White Flag

[Gordonax]

Uff, seriously....you guys know this is a game right?

It's weird, isn't it? I don't get angry about anything that Mids do. I post reminding them about the alarmclock raid stuff because so many Mids come here and try to play the "moral high ground" card, and I think it's hilarious - and you just HAVE to remind them that it ain't so. But angry about it? Comparing abusing a bug in a game to nailing someone's dog up? Erm, no. If I felt like that I'd check myself in to the nearest hospital.

 

[Tay]

Uff, seriously....you guys know this is a game right?

Everybody knows its a game, but some people take it a little too seriously...

Apparently somebody told the MIDS they would get a bigger E-Penis if they had the relics..they were desperate for them it seemed

 

[Tay]

Yes, necros.

Imagine you had a dog. It was your favorite pet.
One day someone came and cut your dog with his knife and then used hammer and nails to attach it to the wall in your room.
Some time passed and now you have another dog pet.
This guy who cut your first one now admires your new one. He feeds it, walks with it and brushes its hair.

what do think about such person ?

OMG seek help.

 

[Nalistah]

ihihi.... great idea tbfh

 

[Thorwyn]

Imagine you had a dog. It was your favorite pet.
One day someone came and cut your dog with his knife and then used hammer and nails to attach it to the wall in your room.
Some time passed and now you have another dog pet.
This guy who cut your first one now admires your new one. He feeds it, walks with it and brushes its hair.

ROFLMAO!!!!!

 

[noaim]

The thing with analogies is that they have to have some kind of connection to the situation they're analogous with. In this case, there's no connection.

If you really feel the kind of hatred that you would feel in the above case against the entire realm of Albion for a tiny number of idiots bug abusing *once*, then - and I'm totally serious about this - you should get some councilling, because you're investing far, far too much in the game.

By the same logic, we should never have stopped alarmclock raiding you in the first place - something that we didn't do for many, many months (and neither did you or the Hibs to anyone else).

I think he is trying to say that just because your last raid was primetime, that does not make you some kind of honorable angels, read the RR-history etc. Could have used a better way to put it tho

And read the boards, do you see any albs whining about animists? Yes, so do I. How many times have they actually TAKEN a relic using animists? Yes, once. Are animists bugged? Not by definition I´d say, even if I doubt the are working as mythic intended them to

By alb definition, Ardamels raid when he retook str first was primetime, since the raid started the night before. You rewarded that by taking them in early morning. Then, after an era of pingpong you took relics primetime, we took em back early, and you whine. If you look back however, you see that neither albs or mids are in any position to whine about earlymorning rr´s, we are just as bad as eachother in that aspect. We have taken relics primetime that you have taken back early morning, and other way around. Its like football. Someone in your team tackle someone from the other team and its nothing. Someone from the other team tackle someone in your team, and he should get a red card right away. And this is a forum, not a game.

 

[Angara]

Everybody knows its a game, but some people take it a little too seriously...

Apparently somebody told the MIDS they would get a bigger E-Penis if they had the relics..they were desperate for them it seemed

Ah, ur one of those guys who forgot this is a game

 

[old.Sko]

I feel that relic raid is only an excuse to make a very long thread by board spammers

Peace love etc =D

 

[Angara]

It's weird, isn't it? I don't get angry about anything that Mids do. I post reminding them about the alarmclock raid stuff because so many Mids come here and try to play the "moral high ground" card, and I think it's hilarious - and you just HAVE to remind them that it ain't so. But angry about it? Comparing abusing a bug in a game to nailing someone's dog up? Erm, no. If I felt like that I'd check myself in to the nearest hospital.

Sounds like u need a break?

 

[Tay]

Ah, ur one of those guys who forgot this is a game

Nope, because I have a very large E-Penis.

And work is feckin boring at the moment.

 

[Tay]

I feel that relic raid is only an excuse to make a very long thread by board spammers

Peace love etc =D

ffs somebody had to blow it.

There is always somebody...pfft, I bet youre the guy that ALWAYS says "turn the bloody pulse messages off" during lotto

 

[Gordonax]

Sounds like u need a break?

Exactly the opposite: I've been moving house, so I've missed all the relic raids

AND I'LL KILL ANYONE WHO SAYS I NEED TO CONTROL MY ANGER, MMMKAY?????

 

[Herjulf]

Funny how you keep changing the numbers Justin....

numbers as told by aussie himself.
and 0200 gmt = 0300 cet where the majority(?) of mid/excal resides.

 

[Gordonax]

numbers as told by aussie himself.
and 0200 gmt = 0300 cet where the majority(?) of mid/excal resides.

Actually if you look here you'll find it was 1am BST/2am CET, according to Aussie. Strictly speaking that's 12pm GMT, with it being summer time and all

 

[Amadon]

Uff, seriously....you guys know this is a game right?

STOP THE LIES!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dawn]

who smited pbuck yesterday

 

[Gordonax]

I think he is trying to say that just because your last raid was primetime, that does not make you some kind of honorable angels, read the RR-history etc. Could have used a better way to put it tho

Just a bit, yeah

And read the boards, do you see any albs whining about animists? Yes, so do I. How many times have they actually TAKEN a relic using animists? Yes, once. Are animists bugged? Not by definition I´d say, even if I doubt the are working as mythic intended them to

No, I'd agree with you. You won't see me complaining about using animists in that way, because I think it's perfectly fair. I certainly don't think you can consistently thing that an engage raid is fair, but animists somehow unfair - you use the tools you have available to you.

By alb definition, Ardamels raid when he retook str first was primetime, since the raid started the night before.

Yep, I have no problem with that raid, or any other one which starts early enough for people to defend. To me, it's the start time that matters - start early and people have the chance to kick your ass out of their frontier.

You rewarded that by taking them in early morning. Then, after an era of pingpong you took relics primetime, we took em back early, and you whine.

Now I'm a bit lost. When was this? Is this ages ago or recently?

If you look back however, you see that neither albs or mids are in any position to whine about earlymorning rr´s, we are just as bad as eachother in that aspect.

Now that's where I disagree with you, because the fact is that after a period of alarmclock raiding from all sides, all sides stopped doing it and concentrated only on primetime raids. 'twas the Mids - or rather Ladonna and the 200-300 eedjuts who followed him - that decided that after TWO failed relic raids and just a few weeks without them, they would do an alarm clock raid. Alb had gone for months without them and stayed primetime only.

So while I agree with you that all realms have done questionable things in the past, I'll always be happy to remind you that it was Mids who were so inept at primetime raiding (without Ardamel) that they *had* to resort to an alarmclock

 

[noaim]

I could be wrong, but I think that after the morningraid on Hibs, mids took back str-relics from albs by holding keeps in your frontier over night. This is what I mean with started the day before, and as we both know, albs were v lazy with retaking then. Loads of albs said it was an alarmclock raid tho, and relics were taken back early a saturday morning. So starting with us doing a, again by your (albs) own definition, primetimetime raid on you, you took relics back with a morningraid. While I understand the frustration in doing a v nice primetimeraid, then 2 weeks later losing the relics to an alarmclock raid, lets not raise albs higher than they deserve.

Personally I think relicraids should involve fighting, and both Ardamels last primetimeraids gave plenty of room for fighting, even if hibs did chose not to defend on the last one, they had about 24 hours to do so. So in my very biased pov, Ardamel plans the best raids, for everyones enjoyment.

 

[Belomar]

This is what I mean with started the day before, and as we both know, albs were v lazy with retaking then. Loads of albs said it was an alarmclock raid tho, and relics were taken back early a saturday morning. So starting with us doing a, again by your (albs) own definition, primetimetime raid on you, you took relics back with a morningraid.

You will get away with calling that raid (Ardamel's first strength relic raid and rise to infamy in Albion) a primetime raid over my dead body. You held keeps, but it is not as if you defended them throughout the night--Albs could not be bothered to go back again at around midnight that evening, and thus you Mids were left to your own devices (getting to bed early and setting your alarm clocks, etc, etc). I know, because I was up during the night before, ferrying my minstrel to Excalibur in preparation of a possible raid (my Cabalist, matter and thus an AoE DoT:er at the time, was left in SI since we had just gotten the expansion, something I still regret), as well as the morning after in time to log him in and watch the doors go down. Me and Elfslayer were the only two Albs inside Excalibur when the doors fell and you snatched the relics, and it was a sad day indeed.

By your reasoning, I could arrange a relic raid where we took Dun Crauchon at 6 pm during the day and then attacked Dun Dagda at 4 am during the night and as long as we still held Dun Crauchon I could call it a primetime raid? Get real.

 

[Calo]

The thing with analogies is that they have to have some kind of connection to the situation they're analogous with. In this case, there's no connection.

If you really feel the kind of hatred that you would feel in the above case against the entire realm of Albion for a tiny number of idiots bug abusing *once*, then - and I'm totally serious about this - you should get some councilling, because you're investing far, far too much in the game.

By the same logic, we should never have stopped alarmclock raiding you in the first place - something that we didn't do for many, many months (and neither did you or the Hibs to anyone else).

u guys whine after almost 1 year still about that alarm clock raid and u come claiming here the he needs some councilling?? i think its who goes up WAY to much up in those rr's etc

 

[kirennia]

u guys whine after almost 1 year still about that alarm clock raid and u come claiming here the he needs some councilling?? i think its who goes up WAY to much up in those rr's etc

you think some1 who plays the game too often but is still quite sane needs more councilling then some1 relating one aspect of the game to nailing a dog to a cross because they think it's a simily?

 

[Ilienwyn]

It's so funny how "definitions" keep change with every RR depending who did it and who gives the definitions.


Btw, if we take relics now, whatever way we use, you are sure you won't find another lame excuse to do alarm clock raid? E.g.: despite your relic guard bots we zerg you or engage the guards again. I am sure you will find a good excuse again...

 

[Gordonax]

u guys whine after almost 1 year still about that alarm clock raid and u come claiming here the he needs some councilling?? i think its who goes up WAY to much up in those rr's etc

You come here trying to claim Mids are in some way superior, I'll continue to point that that, without Ardamel to lead you, you couldn't take back the relics primetime. Understand?

 

[Calo]

It's so funny how "definitions" keep change with every RR depending who did it and who gives the definitions.


Btw, if we take relics now, whatever way we use, you are sure you won't find another lame excuse to do alarm clock raid? E.g.: despite your relic guard bots we zerg you or engage the guards again. I am sure you will find a good excuse again...

not really we just alarm them back and u can cry 30 pages here again.

 

[Flimgoblin]

So starting with us doing a, again by your (albs) own definition, primetimetime raid on you, you took relics back with a morningraid. While I understand the frustration in doing a v nice primetimeraid, then 2 weeks later losing the relics to an alarmclock raid, lets not raise albs higher than they deserve.

Pretty sure the plan that ardamel posted for that raid involved logging in and taking the keeps anyway just saved him a little time.

 

[Sohan_thc]

Look it from the bright side

We albs got used to the fact we aint got reclics and so we do not benefit of the +str or +magic but we survive against those who have +30

WE only can get better when we aqtualy have them , hmm seems that the comming relic reset with frontiers gives albs a nice present in effectife dmg

other realms have to see how they even get to their old dmg level let alone grow over it.

yeah i see light @ end of tunnel

ofc any attempt in the meanwhile is worth trying tho. Cause it is fun.
It gives so much good stuff to read about when you are @ work after it.

 

[Chrstffr]

Same sh*t, different name. This will get you into equally as much trouble if it is detected by GOA.

They better go ban fins group then

 

[Aybabtu]

While I understand the frustration in doing a v nice primetimeraid, then 2 weeks later losing the relics to an alarmclock raid, lets not raise albs higher than they deserve.

Then don't bring us lower by claiming 1am BST (2amCET) is a morning raid!

 

[noaim]

By your reasoning, I could arrange a relic raid where we took Dun Crauchon at 6 pm during the day and then attacked Dun Dagda at 4 am during the night and as long as we still held Dun Crauchon I could call it a primetime raid? Get real.

Now I think we go CS up, so it wasnt Benowyc we had, I believe it was Renaris. Comparing Renaris to Crauchon...sure, your choice, I wouldnt tho. Comparing 11am to 4am...sure, your choice, I wouldnt tho.

Now I know you think albion is the brighest shining star of them all etc, but face it, you had a chance to defend at primetime, you were lazy as wet socks back then so you didnt, and when you lost relics, you blamed alarmclocks and took em back at 9am a saturday by zerging relickeep with 200+ people.

 

[noaim]

Then don't bring us lower by claiming 1am BST (2amCET) is a morning raid!

Or raise you higher by claiming its primetime. I havent whined at those engageraids tho, I have only argued with the people claiming they have been primetime. If you wanna raid at that hour I dont mind, but dont claim its primetime, cause its not.