make sense. i dont have to do anything, but what i do is what im meant to be doing through a chain of cause and effect. then what ever ive done is a cause which triggers another effect, like you typed that reply, and the effect of your reply is me typing this explaination.

Ah but that's a cop-out to what i said. If you really thought you didn't want any bull about predetermination, you wouldn't have to say it 'cause it would happen regardless and since you believe in predetermination, you obviously wouldn't need to say what you did unless you thought you could effect any comments on predetermination

 

[tris-]

you seem to have a differing view about what predeterminism is.

what your saying, to me, doesnt make sense within the context of how i percieve predeterminism.

to me, its simply that every action has already been determined and free will is an illusion created by the process. regardless of what i say, like the above post. i think what youre trying to imply is i thought i should type that to effect the responses i get. i typed it because i did and what ever i did at that time was already determined.
this is believe is were the illusion of free will comes in. because we are doing something at a particular moment, we think weve decided our selves that we should be doing it. taking a bite of food or scratching your foot. sure you could NOT do those things or you COULD do those things, but which ever it is you did was because it should of happened.

i realise there maybe a flaw to it, in someones oppinion, and it belittles events like the holocaust down to a "it happened because it was supposed to" type of thing, but hey ho. i didnt design the universe ffs

 

[old.Tohtori]

you seem to hav*snip*e universe ffs

Actually we do have the same view on what predetermination is, but i was more speaking towards you negating it with the knowledge of it.

REALLY hard to explain...i'll have a smoke and try to put it right in my head first.

 

[tris-]

ive had a 'smoke' and think i see what you mean. something like - im trying to determine my predetermined path or something?

 

[old.Tohtori]

ive had a 'smoke' and think i see what you mean. something like - im trying to determine my predetermined path or something?

Well, kinda, yeah.

By saying "not to talk about predetermination" you actually tried to effect a predetermined path to go into a discussion of predetermination, which would've happened(possibly) without the mention of predetermination.

Which in effect, lead to a discussion about predetermination. Now if you did(not saying you don't or it's not possible) believe in predetermination, you would've known that if you wrote that, it wouldn't stop the discussion from going to predetermination, but might infact lead towards it, in effect leading away from a predetermined path.

NOW, if it was predetermined that by talking about predetermination, you didn't effect the predetermined path, but infact just followed the path, by trying not to go into the predetermined discussion...is a possibility, but as such, rather odd way of predetermination to work as it undermines predetermination slightly.

 

[tris-]

NOW, if it was predetermined that by talking about predetermination, you didn't effect the predetermined path, but infact just followed the path

i typed it just because i did, didnt intend one way or another for it to start a discussion.

i believe this bit.

 

[old.Tohtori]

i typed it just because i did, didnt intend one way or another for it to start a discussion.

i believe this bit.

Like i said, makes it a bit odd predetermined route, as by you saying it, it causes it to slightly negate itself.

Basically you did acknowledge predetermined way of things and try to effect it.

 

[tris-]

no i didnt try to affect anything, i just did what i did.

your view is different to mine.

All conceptions of an ordered or rational cosmos have determinist implications, as a logical consequence of the idea of predictability.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes yes, i'm not trying to convert you or anything. But a little more "discussion" would be nice. Why how when what where. I dunno.

We can drop it as me saying things and you repeating that won't make heads or tails.

 

[Chronictank]

no i didnt try to affect anything, i just did what i did.

so your saying the future is pre-determined but by the choices we have already made of our own free will?

 

[Sharma]

Wow, I think this topic sort of de-railed and took two flights across russia and japan and sort of landed arse over tit in California.

 

[Kagato]

Honestly, i've never understand why guys get so worked up about lesbo's and girls kissing each other.

Whats the attraction ? Never done anything for me to be honest, I mean for gods sake, theres enough competition for trying to pull hot girls as it is, without having to compete with other girls for the action too!

 

[Lamp]

sparx you got a bigger version of the 2 bitches kissing?

 

[Overdriven]

You know "bitches" are female dogs? So I'm pretty sure the cat on the right doesn't count

 

[Lamp]

Inside every cat, there's a puppy trying to get out.

 

[brad]

yeah but if they turned up at your house half naked and wanted a shag, noway you would turn them down. I think they look quite fit if you look deeper. Noway I would turn them down, infact not sure I would turn anything down lol...

Amphrax/Arauddry

Amp's dog barked at him one day and he thought it said he was preety........poor dog. Amp ur sick!!

 

[Huntingtons]

The final point was that you can get that same feeling from a one night stand, that you get from a longer sexual relationship.

Sometimes two people just work so well together.

people that work so well together will hardly be a one night stand tho? dunno havnt tried so cant comment - just a thought

and about determinism and tris-
he just typed it because he did - it was predetermined so it doesnt really matter why he typed it, he just had to (maybe it was for you to ask a question he could reply to, or just to annoy you coz cosmos hate you as much as everybody else! HAHA!)

 

[old.Tohtori]

people that work so well together will hardly be a one night stand tho? dunno havnt tried so cant comment - just a thought

Well it starts with a one night stand, and i was referring to that feeling. We did, as said, hook up later for more, but it never worked in any other way.

 

[noblok]

I feel sorry for you and I do not mean this in a way of sounding disrespectful/patronising.

Having someone to share your life and experiences is a wonderful thing it really is. The good times and bad times are all better of being shared, finding someone that you can do his with is worth the search. Yes you might have a few bad ones first but its all part of gaining experience.

No need to feel sorry. As I said: I'm a stoic, I'm not bothered by it. Obviously I'd prefer to have a girlfriend, but I'm perfectly comfortable without one. Also if I'd ever have one, I probably wouldn't be heartbroken if I lost her. As a stoic I prefer certain 'states of being' (health to sickness, life to death, girlfriend to no girlfriend), but it's really all indifferent with regards to my happiness. What matters is living a moral life, which is why I believe I'd have no problem turning down a one-night-stand on moral grounds.

To nuance my earlier post: I have moral problems with one-night-stands purely for the physical aspect. I have no problem with a "love of one night" (such as I assume Tohtori's was). I'm just not capable of such love (as a stoic I ban all emotions), so one-night-stands are a no-go for me.

 

[Olgaline]

Honestly, i've never understand why guys get so worked up about lesbo's and girls kissing each other.

Whats the attraction ? Never done anything for me to be honest, I mean for gods sake, theres enough competition for trying to pull hot girls as it is, without having to compete with other girls for the action too!

it's got to do with the male set of mind.

you see no matter how lesbian they may be, a guy will not admit to him self that it's out of reach, and he view it as a warmup to something more,
Or! it's the oposite and it's that fact that it is Unataineble that gets him turned on, either way....

hmm..dono if I explained that right ?

 

[Lamp]

Two types of lesbian.
(1) Real life
(2) Fantasy / internet porn

I've had 2 threesomes. The first was when I got pulled (totally unexpectedly !!) by two bisexual chicks who fucked and blew me in the ladies toilets of a club (long story), and the second was with two call girls (who went down on each other before giving me an hour of pure unadultered pleasure). I heartily recommend it

 

[Kagato]

Two types of lesbian.
(1) Real life
(2) Fantasy / internet porn

I've had 2 threesomes. The first was when I got pulled (totally unexpectedly !!) by two bisexual chicks who fucked and blew me in the ladies toilets of a club (long story), and the second was with two call girls (who went down on each other before giving me an hour of pure unadultered pleasure). I heartily recommend it

I've been swinging for 7 years and honestly, the two chick thing is over-rated apart from having the extra eye-candy in the room.