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drummer

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Spent 6 hours on a galla raid yesterday and than lost lottoing for a Phosphorescent bracer versus 1 person which left me with 5 pts


not a whine about the organisation or the point system , just very pissed :(
 
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Xray

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Yeah i lost a lotto once. Least you didn't get cheated by the person that won and the raid organiser.
 
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boomeruk

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dont worry too much mate

i lost 6/6 of my rolls on my TG raids on mid.... always ended up with left over kak or modifiers

then i respecced and went and farmed tg with a small group and got all the stuff i needed and had much more fun doing it :)
 
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old.Nol

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OI!! MILK AND COOKIES IS MY JOB SO FOAD!!!1!oneone
 
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Ravenbourne

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Originally posted by Xray
Yeah i lost a lotto once. Least you didn't get cheated by the person that won and the raid organiser.
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Who was that?
 
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VodkaFairy

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Since we're busy whining anyway, I lost 26 of 28 galla lotto's now.. so pah :p

Oo and points stripped cos I got leftovers sometime =)
 
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angara-ffs

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I lost my dog :(
I feel sad irl.....can i whine here about it? :p
 
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oblivion_6

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he said ur ghey sadd beat him up

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

UGGGGIIEE UGGGIIEEE UGGIIE UG UG UG

(who the fuck thought up of the above playground chant btw)
 
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Xray

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Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
do tell :]
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Remember when Saadyst used to run FFA Raids? And the rule was only lvl 50 can lotto for lvl 51 (MP) drops.

First Dragon Raid (sucessful) a Druid/Warden Hauberk dropped. I think there were four or five of us who lotto'ed. Anyway i made myself unpopular in the lotto CG by not doing my /random imediately, coz i wanted to know why an NS and a Champ were in the CG. The NS was lotto'ing for someone that had to log (fair enough). And the Champ (Fest) was lotto'ing for his Druid, whom he had left be the forge because he couldn't be bothered to bring her all the way to DL for the lotto (sounded a bit odd to me, but what the hell).

Anyway i came a close 2nd in the lotto. I wasn't that bothered, i've never won anything in a lotto, so this was no different.

The next day Hibs had DF and i was playing my lvl 49 Eldy. I bumped into Festimare and to my surprise she conned yellow to me. I did a /who Fest : no matches. So i asked her what lvl she was : 49. Then i asked her if she thought it was fair for a lvl 49 to lotto for lvl 51 items, when the Raid Rules say that only lvl 50 can lotto. I don't remember her reply but i don't think it was very nice.

So i PM'ed Saadyst to try and sort things out. We had a long discussion. He was very patient and at all times polite. But he would not budge and could see nothing wrong with allowing a lvl 49 to lotto, despite his own rules stating only lvl 50 can. (btw at this time both Fest and Saad were in LA: purely coincidental i'm sure).

I probably wouldn't have minded if i'd been told at the lotto that Fest's Druid was only lvl 49. But the thing that annoyed me most was the underhand way that he entered the lotto: make Druid anon, log lvl 50 main, do lotto with lvl 50.

I think it's fair to say that everyone who entered that lotto was cheated by Saadyst's rules. After all if the rules say that only lvl 50 can lotto then surely that means that lvl 49 can not lotto.

But i remember when i was complaining about how i had been cheated in /os and the discussion briefly spilled over into /as, someone said "oh but Fest has done so much for the Realm", so i guess if u are L33T enough it's ok to cheat.

I'm not saying that Saadyst hasn't done a lot for the Realm, coz if i did then i'd be a liar too.
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by Xray
Remember when Saadyst used to run FFA Raids? And the rule was only lvl 50 can lotto for lvl 51 (MP) drops.

First Dragon Raid (sucessful) a Druid/Warden Hauberk dropped. I think there were four or five of us who lotto'ed. Anyway i made myself unpopular in the lotto CG by not doing my /random imediately, coz i wanted to know why an NS and a Champ were in the CG. The NS was lotto'ing for someone that had to log (fair enough). And the Champ (Fest) was lotto'ing for his Druid, whom he had left be the forge because he couldn't be bothered to bring her all the way to DL for the lotto (sounded a bit odd to me, but what the hell).

Anyway i came a close 2nd in the lotto. I wasn't that bothered, i've never won anything in a lotto, so this was no different.

The next day Hibs had DF and i was playing my lvl 49 Eldy. I bumped into Festimare and to my surprise she conned yellow to me. I did a /who Fest : no matches. So i asked her what lvl she was : 49. Then i asked her if she thought it was fair for a lvl 49 to lotto for lvl 51 items, when the Raid Rules say that only lvl 50 can lotto. I don't remember her reply but i don't think it was very nice.

So i PM'ed Saadyst to try and sort things out. We had a long discussion. He was very patient and at all times polite. But he would not budge and could see nothing wrong with allowing a lvl 49 to lotto, despite his own rules stating only lvl 50 can. (btw at this time both Fest and Saad were in LA: purely coincidental i'm sure).

I probably wouldn't have minded if i'd been told at the lotto that Fest's Druid was only lvl 49. But the thing that annoyed me most was the underhand way that he entered the lotto: make Druid anon, log lvl 50 main, do lotto with lvl 50.

I think it's fair to say that everyone who entered that lotto was cheated by Saadyst's rules. After all if the rules say that only lvl 50 can lotto then surely that means that lvl 49 can not lotto.

But i remember when i was complaining about how i had been cheated in /os and the discussion briefly spilled over into /as, someone said "oh but Fest has done so much for the Realm", so i guess if u are L33T enough it's ok to cheat.

I'm not saying that Saadyst hasn't done a lot for the Realm, coz if i did then i'd be a liar too.
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had to take you off ignore to respond, since you've been harassing me ever since then.

anyway

1) at first i did not know the druid was not 50, as i did not do each individual lotto, im pretty sure there were a lot of problems, but for the first FFA raids i did, i was happy that i succeeded in the kill, lotto was not terribly important to me.

2) when i did speak to fest, i saw it was lvl 49.95 or something obscenely close. i remember full well being 'cheated' (imo) out of a bard vest from legion on censi's raid.. since at lvl 49 i was rr6.2, and some guy who was rr 2? and could not use the full potential of the vest, i was not allowed to lotto for it, and he was, even tho we both equally could not use it to its maximum potential. i felt that the sheer matter of 1 bub on my char to 50 was so inconsequential that the entire thing was a farce.

3) i was not prepared to re-do the lotto and go to the effort of the crap involved

4) guild matter to me, but i would not cheat simply because of it.

you are aware i was not made immediately aware, and i did not even know of it myself - until the following day when you contacted me.
 
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Xray

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That's a load of fucking bullshit.

When i challenged Fest in the CG, he said ask Saadyst, i was in his group. I did and you told me that Fest played his druid in your group.

Please remember at that time i did not know that Fest's Druid was not lvl 50. So i accepted your word. But surely you did know, if you were in the same group as him. I mean come on you can't be that stupid.

I'm sry that you feel that you were also cheated in another Raid. But that's not the point. Just because someone did you wrong, it does not justify you cheating other people in your Raid Lottos.

I couldn't give a toss about the Hauberk now, as i have crafted my own full set of MP scale. And i would never put +Regrowth on any of my armour.

But i really do think that it's a shame that you dont have the balls to admit that you made mistake, especially when u say things like this:

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch


3) i was not prepared to re-do the lotto and go to the effort of the crap involved
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I mean honestly why "re-do" the lotto, if you didn't cheat me and all the other honest lvl 50s in that lotto?
 
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old.Tzeentch

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Originally posted by Xray
That's a load of fucking bullshit.

When i challenged Fest in the CG, he said ask Saadyst, i was in his group. I did and you told me that Fest played his druid in your group.

Please remember at that time i did not know that Fest's Druid was not lvl 50. So i accepted your word. But surely you did know, if you were in the same group as him. I mean come on you can't be that stupid.

I'm sry that you feel that you were also cheated in another Raid. But that's not the point. Just because someone did you wrong, it does not justify you cheating other people in your Raid Lottos.

I couldn't give a toss about the Hauberk now, as i have crafted my own full set of MP scale. And i would never put +Regrowth on any of my armour.

But i really do think that it's a shame that you dont have the balls to admit that you made mistake, especially when u say things like this:



I mean honestly why "re-do" the lotto, if you didn't cheat me and all the other honest lvl 50s in that lotto?
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1) there was 2fgs of LA there. why the hell do you actually think i would bother to note the level of every person in both groups? yellow con, class needed, done. stupid? with over 100 people waiting for my instructions during the attack/lotto and everything else.. yes, thats really gonna be first thing on my mind.

2) the point is similar and explains my feelings on the matter. it is relevant. please re-read if you did not understand.

3) redo the lotto - as in, if there WAS a mistake made, i would not have put forward the time to rectify it - even if the situation was reversed.

4) understand and remember the chaos the original lottos were in, and the lack of control over each individual one.. you think you are the only one with some complaint?
 
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