Whats wrong with sentencing?

[Lamp]

How could someone who did that not go to jail?

 

[Bahumat]

Makes no sense. You beat someone up unprovoked, you should not just walk free.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Case of he said she said really. Conflicting stories from both, most likely the perp understating and the victim overstating things.

In any case; if you have ever hit anyone else, pushed them down etc, you can't judge this.

 

[Ch3tan]

Daily, daily, daily daily fail.

I'm sure there is a nasty story about a lack of justice there somewhere, but it's more than likely not the one that nasty piece of "journalism" gives.

 

[kiliarien]

Show's there's some massive screwy consistency:

BBC News - Jade Goody website 'troll' from Manchester jailed

He got jail and I don't doubt he deserved it, but then this dude walks free....fooking silly

 

[Marc]

Welcome to England, the once great nation, now the laughing stock of the world.

Nothing surprises me when it comes to "in-ger-lund"

 

[Zenith.UK]

He wasn't lying in a pool of blood and I didn't kick him in the head. I did kick him in his back when was lying on the ground though.

So it's okay to kick someone in the back but not in the head?

I'm a vengeful person. When someone wrongs me, I hold a grudge and I will pay it back some day out of the blue. For example, I'm looking forward to spitting on my ex-landlord's grave at his funeral.

 

[Punishment]

My dad when he was 13 was in a catholic boys public school and his english teacher was a right asshole , one day in class he jumped up on a desk behind my dad's and kicked him full force in the back <my dad was a quiet kid and the comment he thought my dad said was made by someone else>

My dad then always remembered and when he was 40 or so and well set up he saw that prick get out of brand new merc parked outside somsone else's house .

Turns out kicking a young defenceless boy in the back will cost you 500 euro of tyres good sir .

 

[old.Tohtori]

So it's okay to kick someone in the back but not in the head?

Like i said, anyone who ahs done any violence towards another person, is just a minor minor step away from this.

 

[BloodOmen]

Because the laws in the UK at present are a fucking farce, not so much the judges faults its more a case of what judges are legally allowed to give people in accordance with the law :/ its the GoV that needs to change it yet they won't because they're soooooo blind as to how shitty sentences are here.

Its not very often I say we should be more like the USA but in this case we should be more like the USA they take no shit when it comes to prison terms and those prison terms are huuuuuuuuuuge you can goto prison over there for shop lifting for 5-15 years if you do it enough what does that say about ours? they get a bigger jail term for shop lifting than most of the scum here gets for murders and rapes.


That is how little life means in this country.

 

[Huntingtons]

yet, they have higher crime rates and more and more people going to jail for petty theft who probably will reoffend harder crimes.

youre one dumb motherfucker if you think US Legal system is any good

 

[Ch3tan]

Lol, you have huge delusions about the us prison system blood.

 

[BloodOmen]

Lol, you have huge delusions about the us prison system blood.

Delusions? regardless of my inaccuracies their prison system dwarfs ours when it comes to punishing those that need to be punished.

As for their crime rates vs ours gun laws explain why its alot higher as does being bordered with a country notorious for mass drug production and major turf wars.

 

[Punishment]

Delusions? regardless of my inaccuracies their prison system dwarfs ours when it comes to punishing those that need to be punished.

As for their crime rates vs ours gun laws explain why its alot higher as does being bordered with a country notorious for mass drug production and major turf wars.

You can also be damn sure they arent paying 80 grand a year per prisoner

 

[BloodOmen]

You can also be damn sure they arent paying 80 grand a year per prisoner

God knows what they pay, the cost isnt the issue here the issue is that people are getting off free or very lightly over serious crimes, like the old man that has cancer being kicked and punched.. the guy should have been banged to rights and put away for a good few years atleast. When the human race goes around putting a price on victims heads you know some sort of alarm bell should be ringing.

 

[Lamp]

Deffo. That thug should have got some prison time for that. The current system is fucked up. If an elderly woman can't pay her TV licence or Council Tax they will send her to prison (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/4989970.stm). If you kick a terminally old man in the head you walk away scott free. Somethings very wrong.

 

[kiliarien]

Deffo. That thug should have got some prison time for that. The current system is fucked up. If an elderly woman can't pay her TV licence or Council Tax they will send her to prison (BBC NEWS | England | Kent | Man, 74, jailed over council tax). If you kick a terminally old man in the head you walk away scott free. Somethings very wrong.

Well one thing came out of it - he stayed in Elmey prison, and one of the three prisons on the Isle of Sheppey are the safest and most frigging civilised places to be on that godforsaken dump of an island.

Still, bloody stupid.

 

[Punishment]

God knows what they pay, the cost isnt the issue here the issue is that people are getting off free or very lightly over serious crimes, like the old man that has cancer being kicked and punched.. the guy should have been banged to rights and put away for a good few years atleast. When the human race goes around putting a price on victims heads you know some sort of alarm bell should be ringing.

Unfortunately cost is always an issue , the yanks run their prisons cheaper than most so they can throw the book at offenders and not care too much + Alot of the prisons over there depending on the state are actually profit making organisations wheras in the UK for example prisoners are let sit in their cells all day with their finger up their arse thinking how hard they are with nothing better to do than scheme and possibly meet fellow cohorts of the future .

Cost will always be a factor for a judge passing sentance , so remove that and remove the problem , if a thug can live on 5k benifits why does it cost so much to keep them in a cell , makes no sense

 

[Huntingtons]

Delusions? regardless of my inaccuracies their prison system dwarfs ours when it comes to punishing those that need to be punished.

As for their crime rates vs ours gun laws explain why its alot higher as does being bordered with a country notorious for mass drug production and major turf wars.

Please do explain how they are related, with facts.

 

[Ch3tan]

Please explain why you think the Us gives harsher punishments, backed up with facts, not just your opinion.

 

[Punishment]

http://www.defendingjustice.org/pdfs/factsheets/9-Fact Sheet - US vs World.pdf

 

[Huntingtons]

who are you refering to, coz i feel targeted but i have said no such thing

 

[mooSe_]

The US prison system is a horrific over-crowded mess, imo it would be a terrible mistake to model our system on theirs.

 

[BloodOmen]

Please explain why you think the Us gives harsher punishments, backed up with facts, not just your opinion.

Check jail terms given for specific crimes USA vs UK I really don't think I have to speak for any of it facts speak for themselves. The USA operate on a 3 strike your out thing so you fuck up 3 times and you will goto prison regardless of the crime most times.

Usa shoplifter that lead police on a car chase got jailed in the states for 10 years or so (he had 28 previous convictions) a drug addict burgler from county durham had 75 previous convictions and he's still walking the streets because a judge thought he'd ment his ways (you can google the 2 if you think I made that up btw, just google usa shoplifter jailed and drug addict avoids jail for burglery in county durham.

As for my opinion I think my opinion is a good one evil violent people should be taken off the street period, you simply cannot defend the uk's justice system when people what kicked that old mans face in are let off scott free.

Christ I read a story not so long ago basicly saying a judge wrote to the PM and asked why he cant hand out higher sentences for certain crimes.

 

[BloodOmen]

The US prison system is a horrific over-crowded mess, imo it would be a terrible mistake to model our system on theirs.

Lol, you realise the UK's prison system is already overcrowded right? which is why so many people are being let off with crimes?

"Nearly two-thirds of Britain's prisoners are being held in overcrowded jails, according to the findings of a new study.

The Howard League for Penal Reform says 52,500 people are in jails running above capacity.

In some instances, prisons are holding almost double the number of recommended inmates.

Worst is HMP Preston with 661 prisoners - but only 356 places.

Director of the Howard League, Frances Crook, has called on the government to include a compulsory limit on the prison population in the Criminal Justice Bill, which is due to be published later this year."

And no that wasn't taken from the Daily Mail before someone asks it was taken from the BBC news website.


simple solution, build more jails and jail more scum.

 

[Punishment]

Christ I read a story not so long ago basicly saying a judge wrote to the PM and asked why he cant hand out higher sentences for certain crimes.

Like i said blood it all boils down to money , they don't want to spend it and the lefties keep of their backs while the save money , and if something happens its called a tragic event uke:

 

[Zede]

Just release all the ppl in for none violent drug related crimes - prison overcrowding solved in 1 second.

 

[Huntingtons]

petty theft and vandalism are also stupid to incarcerate from

 

[Garaen]

petty theft and vandalism are also stupid to incarcerate from

Yeah i agree, they should be given 20 hours community service and then given the opportunity to re-offend. I mean, locking someone behind bars for breaking the law? That would be stupid!

 

[Huntingtons]

coz prison will keep them from reoffending when theyre out?

lock up jay walkers then. they break the law too

dumbass