Which realm do u consider beeing the hardest to fight?

[Wuren]

Beeing a hib i consider albs much easier (tho they usualy have insane zergs) but when equal numbers i prefer 8 albs then 8 mids then mids, cuz of:

1) Sodding insta mezz/stun (yes we got GP but still is a pain in the ass)

2) Having a hard time to identify the classes, to know which one is the healer ect. Havent bothered to learn much about mids but vs albs u clearly see who is the Caster, Cleric and the Flute guy.

3) Pulsing blade turn, that every little kobbie run around with, always at least 7 of them in a group. Beeing a 2 h user blade turn is hell.

4) Me having 3 % Energy resist and 37 % Heat

5) I see more albs breaking mezzez then mids (i hear Sub's whining all day about thanes but i never see it happen). Usually when i get mezzed by a sorc/minstrel some mage come up and decide to cast ice root or something else.

6) The sissy dmg outpot from alb meele chars, i can have a few alb tanks sticked and attacking me while im running around smacking clerics but when a zerker decides to stick me i drop in seconds even with moose/ip.

 

[- Pathfinder -]

A Hib complaining about PBT?

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by Wuren


6) The sissy dmg outpot from alb meele chars, i can have a few alb tanks sticked and attacking me while im running around smacking clerics but when a zerker decides to stick me i drop in seconds even with moose/ip.

lmao, you should see icebreaker in a group, everone dies, and theres like 2fg albs, and ice goes and sticks to a caster and just follows him around smacking him, with like 5 tanks stuck to iceb trying to take him out

5 mins later, dead mage, and dead iceb lol
Heroes rock

 

[old.Filip]

Agree

Mids are the worst ... but mainly because of the Instant AE mezz
i consider a group of 2 healers 2 skalds + random other mid class's a good reason to log

Hibs dont have instants (except the odd champ) which is nice ..

about the mezz breaking i think
Albs are the n1 ..
second comes mids.. have been saved countless times on a AE from mids. (sometimes only to be remezz'ed by the normal AE mezz healers got)

hibs are the best to handle AE mezz maybee cuase of the large amount of stunners they got .. i dunno.. it happens a blue elf casters hits the wrong buttom but it is rarly

 

[BlueJam]

Hibs always seem to have 5000 hp each, althought that could be cos my thane hit like a girl against hib armour.

 

[AbPoon]

Aye tis the same for most mids.

Would rather run into a fg of hibs then a fg of albs just due 2 the fact its normally a better fight, i find the hib tanks alot tougher in general and the casters alot more nasty (though 20% dmg to magic helps you guys )

This is not 2 say the albs dont know how 2 play and are all gimped but i think that from how things have been going in alb land of l8 and the fact they normally have the numbers the individule players have maybe lost abit of their confidence to take on even numbers and tend 2 hesitate alot more ( and we all know what hesitation leads to)

But if i had the choice to take on a pally (lol) or a polearms man, or a spearo or a warden i know which one i'd go 4 for my better chance of rp's

P.S this is not a flame of any kind 2 the albs and feel free 2 call my class gimped or watever

 

[Sabu]

Sad but reading Wuren i agree in almost all. A great problem is how easy is to kill our casters.

When i go for an elf caster 60%-70% of times im mezzed-nuked.

With mids our tanks go always for the trolls and i dont know why, if u attack a mid caster u will prolly lone while the rest of your group is going for a hard troll who is being healed.

When Mids and Hibs see an Avalonian.... and i slam the first tank on our caster but they come 4 or 5 while our tanks are figthing with an hero or a ugly troll.

There are a lot of and good players in albion but seems that we always follow the noobs.

 

[Subbiz]

<SIGH> ofc lameass school comp crashes when Ive wrote alot :|

Hibs are the worst imo, because:

1) nice ae mezz, and handling of the mezzed enemies.. They know what classes to go for, if they recognize a healer, he is boned.. And the hib tankers arent scared of jumping right in to a fight.. Sometimes they do run around chasing some tank tho, but I guess many mids does the same when fighting hibs.

2) the damn damage and castrate of hib nukes.. Not to mention the rather big gfx effects on the spells when they hit u. Forces one to play with /effects none if u wanna see what u are doing while getting n00ked.

3) hibs are good at making a nice rvr group.. always a bard or 2, a druid and a couple of uber dmg dealing casters and some nice tanks

4) pbae sickass dmg (you are hit for 888 damage!) :|


Alb kinda suck, becaues they never play teamplay... they just run around hitting what there is to hit, and they mostly only dare to do it when they are sure to win the fight. You dont really see any alb rvr groups running around on their own, and its far from all the time that there is an enemy realm zerging.

Id like to see a good rvr-group/guild from alb, they would do nicely with a good sorc.

 

[old.Nol]

hmmm, depends on who you meet, the alb red squad is pretty wicked because the tend to run around with Riwan, who has a .5 sec quicker aoe mezz then all hib bards, old Veeshan's groups were always fooking wicked too(haven't run into new veeshan.... On the middy side, killgorde and sub's group make the quickest work of me.

 

[old.Filip]

in fact that is 1 of the most boring aspect's of this game..

The class's means to much imho.

If hibs defend a keep i would not dream attacking it...
If you dont have Sorc with you (FG) and meet a Hib/mid Fgroup then run

If the Mid group got 2 healers ...... well just run...

AE mezz and Stealth should not have been in the game imho..

Edit: Ya nick... when albs have sorc a figth with hibs is nice .. then we get a small mezz advantage (in fact the normall place for ambush when we grouped with Riwen was called "The Spot" .. ie .. ok regroup at spot .. or meet at spot)

 

[old.Odysseus]

I have considerable trouble with ppl from Albion. Cant seem to hurt them at all.

 

[hotrat]

tough one to answer as an alb, if i could fight albs they would be the easiest for sure, total lack of ae mezzers, so mostly u would only get ae rooted, not much stun except minstrel instant (clerics are too busy healing).

With mids its all about the healers, with a few good healers mids are the hardest; insta mezz the first wave, then cast mezz on top of them so all ppl running through them get mezzed, then ae stun on top and watch the runies spear to death (they got 11 secs) prolly wont kill all the tanks but mages and rogues will all be dead for sure.

With hibs the bard is easy to spot and (so long as there arent too many) preventing the ae mezz isnt too hard. However if u get stunned 90% of the time ur dead, and no point going for hero's until the end of a battle. Druid pets are also damn annoying cus they interupt u.

At keeps hibs are prolly hardest cus of pbae, and damn chanter pets. Oh wait lol uber cast through wall see through stealth pets and pbae on the same char, which idiot thought of that.

 

[Jiggs]

on open ground: mids (healer mezz+good tactics)
in a keep: hibs (caster stun+pbaoe)

 

[-Wedge-]

(clerics are too busy healing).

Thats a laugh... Too busy smiting you mean... I only know a few that actually HEAL in RvR.... 2 are in my guild (Moonwolf & Abelardus), also Saer isnt shy to give a heal (and full-hp rezzes in keep defenses, thnx m8 ) and Rhuric (I think bad with names)...

Most other clerics (that I've grouped with), simply smite and in the end: "oh sorry, didnt see you die" ...

But back to the topic, currently, I hate Mids the most, instant AE-stun, instant AE-mezz, instant single-mezz... And this list castable too...

I think that once bards get instant AE-mezz (they dont have this yet right?), then hibs will go high up the list too...

If I where a mid, then albs would probably be the easiest to kill...

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Originally posted by old.Filip

about the mezz breaking i think
Albs are the n1 ..
second comes mids.. have been saved countless times on a AE from mids. (sometimes only to be remezz'ed by the normal AE mezz healers got)

still playing 1.36?

Anyway when I played hib, mids were hardest. Now when I play mid hib are hardest, many bards arround, and they all know what their task is.

 

[Juanita]

I find mids harder to fight than albs. They are usually with more tanks, and those tanks seem to have one goal: Gank the Bard. Must be some national sport in middieland, though it's been better since i lost the swirling notes of death

When albs come i'm usually the last man standing from my group, though i CAN and WILL AoE mezz

Ps. Trapp we know what our task is, because basically thats the only thing we can do.

 

[Molten Lava]

Mids

Mids are just to hard to kill for me...but thats mainly because I'm:

1. To low for RvR
2. A non-damage-dealing Caster (sorc)

Hibs seem to be a bit easier to kill.

Anyhow I would like to ask if you hibs/mids have an explantion why all non-tactical gamers (ok accept for the 4 people in alb over 1 mil RP's) play in Alb and all you Churchill/Rommel/Ceasar-like uber tactical players end up in hib/mid? Would be very nice jump of nature to put 90% of the non-tactical-gamers in alb...and the rest equally devided between mid and hib.

Ever thought of the possibility that you have better classes? The possibility that some things in this game aren't balanced (so the only way to balance is numbers) Imho Alb classes are weaker than hib/mid classes the only way we can keep up with Keep-defence and relic-raids etc is too have MORE PEOPLE.....thats the main strength of Albion....so if we meet 1 full group of mids against 1 full group of Albs...yeah sure we loose....but dont start talking about tactics.....

And then..people who know the game move from Alb to Mid or Hib because the classes are better there....which leaves us with the noobs (im one of them) who dont know how to play proper RvR

So combination of things: Albs have more noobs (so yes its partially tactics) but more important Albs classes are worse. I say Nerf Hibs/Mids

Your favourite canon-fodder

/em sits down and gets ready to be flamed

EDIT: Yes I know i totally screw up my story by askin a question and answering it myself...anyhow...was fun to write it all

 

[old.Akirai]

Dont like fighting hibs, Too many casters and too many power relics.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Re: Mids

Originally posted by Molten Lava

Anyhow I would like to ask if you hibs/mids have an explantion why all non-tactical gamers (ok accept for the 4 people in alb over 1 mil RP's) play in Alb and all you Churchill/Rommel/Ceasar-like uber tactical players end up in hib/mid? Would be very nice jump of nature to put 90% of the non-tactical-gamers in alb...and the rest equally devided between mid and hib.

lmao

nicely put

I guess it's simply when you have superior numbers in RvR (which is not unusual for Albs, but all sides have had it one time or another), bloodlust takes over, and the simplest thing to do really is to just trample over everyone... hibs/mids dont tend to have a huge number in Emain so much, so they are more used to small skirmishes and group tactics.

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Re: Mids

Originally posted by Molten Lava
Mids are just to hard to kill for me...but thats mainly because I'm:

1. To low for RvR
2. A non-damage-dealing Caster (sorc)

Hibs seem to be a bit easier to kill.

Anyhow I would like to ask if you hibs/mids have an explantion why all non-tactical gamers (ok accept for the 4 people in alb over 1 mil RP's) play in Alb and all you Churchill/Rommel/Ceasar-like uber tactical players end up in hib/mid? Would be very nice jump of nature to put 90% of the non-tactical-gamers in alb...and the rest equally devided between mid and hib.

Ever thought of the possibility that you have better classes?

No it's because you don't play the good classes, comming more sorcs now, but I still can't understand at all why everyone want to be turkist with crap pets, or wizard with boltage.
Sorcs help your realm more, AND are great fun to play. ae-messing is like a drug, and if you go high body you nuke like a god (got 24 sorc on pryd)

 

[K0nah]

Hibs are the most frustrating.

Mids are the most fun (altho this is changing fast with the number of healers and runies u guys seem to have been PLing)

Troll zerkers are ouchy, the others aint so bad.

 

[sorusi]

Trapp, plz..

L24 ... you cant tell an class from that lvl.. TOTALLY different at L50... well was for me

 

[Talifer]

Has to be hibs or mids, I think the main reason being the instants of the mids and the stuns of the hibs. I usually jump past the tanks and start beating on the casters at the back, with mids this usually results in an AoE instant stun or instant mez followed by me being nuked to death. With hibs it's usually stun nuked to death, since all casters have stun.

I think the reason albs are the weakest, in this respect, is that we don't have the same capability of protecting our casters.

This means mid/hib tanks get to run over our casters, while taking a bit of damage but still dishing out the damage. Whereas alb tanks get stopped in their tracks most of the time before they can seriously hurt enemy casters.

Let's face it, it's a casters world in RvR, they're the ones that change the tide of battles, so it's important that they are kept alive, whoever keeps them alive the longest will probably win, I think hibs/mids have an easier time in doing this than albs.

Talifer

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by old.Trapp|Uberleech

still playing 1.36?

Anyway when I played hib, mids were hardest. Now when I play mid hib are hardest, many bards arround, and they all know what their task is.

The insta mez healers got doesnt trigger an immunity timer of any kind. Ive tested it

 

[old.Xarr]

i'd have to say hib because of heroes with ip/m00se, pbaoe casters that sting like nothing else and the fact that every damn hib caster has a baseline stun spell!

rawr!

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by K0nah
Hibs are the most frustrating.

Mids are the most fun (altho this is changing fast with the number of healers and runies u guys seem to have been PLing)

Troll zerkers are ouchy, the others aint so bad.

K0nah, worst tank type i have ever seen. *ouch*

Other than that and the occasional cabalist/sorc(w00t! i have actually been nearsighted!!! gogo elfslayer! ) albs kinda suck(with a few exceptions, dont have space to mention y'all)

Mids on the other hand goes like this..

Insta mezed..

as soon as it breaks im nearsighted about 987359879843 times and then im stunned and killed.

The above is 80% sure to happen unless im not pure ganked by 76 trolls...

 

[Talifer]

Originally posted by old.Niljindil


The insta mez healers got doesnt trigger an immunity timer of any kind. Ive tested it

I think mids have different types of stuns or something which have totally independant timers (Way to go mythic). Personally I have been multi-stunned on numerous occasion (i.e. I have two different stuns active at once). Stunned, broken free and been stunned straight away again, plus I'm sure I've been mezzed inside the supposed minute immunity aswell, I don't know the ins and out of the rules but I'm quite sure it's not as simple as "immunity from all stun/mez for one minute".

Talifer

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Originally posted by old.Niljindil


The insta mez healers got doesnt trigger an immunity timer of any kind. Ive tested it

you're kidding? if not, nasty as frking hell

 

[old.Arnor]

I just happen to agree with Sub on about everything

Damn you Gobarnachta!

 

[old.Trapp|Uberleech]

Originally posted by sorusi
Trapp, plz..

L24 ... you cant tell an class from that lvl.. TOTALLY different at L50... well was for me

maybe I can't, but what's your point though? have to play a lvl 50 sorc to know how much albion need ae mez in rvr?

before I started my bg sorc I was of same opinion as I am now, playing it in bg was exactly like I thought it would be.