what's up with this hunter....

[Nemue]

have a lvl24 bard running around in thid atm, and ther eis this hunter that keeps crit'ing me for ~380dmg, and 160-180dmg on normal shots.

I got red 99%quality RF armor, with 95%+ condition,0-5% meleeresists only tho, still this hunter hits twice as hard as other hunters, and harder than the scouts i've met so far. i found it a bit wierd so decided to test the dmg a little with my friend who has a bg ranger.

ranger has 24+4 bow, and +20 dex (16dex from statcap), with blunt arrows, buffed with lvl24buffes from buffbot., critting me with a 5.6spd bow he doesn't even break 300dmg limit, hits for about 280-290dmg, so this hunter (named Goza), hits me for 100+ more dmg on his crit, than a fully buffed lurikeen ranger with 5.6spd bow, and who is using blunt arrows that my armor is weak against.

am i the only one that's been shot by him and been stunned at the immensly high dmg he does?

also, doesn't midgard lack the 5spd+ bows? thought they only had like 4.0spd bows or somthn like that?

 

[Craft]

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Well you do have red con armour, this could be something to do with it, id only use orange max in bg, not really sure wether it hurts or helps but id get a full sc set personally, might make a difference....and maybe he is just really well specced with a great bow..hehe..maybe..

 

[Sajko]

i constantly crit for over 300 and sometimes high 400 (max 490+additional crit) with my bg1 scout fully sc with 97% crafted bow. Buffed ofc.

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

In BG scout damage cap is 490, ranger is 470 and hunter is 420.

I regularly hit for 420 damage with my bg hunter.

The chances are hes buffed and all the other hunters you've met have either been plain crap or unbuffed, or both.

Hes probably using an MP Heartwood Heavy Composite Bow, which is indeed 5.0 spd.

 

[Nemue]

still feel sad that he's hitting me 40pts from cap on me, with red 99%qual armor, and with me being fully buffed, even the ranger who tried to crit me didn't breach the 300dmg limit, and he was using a slower bow than hunter have available. 20dex and 1pt in bow can't possibly make up for over 100pts in dmg

[EDIT] blithering - whats ur bg characters name? will keep a lookout for for u and see what u hit me for if we ever cross paths.

 

[Faeldawn]

Originally posted by Nemue
have a lvl24 bard running around in thid atm, and ther eis this hunter that keeps crit'ing me for ~380dmg, and 160-180dmg on normal shots.

ranger has 24+4 bow, and +20 dex (16dex from statcap), with blunt arrows, buffed with lvl24buffes from buffbot., critting me with a 5.6spd bow he doesn't even break 300dmg limit, hits for about 280-290dmg, so this hunter (named Goza), hits me for 100+ more dmg on his crit, than a fully buffed lurikeen ranger with 5.6spd bow, and who is using blunt arrows that my armor is weak against.

Summit wrong there imo, coz a fully sc'd and buffed ranger should crit for over 300, i would ask your friend what his starting stats were, i bet he put 10 in quickness

 

[Sajko]

there was a otd once that gave a 6.0 spd bow in mid, think it was a lvl 15 bow tho, still did nice crits. Not sure if its still ingame? I know it dont drop but perhaps someone saved it

 

[Nemue]

none of the hunters/rangers/scouts that i've had dealings with ahve really been close to Goza's damage, will try to find more rangers to duel and scouts/hunters have target practise on me to check dmg =)

[EDIT] startíng points on the ranger was str/con/dex according to himself, luriranger too.

 

[cercela]

Originally posted by Nemue
none of the hunters/rangers/scouts that i've had dealings with ahve really been close to Goza's damage, will try to find more rangers to duel and scouts/hunters have target practise on me to check dmg =)

[EDIT] startíng points on the ranger was str/con/dex according to himself, luriranger too.

Let me shoot you up, give me a shout on the time.

I have fully SCed Elf ranger 24 and have hit for some hard dmg unbuffed

 

[Nemue]

cercela - whats ur name ingame?

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Originally posted by Nemue
blithering - whats ur bg characters name? will keep a lookout for for u and see what u hit me for if we ever cross paths.

His name is misfire, hes lvl27 now. Capped him 4 times until all his equiptment was at 70% dur.

I can come and hit you with my skald though if you like

 

[Kindar]

The red con armor shouldn't affect the damage much...you have an af cap, remember? Might be just a little more than yellow con armor.
Btw...don't bards get scale? So higest is prolly 20 which would allow you to wear it. And im quite certain scale is weak to slash and resistant to crush.

I hitted quite high with my hunter in bg1 too...had a spd 5.0 bow. SC helps too.

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Originally posted by Kindar
Btw...don't bards get scale? So higest is prolly 20 which would allow you to wear it. And im quite certain scale is weak to slash and resistant to crush.

Bards dont get any higher than reinforced.

 

[cercela]

Originally posted by Nemue
cercela - whats ur name ingame?

anything starting with cerc
emmie
emmzie
bobsrus

 

[barevoose]

i myself met goza today and i agree hes very good 1-shotted my ns with sc'd 98-99% armour with bonus etc buffed (only base) and he hit me for 322 damage, not saying its that special but ive only metter 1 hunter b4 and he was lvl 20

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Your NS has less than 322 hp?! You sound broken to me.

 

[Anu]

fully sc'd and base buff u should be about 450-470 imo maybe your ill

 

[Nemue]

did some further tests by dueling a ranger (thx littlebunnyrabbit),

lvl24 luriranger, with capped stats, 24+4 bow, using a 5.5spd bow, and blunt arrows hit me for 345dmg on her critshot.

so question remains, how the heck do a hunter outdmg a maxed out luriranger, that has a slower bow than hunters have available?

[EDIT] Ranger was buffed with lvl24 druidbuffs

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Was the bow MP?

Is all your armour the same AF and qual?

 

[barevoose]

Originally posted by Anu
fully sc'd and base buff u should be about 450-470 imo maybe your ill

lol maybe i shud take him to the doctor
btw no +hits or con in sc and teh gimp is only lvl 20 atm wanted to test the armour

 

[Puppetmistress]

Originally posted by Nemue
did some further tests by dueling a ranger (thx littlebunnyrabbit),

lvl24 luriranger, with capped stats, 24+4 bow, using a 5.5spd bow, and blunt arrows hit me for 345dmg on her critshot.

so question remains, how the heck do a hunter outdmg a maxed out luriranger, that has a slower bow than hunters have available?

[EDIT] Ranger was buffed with lvl24 druidbuffs

You can get +5 in Thidranki.

Also dont forget Mids have relics so his damage might be higher (since its nowhere near damage-cap)

 

[barevoose]

Originally posted by Puppetmistress
You can get +5 in Thidranki.

Also dont forget Mids have relics so his damage might be higher (since its nowhere near damage-cap)

whats the cap?

 

[Nemue]

Originally posted by BlitheringIdiot
Was the bow MP?

Is all your armour the same AF and qual?

bow was qual:99% 5.5spd bow

and the armor i'm wearing is a full set of 99% qual, af62 (red to me at lvl24)

[EDIT] 10% extra melee dmg from the str relics should be negated by the fact that luri's can have 10 more dex than mids highest dex-race, and the fact that mids slowest bow is only 5.0 spd while rangers can use 5.5spd bows., so theoretically the ranger in the test should have made more dmg.

 

[Necrofancy]

Misfire...

I remeber that little kobbie and one thing´s certain, you´re definitely not on my christmas card list hehe

 

[klaws]

Goza's vital statistics

Bow 24+5
Stealth 19+5
Spear 11
BC 7

Using a 99 qual 5 Spd Heartwood bow.

Usually have base & spec dex buffs from 'brute the friendly & generous buffbot' at mtk

Big /wave to all the Albs and Hibs I've plinked arrows at in thid.

I think the 29 effective bow has most to do with the highish damage even more than the buffs - I recently ran a 19+5 bow spec hunter through Thid and he hit nowhere near as hard or as consistently close to cap as Goza.

Also picking the right arrows made a big difference. I never used neutral arrows always tried (unsuccesfully alot of times) to work out the enemy char and pick the proper damage type to use - the difference in crit damage is huge. Unfortunately Bards have it rough here Nemue as you ARE the number one target to take down as your death probably hurts a hib group the most and that instrument you carry is a like a big sign saying "use your crush damage here"!!.

Got to say as well that you probably haven't been on the receiving end of a crit from a scout/ranger, I have and they really do hit harder than I will ever do.

Anyway, I capped out last night on the ck take, hibbies come take ck back it's always fun times when there are lots of you in Thid.

Goza (capped kobbie hunter).

 

[Nemue]

let me tell ya, u hit me like a train, noone ever really came near your damage during my bards (Deekin) time in thid, even 2h SBs PA'd me for less dmg (other hunters/scouts didnt even breach the 300dmg limit when they tried their crits, which would be why was interested in how u managed ^^), hardest PA's hit me for 280-290 dmg, which is roughly 40% of my health (had 688 max hits).

As for grouping, never grouped in thid, don't like to lead the zerg so tried to keep away from it as much as i could. Used to run around on MB solo to trick inf/sbs to attack me, then leg it, after the PA they usually hit me for ~40dmg, so 80% of the time i reached too close to the CK so they stopped following, then /face + mezz and they're fecked =).

altho, it didn't quite work vs you, as i was dead in 4 arrows =)

 

[Telamon]

Originally posted by Nemue
bow was qual:99% 5.5spd bow

and the armor i'm wearing is a full set of 99% qual, af62 (red to me at lvl24)

[EDIT] 10% extra melee dmg from the str relics should be negated by the fact that luri's can have 10 more dex than mids highest dex-race, and the fact that mids slowest bow is only 5.0 spd while rangers can use 5.5spd bows., so theoretically the ranger in the test should have made more dmg.

Check Effectivce Armor?

I think red might have nice stats but you won't get all of the benefits anyway, no?

 

[barevoose]

could the choice of arrows have anything to do with this? like the hunter was using ones that dont resist?

 

[Nemue]

Telamon - I can't use the whole AF from the red armor, but it caps at the same value as yellow armor would have, difference is Red armor has mroe imbue points, so i get more stats into it when i SC it,

Berevoose - the ranger in the test also used arrows that my armor was weak vs, and he still hit for less dmg than the hunter.

 

[invisiblity]

Originally posted by Nemue
have a lvl24 bard running around in thid atm, and ther eis this hunter that keeps crit'ing me for ~380dmg, and 160-180dmg on normal shots.

I got red 99%quality RF armor, with 95%+ condition,0-5% meleeresists only tho, still this hunter hits twice as hard as other hunters, and harder than the scouts i've met so far. i found it a bit wierd so decided to test the dmg a little with my friend who has a bg ranger.

ranger has 24+4 bow, and +20 dex (16dex from statcap), with blunt arrows, buffed with lvl24buffes from buffbot., critting me with a 5.6spd bow he doesn't even break 300dmg limit, hits for about 280-290dmg, so this hunter (named Goza), hits me for 100+ more dmg on his crit, than a fully buffed lurikeen ranger with 5.6spd bow, and who is using blunt arrows that my armor is weak against.

am i the only one that's been shot by him and been stunned at the immensly high dmg he does?

also, doesn't midgard lack the 5spd+ bows? thought they only had like 4.0spd bows or somthn like that?

same thing but hunter was called nekrosniper
buffbotts for teh win