White Flag

[Nicci]

If you wanna raid at that hour I dont mind, but dont claim its primetime, cause its not.

imho, there is no way to ever solve the argument wether a certain time is *primetime* or not.
And thats just for the reason that primetime has no set definition, but is different to everyone who plays this game

 

[Gordonax]

Or raise you higher by claiming its primetime. I havent whined at those engageraids tho, I have only argued with the people claiming they have been primetime. If you wanna raid at that hour I dont mind, but dont claim its primetime, cause its not.

The problem I have with alarmclock raids isn't the time: it's the unevenness. When you raid at 1am with 50 people, and there's enough Mids/Hibs/Albs online to defend, I think that's fair enough. If you raid at 4am with 50 people, and there's enough enemies on to defend, again, I have no problem. However, when you set your alarmclocks and raid with 200 people at a time when you know there's probably about 50 enemies online, I think that's different. Of course, if all you care about is the end result, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

 

[noaim]

The problem I have with alarmclock raids isn't the time: it's the unevenness. When you raid at 1am with 50 people, and there's enough Mids/Hibs/Albs online to defend, I think that's fair enough. If you raid at 4am with 50 people, and there's enough enemies on to defend, again, I have no problem. However, when you set your alarmclocks and raid with 200 people at a time when you know there's probably about 50 enemies online, I think that's different. Of course, if all you care about is the end result, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

I just think it should be a fight. I dont care if its 50 albs raiding npc´s when its 200 mids online, or 200 mids raiding npc´s when its 50 albs online. Both raids are done to totally avoid any kind of fight, and those RR´s just plain suck. It should be harder to take relics without grabbing keeps, and easier if you do grab keeps. I think the system implemented in NF sounds very promising, can only hope it works as well as it looks.

 

[Flimgoblin]

I just think it should be a fight. I dont care if its 50 albs raiding npc´s when its 200 mids online, or 200 mids raiding npc´s when its 50 albs online. Both raids are done to totally avoid any kind of fight, and those RR´s just plain suck. It should be harder to take relics without grabbing keeps, and easier if you do grab keeps. I think the system implemented in NF sounds very promising, can only hope it works as well as it looks.

agreed..

though one point - 50 raiding when 200 are online _can_ be stopped if they're spotted.

200 raiding when 50 are online can't ...

So the first raid gives your opponent a tiny tiny chance to fight back the other gives them 0.

 

[Gordonax]

I just think it should be a fight. I dont care if its 50 albs raiding npc´s when its 200 mids online, or 200 mids raiding npc´s when its 50 albs online. Both raids are done to totally avoid any kind of fight, and those RR´s just plain suck.

I think if you think up some new tactic that means you can avoid a fight, it's ok - as long as it's tough to achieve. If it's something that can be done by any old random group with precisely zero thought or planning, then you're completely right. Is the tactic used by Aussie in that category? I don't know, I'd like to try it myself and see

It should be harder to take relics without grabbing keeps, and easier if you do grab keeps. I think the system implemented in NF sounds very promising, can only hope it works as well as it looks.

Yes. Completely agree.

 

[Tay]

-- Crop --

Me and Elfslayer were the only two Albs inside Excalibur when the doors fell and you snatched the relics, and it was a sad day indeed.

By your reasoning, I could arrange a relic raid where we took Dun Crauchon at 6 pm during the day and then attacked Dun Dagda at 4 am during the night and as long as we still held Dun Crauchon I could call it a primetime raid? Get real.

I think you'll find I was there too, my Arms and cleric in the relic room, my Infil had already died outside to the conqouring hoards, I released her and got my Arms on inside the relic room with my cleric for what it was worth, then NP came storming in, I released my cleric and left my Arms dead in the tower when they took the first relic.

I got my Matter cabi on (lvl44 I think) and gathered a number of lvl30-50 chars to try to stop the rest going but the Mids had the road to xcal covered to kill the small number that were there, we went to HW then and met the Mids at MMG and got wiped.

 

[Generation]

imho, there is no way to ever solve the argument wether a certain time is *primetime* or not.
And thats just for the reason that primetime has no set definition, but is different to everyone who plays this game

How about taking the average server population over a 24 hr time period, whenever the number of players on the server is above that figure, it's primetime

 

[katt!]

imho, there is no way to ever solve the argument wether a certain time is *primetime* or not.
And thats just for the reason that primetime has no set definition, but is different to everyone who plays this game

I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BE MORE WRONG EVEN IF YOU TRIED HARDER!

 

[Ilienwyn]

not really we just alarm them back and u can cry 30 pages here again.

well, wonder who is teh gimp at RRs then

 

[Belomar]

I think you'll find I was there too, my Arms and cleric in the relic room

Ahh, all right. I stand corrected. I just remember cowering in the relic room as the doors were bashed down, and Elfslayer getting off a last defiant AoE DoT on the charging hordes (he was matter then).

 

[Minstrel]

Uff, seriously....you guys know this is a game right?

Omg really its just a game? :eek2: nerf u shouldnt tell

 

[Moo]

If macroing is sticking a coin down the back of number 1 key, to keep it casting shrooms.
Which I doubt.

its afk play thus breaks the coc

is that a confession ?

 

[Belomar]

They better go ban fins group then

Well, if it is indeed a whole group of afk people exping there nowadays (I've approached it briefly on Prydwen and almost lagged out due to the shroom lag), then yes, someone should go there and report every single one who behaves suspiciously. It sickens me to learn about afk-exping procedures like this--all forms of PL in Albion and Midgard at least requires actively played characters.

 

[Calo]

You come here trying to claim Mids are in some way superior, I'll continue to point that that, without Ardamel to lead you, you couldn't take back the relics primetime. Understand?

i never claimed that we are superior .. we are totally not, but ur just full of hate so well i can understand it :wub:

but like someone said , i hope nf wil change all those rr's and it will be fun again for both of us

 

[Xanthian]

its afk play thus breaks the coc

is that a confession ?

Who mentioned being afk?
I said I jam keys down so i dont have to repeadly press it, makes killing dragon much less stressfull.
Go troll else where random alb noob zerglet #534536

 

[Fluid]

Well, if it is indeed a whole group of afk people exping there nowadays (I've approached it briefly on Prydwen and almost lagged out due to the shroom lag), then yes, someone should go there and report every single one who behaves suspiciously. It sickens me to learn about afk-exping procedures like this--all forms of PL in Albion and Midgard at least requires actively played characters.

wrong, absoloutly totally wrong, i have personally seen a macro for exping at white lights from a person who plays on US servers

 

[Ghostly]

I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BE MORE WRONG EVEN IF YOU TRIED HARDER!

Wow, typing in caps must make you right

 

[Nicci]

I DON'T THINK YOU COULD BE MORE WRONG EVEN IF YOU TRIED HARDER!

You really got me there, must have been the awesome arguement you used... oh wait... you had none
Care to explain why you think I am wrong, or are you just trolling?

How about taking the average server population over a 24 hr time period, whenever the number of players on the server is above that figure, it's primetime

That would be a good way to handle it, but the problem is the difference of players in the weekend and on weekdays I guess (or with special hollidays, different timezones, etc )

 

[Konah]

tick.. tock..

 

[Leel]

Well, forest pulling fins is a bit overpowered tbh, you got fop drood, afk with coin on fop key, you got 1-3 animists afk with shroom key stuck down, although 1-2 anis can be pbaoe. Then to stop pulling, you just go put ANY char ON the spawn, it will instantly stop respawn. This way you don't have to get the animists to stop spamming shrooms to stop pulling! Yes I believe it should be nerfed, even though it's good cash.

 

[Garnet]

So if alb took the relics primetime the old way with a zerg, will mids take them back at 7 am like with Herbals relic raid?

 

[Netcode]

I hope not.

 

[fatcat]

You really got me there, must have been the awesome arguement you used... oh wait... you had none
Care to explain why you think I am wrong, or are you just trolling?

it's not like he needs one, it's simply idiotic to believe that a definition doesn't define something. the word primetime has been borrowed from television, and implies that it's the hours of the day that has the largest audience. so if i.e. excalibur has 2500 players playing, 7 p.m. - 21 p.m. and less on the other hours of the day, then that's what we call primetime on excalibur. it doesn't matter if you think 4 p.m. is the best time of the day to play daoc or whatever, 7 p.m. - 21 p.m. is still THE primetime of the server.

 

[katt!]

You really got me there, must have been the awesome arguement you used... oh wait... you had none

Why would I need an argument to laugh at some dumbfuck redefining "primetime".

 

[Fluid]

Well, forest pulling fins is a bit overpowered tbh, you got fop drood, afk with coin on fop key, you got 1-3 animists afk with shroom key stuck down, although 1-2 anis can be pbaoe. Then to stop pulling, you just go put ANY char ON the spawn, it will instantly stop respawn. This way you don't have to get the animists to stop spamming shrooms to stop pulling! Yes I believe it should be nerfed, even though it's good cash.

wrong, putting a person in the spawn no longer stops spawn, it just leads to them lying dead :>

 

[Belomar]

Yes I believe it should be nerfed, even though it's good cash.

Not only nerfed, but the involved players should be banned--afk-exping (or money farming) is simply not acceptable.

 

[Xanthian]

Not only nerfed, but the involved players should be banned--afk-exping (or money farming) is simply not acceptable.

This would be perfectly acceptable is Albs could do it though?

 

[Asha]

Although Albs can't go that far, they can go pretty close. Have seen some very advanced macros. Saw a BD doing it once, but I don't think he needed any coins or macros. Just agressive pets in zone with neutral green mobs...

Wasn't this thread about rrs ?

 

[Aussie]

and I'd like to add that ladonna already stated he didnt give a shit if albs raided primetime again.
means I don't give a shit about your relicdoors either.
BANG BANG on mjollner doors

 

[Fluid]

Not only nerfed, but the involved players should be banned--afk-exping (or money farming) is simply not acceptable.

can u point me to where its not possible in the coc? i know many people who afk when playing, maybe all players who afk for 2mins in exp grps should be banned as they are doing the same thing? hell most wardens exped to 50 afk with pbt on, its not a new concept