When the Maelstrom bug abusers are out

[Minimez]

Thats not me thats valgair :C ive been away, dont think ive played vs you :C I dont lead much anymore either if i did play as its frigging boring tbh, with lack of action on prydwen.

Anti radar software caught up with you then? cant lead without radar installed?

 

[cougar]

this whine is so last month

 

[Bubble]

Last year 'Radar Pride'

 

[Zede]

its not easy for everyone for fuck sake

i played since beta and rvr'd quite a bit as pve pisses me off. I never ever been invited to rvr gank grps and often soloed / duo'd with my sb...and its not soddin easy and i pleased with wot i accomplished even tho in most eyes its shite.

just cos mid got the classes to make good gank groups doesnt make all of mid easy does it...use your brain...i dont pick chars cos they fotm or ubah or wotever crap u might expect everyone does...i pick it cos its fun and fun doesnt mean winning everytime! and yes im pissed off! bye.

fair enough m8, a nice mid more please !

 

[Balbor]

i don't think its right to acuse people of cheating just because they use an effective formular to RvR with. Its war, and war is based on equations 99% of the time and not personal skill. In fact people that do well in RvR do as much as they can to take out the skill of winning, crafted and farmed gear, fotm classes and specs, buffbots, assist macros so one of the damage dealers in a group needs to be paying attention, spread heals so non of the heals need to be paying too much attention etc.

If DAOC was based on person skill, then it woundn't matter than group set up you used and what equipemnt you used.

 

[Downanael]

Lot of bitterness..

Same if i say here that every alb is retarded here than you say every alb is retarded on excalibur eh? I wont deny 90% of the albs there actually run with epics but saying whole realm zergs? Cant you come up with better flame.

Haven't seen Outlaw/Zoyster/Alpha etc on epic yet thought,you sure you dont make mistake between epic and toa suit? You are exatly as good as me to talk about Prydwen RvR situation.

 

[VidX]

Abusing the 28 buff bug is bug abuse, no question about it. Question really is: are the buffs beneficial apart from that or are they just to hit 28 total?

Then again, dps debuffing a caster is about the same sort of thing, you can say you are doing it cause they might staff you... or you can say you're doing it to interupt them (like I do), so there's really no point arguing, all players will make the most of their abilities to win, that's life.

And there's no way you can provide any facts that Mael are using radar, as Madition says, it's damn easy to get stealther info, we get it all the time on /as, and it can pin-point mid/alb groups with enough info. Suppose it depends on your point of view with the radar whine, and it's biased due to you not seeing the info they are getting, or seeing the stealthers who are feeding them it.

But yeah, even with grapple working (essence shear or just ressed) it's damn hard to beat Mael 1, and we've been trying with the exact same group and group setup for coming up on 4 weeks now, as Snoz says, they have the realm rank advantage, so they will generally win a 1fg vs 1fg fight against a rr5 or lower group. And tbh, I'd whine more about lag-casting mezzing sorcs than I would about Remish abusing the grapple bug, it's more annoying (probably cause I don't see the grapple bug effects ).

Like all whine, any decent players will ignore it (or respond with essays if they are me lol) so Mael will just do that as well and will keep on playing...

We will beat you finally this week though Mael (I hope lol)

 

[VidX]

Same if i say here that every alb is retarded here than you say every alb is retarded on excalibur eh? I wont deny 90% of the albs there actually run with epics but saying whole realm zergs? Cant you come up with better flame.

Haven't seen Outlaw/Zoyster/Alpha etc on epic yet thought,you sure you dont make mistake between epic and toa suit? You are exatly as good as me to talk about Prydwen RvR situation.

Yeah, but Outlaw and Zoyster have been playing those characters since open beta, I would be seriously shocked if they were still in epic armour

But yeah, Prydwen RvR tends to be of an average higher level than Excal by far, in terms of skill involved that is, probably due to the higher number of 1fg fights and lower number of zergs. Doesn't mean the level of the skill/intelligence a player has is any higher, just that going by the way things work, if you have 900 stupid people and 100 clever ones on the left, and 90 stupid people and 10 clever ones on the right, everyone will assume the ones on the left are the more stupid side, same average on both though.

The whole Excal/Prydwen issue isn't one of fact, it's one of assumption. People on Prydwen see Excal as a zerg server, and the bigger the zerg warfare, the less skill involved, yet people on Excal see Prydwen as a boring zerver with a lack of RvR. Players on their own servers would disagree with the opinions of the other server ofc

 

[Xeanor]

Same if i say here that every alb is retarded here than you say every alb is retarded on excalibur eh? I wont deny 90% of the albs there actually run with epics but saying whole realm zergs? Cant you come up with better flame.

Haven't seen Outlaw/Zoyster/Alpha etc on epic yet thought,you sure you dont make mistake between epic and toa suit? You are exatly as good as me to talk about Prydwen RvR situation.

No but I've seen Therg (rr10 cleric) in epic and Zoyster in a af36 vest up until rr8 or so. There's too much bad things to say aobut the excalibur albs which prydwen albs don't have, so I suggest you never say anything about Prydwen albs again

 

[Kjel]

soooo... anyone want noodles?

 

[Jarakin]

Prydwen albs...jesus

Down is a gimp!

 

[Dorin]

its not easy for everyone for fuck sake

i played since beta and rvr'd quite a bit as pve pisses me off. I never ever been invited to rvr gank grps and often soloed / duo'd with my sb...and its not soddin easy and i pleased with wot i accomplished even tho in most eyes its shite.

just cos mid got the classes to make good gank groups doesnt make all of mid easy does it...use your brain...i dont pick chars cos they fotm or ubah or wotever crap u might expect everyone does...i pick it cos its fun and fun doesnt mean winning everytime! and yes im pissed off! bye.

noone ever will believe that you chose a char in mid for -F-U-N-, seems impossible for non-mids :>

 

[Dorin]

The whole Excal/Prydwen issue isn't one of fact, it's one of assumption. People on Prydwen see Excal as a zerg server, and the bigger the zerg warfare, the less skill involved, yet people on Excal see Prydwen as a boring zerver with a lack of RvR. Players on their own servers would disagree with the opinions of the other server ofc

what about ppl playing / played on both servers ? .p

 

[Aussie]

need more old cows from 1+ year ago xeanor.

 

[snoz]

I've noticed couple times when i meet Dwera and such and he run away.. i follow.. oops.. there was a fg mids.. has happened to be Maelstrom... so often stealthers are the thing they use.. not radar.. but i dunno for sure though.. maybe its both...

When i was leading dwera was in constant PM with me, me and him are like little cyber buddy's. Im sure him and valgair have the same relationship. Alot of time he pm me say 8 alb stealthers amg come help me fix. He pops them before we get there and we are inc. Thats all i can say.

 

[snoz]

Oh bibi, you dont really understand do you ? I can guarantee I have RvRed as much as you over the last year, but the random alb dies alot sooner than the random mid. Albs win 1 on 4 fights. Tell me, waiting at your ck, how long does it take for you to find a ) a healer class b) some cc ? Ah yes, mids get that in one class, where as albs will wait an hour for some cc, find none , go out get ganked and wonder why. My RR would be 7 is if I had gone easymode.

Can take ages ... but we run a fixed group .. so dont have those problems. I did once .. you and ur friends reroll to fill the gaps innit. Thats idea of guild etc to have some struture, no point having 16 tanks and 1 healer in guild is there ? Maelstrom is very balanced, and then we have alot of friends too who are very active and can fill spots if need be. More casual mids have the same problem .. if not worse. Its called being part of a good guild and a good alliance that helps with these problems. Like i say been their seen it and done it .. trying to make groups.

 

[snoz]

its not easy for everyone for fuck sake

i played since beta and rvr'd quite a bit as pve pisses me off. I never ever been invited to rvr gank grps and often soloed / duo'd with my sb...and its not soddin easy and i pleased with wot i accomplished even tho in most eyes its shite.

just cos mid got the classes to make good gank groups doesnt make all of mid easy does it...use your brain...i dont pick chars cos they fotm or ubah or wotever crap u might expect everyone does...i pick it cos its fun and fun doesnt mean winning everytime! and yes im pissed off! bye.

Well imo things like this are peoples own fault, I know i fix maelstrom group 99% of time when i play, and i have no hatred for anyone, im just looking for people who have some manners and know how to play. If you never got invites its cause i dont know you or u dont have the right classes. Thats daoc for you You have to play the social game too .... you know the old saying, you get out what you put in. Ofcourse some people get lucky and have uber wankers like me powerlevel them to rr10, but then im a swedish fan boi :C

If you were that interested in RVR you would fix your own little gank group with ur friends etc. If u just log on and expect world to fall in ur lap ... its not going to happen, i know this myself and is reasonwhy i took over maelstrom and turned it from a casual 100 member pve/rvr guild into a well oiled sex machine.

 

[snoz]

Anti radar software caught up with you then? cant lead without radar installed?

pfft :]All whine i never find anything " OMG U SUCK BAF FOUND THEM FIRST" etc so doubt very much i use radar ! I use dem skills ! lightning mezz reflexs.

 

[snoz]

Abusing the 28 buff bug is bug abuse, no question about it. Question really is: are the buffs beneficial apart from that or are they just to hit 28 total?

Then again, dps debuffing a caster is about the same sort of thing, you can say you are doing it cause they might staff you... or you can say you're doing it to interupt them (like I do), so there's really no point arguing, all players will make the most of their abilities to win, that's life.

And there's no way you can provide any facts that Mael are using radar, as Madition says, it's damn easy to get stealther info, we get it all the time on /as, and it can pin-point mid/alb groups with enough info. Suppose it depends on your point of view with the radar whine, and it's biased due to you not seeing the info they are getting, or seeing the stealthers who are feeding them it.

But yeah, even with grapple working (essence shear or just ressed) it's damn hard to beat Mael 1, and we've been trying with the exact same group and group setup for coming up on 4 weeks now, as Snoz says, they have the realm rank advantage, so they will generally win a 1fg vs 1fg fight against a rr5 or lower group. And tbh, I'd whine more about lag-casting mezzing sorcs than I would about Remish abusing the grapple bug, it's more annoying (probably cause I don't see the grapple bug effects ).

Like all whine, any decent players will ignore it (or respond with essays if they are me lol) so Mael will just do that as well and will keep on playing...

We will beat you finally this week though Mael (I hope lol)

We were low realm rank once too, my group were all rr2 when we started and got to high rr together. We took the beatings like others or maybe alot less, is it ez mode or is it omg da skills ? You pick

Was so hard for us to fight PE when we were rr4/5/6/7/ etc. Began getting easier just before toa. Ofcourse that ruined everything.

Anyway we saw this as a challenge, we never ranaround as 2-3 fg. Yes we got pissed and logged abit or cried irl or changed zone etc ( gets boring rambo and 4 infs adding every fight) But we accepted the RR thing.

 

[Damon_D]

Abusing the 28 buff bug is bug abuse, no question about it. Question really is: are the buffs beneficial apart from that or are they just to hit 28 total?

Then again, dps debuffing a caster is about the same sort of thing, you can say you are doing it cause they might staff you... or you can say you're doing it to interupt them (like I do), so there's really no point arguing, all players will make the most of their abilities to win, that's life.

And there's no way you can provide any facts that Mael are using radar, as Madition says, it's damn easy to get stealther info, we get it all the time on /as, and it can pin-point mid/alb groups with enough info. Suppose it depends on your point of view with the radar whine, and it's biased due to you not seeing the info they are getting, or seeing the stealthers who are feeding them it.

But yeah, even with grapple working (essence shear or just ressed) it's damn hard to beat Mael 1, and we've been trying with the exact same group and group setup for coming up on 4 weeks now, as Snoz says, they have the realm rank advantage, so they will generally win a 1fg vs 1fg fight against a rr5 or lower group. And tbh, I'd whine more about lag-casting mezzing sorcs than I would about Remish abusing the grapple bug, it's more annoying (probably cause I don't see the grapple bug effects ).

Like all whine, any decent players will ignore it (or respond with essays if they are me lol) so Mael will just do that as well and will keep on playing...

We will beat you finally this week though Mael (I hope lol)

Ahhh finaly a sensible person......

 

[snoz]

Ahhh finaly a sensible person......

hahaha .. oh dear lord.

 

[Shike]

what the hell snoz... /agree totally on the bit regarding guild etc... very important actually

What in hell made you wake up one morning and start making sense and post good stuff? Dont misunderstand, Im glad to see it but.. people on forums are weeeeird (that includes schizome aswell I know^^)

 

[Nerwen]

Funny thread on a topic you find in forums on any server in any country.

I think the topic of easy mode and "prof-players" vs. casual ones has been discussed extensivly without the chance of ever reaching an agreement on this.

But the scary part starts when people start defending the abuse of bugs with the existence of ras they personally deem overpowered and inappropriate.

I thing nothing and absolutly nothing is an excuse for exploiting or using cheats. Every realm has some edges and flaws. Get used to it and don't find excuses for this kind of bullshit. If you can't design your on game and do things as you wish.

Those are the threads that make me happy playing a class that no one ever would consider inviting in a rvr-group. Makes things much more easier.

Stop whining and enjoy playing fair.

Your local Earthgimp

 

[Eroa]

Is scary when you see Snoz post sensible posts

Someone must have hacked his FH acc

 

[Dorin]

i love many buff icons on my screen (looks c00l fyi!)and use svgery buffs (i cant even shoot all, damn4!!!), why is that bugabuse ?

 

[Clipse]

If you were that interested in RVR you would fix your own little gank group with ur friends etc. If u just log on and expect world to fall in ur lap ... its not going to happen, i know this myself and is reasonwhy i took over maelstrom and turned it from a casual 100 member pve/rvr guild into a well oiled sex machine.

Nice \o/

 

[Clipse]

No but I've seen Therg (rr10 cleric) in epic and Zoyster in a af36 vest up until rr8 or so. There's too much bad things to say aobut the excalibur albs which prydwen albs don't have, so I suggest you never say anything about Prydwen albs again

Rofl, Xeanor, u sound familiar....... did u play on Excal. FYI, Therg, is one of the best Clerics in DAOC, has is own style, like no other. And that AF37 vest, I used to wear b4 we even had the first patch, no 1 paid attention to resists, and I thought the +6 Fire on it would be of rox. Jeez some peeps, never foregt a thing

P.S that Therg epic, was a SIDI vest

 

[Bubble]

Is scary when you see Snoz post sensible posts

Someone must have hacked his FH acc

^^
I was thinking the same

They did start low RR and worked well as a team to get were they did (With some help from a uber group setup )

 

[Iceflower]

>They did start low RR and worked well as a team to get were they did (With some help from a uber group setup

And a lot of time in the rvr zones....makes sense. But describing a guild as a well oiled sexmachine indicate you need to get out in the real world a bit more or your guildmeetings are very strange events.

 

[remi]

No but I've seen Therg (rr10 cleric) in epic and Zoyster in a af36 vest up until rr8 or so. There's too much bad things to say aobut the excalibur albs which prydwen albs don't have, so I suggest you never say anything about Prydwen albs again

Therg had/have sidi~~

As for Zoyster r0xstar, ye he had a af36 robe cos it gave him luck and looked cool

Pryd albs aint better in any way.