What Sub-Class are you gona choose and why?

[Blizard]

I shall be choosing the Acolyte Sub-Class and will be going for the Resists line

 

[bottler]

buffs since i play on classic

 

[Rustane]

Well tbh im not sure what sub-classes work for necro
But for pally definately dots .. or lifetap .. or buffs .. hm

 

[Biggilus]

subclass?

what's all this about then?

 

[bottler]

Well tbh im not sure what sub-classes work for necro
But for pally definately dots .. or lifetap .. or buffs .. hm

i would for for resists as pally

If u got all resists up any player vill hit like a sb

 

[Karl]

subclass?

what's all this about then?

:O'

 

[Basic_X]

i want my druid to get pbaoe...and my RM to get buffs

 

[eble]

Biggus i would read this if I were you:

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=180218

you have some surprises with DR i think

Eble

 

[Causes_Chaos]

as a pally - DEBUFFS!!!!!! need to go on herald see if theres any wep skill debuffs, wont ever get past 50 shield

 

[Biggilus]

read that thread before but i thought it meant u coudl train only in skills that are available to mystics or fighters for example form 1-5? ie, not much?

 

[Blizard]

Imagine this:

Capped mele resists... = about 28% on average with racial...
Physical Defence 5 = 28%
Sub-class = 5% for a 1 minute duration

In total, you will have over 60% in mele resists!!!


All my magic resists on my Scout are above 22%...

Example... 22% minimum
Avoidance of magic 3 = 10%
Sub-class = 10% for ten minutes duration!!

In total, you will have over 42% resists!!!

Gona be some longs fights out there now me thinks

 

[Fana]

Imagine this:

Capped mele resists... = about 28% on average with racial...
Physical Defence 5 = 28%
Sub-class = 5% for a 1 minute duration

In total, you will have over 60% in mele resists!!!


All my magic resists on my Scout are above 22%...

Example... 22% minimum
Avoidance of magic 3 = 10%
Sub-class = 10% for ten minutes duration!!

In total, you will have over 42% resists!!!

Gona be some longs fights out there now me thinks

Actually they dont stack on top of each other like that, instead they are counted one at a time so the total effect is less. For example if you take 100 damage and wear say chain then 27% is deducted - 73 left, then deduct melee resist, say slash 26% (26% of 73 is 19) - 54 left, then deduct physical defence 28% (28% of 54 is 15) - 39 left, deduct 5% for champ ability from this which is about 2 so you end up taking 37 damage. Might not be the right order but anyway, it isnt quite as effective as just adding them on top of each other, which would have been 86% and left only 14 damage.

 

[Elrandhir]

Actually they dont stack on top of each other like that, instead they are counted one at a time so the total effect is less. For example if you take 100 damage and wear say chain then 27% is deducted - 73 left, then deduct melee resist, say slash 26% (26% of 73 is 19) - 54 left, then deduct physical defence 28% (28% of 54 is 15) - 39 left, deduct 5% for champ ability from this which is about 2 so you end up taking 37 damage. Might not be the right order but anyway, it isnt quite as effective as just adding them on top of each other, which would have been 86% and left only 14 damage.

yus as Fana says, can't add the resists together.

 

[Void959]

Afaik the 5% will simply increase normal melee resists by 5, so it is additive, agreed about PD though, its always been second tier.

If I'm right then in Blizzards example you'll effectively get 1-(1-0.28-0.05)*(1-0.28) = 51.8% Melee resists.

 

[Syri]

nice little article here on the subclass abilities, from mythic's own site

http://www.camelotherald.com/article.php?id=173

 

[Void959]

as a pally - DEBUFFS!!!!!! need to go on herald see if theres any wep skill debuffs, wont ever get past 50 shield

I thought about that, but realised that in too many fights I won't get the opportunity to use them at all, 3s fixed cast it a long time. For 8v8 I guess it might be nice when you're rooted etc though.

 

[Elrandhir]

Think Il go for Damage add for Elrandhir really.

 

[Righthandof]

i would for for resists as pally

If u got all resists up any player vill hit like a sb

now that would be pretty stupid, as all paladins have the same resisits already without DR... use your chants perhaps with brain, and not just mash the regular 4 buttons.. even with 29 chants, you can get +15% cold resist(the resist needed against the majority of stealthers who use legendaries) without any champion level..

(and btw sbs hit pretty hard when you're a pally, simply cause DW >> shield)

 

[Labello]

Classic server:

Going for buffs on my Inf and might spec last point in heals.
Not much healing but atleast i can use my power pol if i got to a safe spot.

I will go STR/CON line as i am an saracen with high dex:

STR: 26
CON: 26

STR/CON: 30
DEX/QUI: 30

 

[fettoken]

How good will the melee specs become for a pure caster.. as they got high dex whic is good when using staff.

 

[XenX]

lol i just got an image in my head of a wizard killing a paladin in melee

 

[Labello]

How good will the melee specs become for a pure caster.. as they got high dex whic is good when using staff.

Isen't staff 100% Str in meele?

 

[Elrandhir]

Imo you want to try and improve your char making it better, not getting something that will be pointless for the class ;P

Damage add seems fine on Tanks to me getting higher damage output, still this depends if it will be overwritten by wardens damage add I guess, rather pointless then if you don't solo

Still getting anything that improves melee to a mage is a waste imo.. a heal or something sure ;D

 

[Righthandof]

How good will the melee specs become for a pure caster.. as they got high dex whic is good when using staff.

all staves are 100% str fyi.

EXCEPT friar staff, which is dex.

 

[kirennia]

all staves are 100% str fyi.

EXCEPT friar staff, which is dex.

Staves are dex spec I'm 99% sure.....

Anyways, I'm gonna be going for fighter line for my heretic I think

 

[gillan]

Disease on druid and resists on BD but tempted to go ae-disease for bd (ae interupt)

 

[Syri]

all staves are 100% str fyi.

EXCEPT friar staff, which is dex.

ALL staves are 100% dex. friars WERE going to be str, but they made it dex so that casters would be able to get more utility from their staff. though it's still laughable watching a wizzy staff something to death...

 

[adoNix]

My sm is getting resists

 

[Doom]

PD resists stack as usual, as well as the vampiir meleeresist buff.

aom and vampiir magicresist buff is secondary.

 

[Grund]

will get ae snare dd for all my 3 naturalists i think