What makes people rezkill?

[Breni]

Just curious, as I was in Thidranki the other night with some friends. Got nailed, then rezzed....and immediately jumped on by a pair of tincans that took all of 2 seconds to kill my no-rp-yielding fresh-rezness

Can't remember their names, but there's also a Luri NS out there called Poisonis that's quite partial to nailing the freshly-alive.

Not a whine, more of a query...I'm not saying that I haven't killed people worth 0 rps either, but when someone's literally been "battlefield" rezzed, and the nice swirly lights are still circling...

 

[razorboy]

It's just cool to 1shot, especially for the panic that rises then

 

[old.Marabeth]

Same thing that makes everyone target me when I'm the only healer on I expect. Easy targets that significantly weaken the enemies ability to kill them back in the near future.

 

[Aeiedil]

by reskilling it does a few things

1 : wastes enemy mana which would have been used on mezzing\ressing\rooting etc

2 : keeps the fresh-rezed res-sick for longer, and so less effective

3 : if done by an assassin makes the enemy try to find the assasin

 

[c0ngo]

Edit Aeiedils post seems to pretty much covers it.

 

[Anu]

thats why i use meh rez with health spell

 

[Stekkerdoos]

Why not rezz kill??? They are the enemy, they are weak, good target, it's very annoying, and always makes me want to see the face of that hib/mid that just got rezzed

 

[Javai]

I try to avoid it in bgs, could've done it lots of times with my Scout but I basically believe the bgs are for fun not all out war and so I make a personal decision not to grief like that.....besides I had more fun shooting the newly rezzed mates and watching them search for me while I sat quietly stealthed nearby

 

[Celeste_Cross]

I've only done it a coupla times, and thats only for very good reasons, namely my own survival.

Example, I’m sneaking up on some mid/hib healer, identified by the fact that they are rezzing. Now, if they’re a firby/troll, I have enough problems as it is, BUT it is important to take out their rezzers. So, if I were to ignore the newly rezzed and go straight for the rezzer, I would have someone else beating on me right away, and there’s a strong chance I may end up dead. I don’t want that. So, much like with PVE you eliminate the adds first. I don’t have mezz/root/stun, so I one shot them and remain stealthed. That gives the rezzer enough time to say “WTF!?!” before I nail them. No adds, no problem.

As I said, I’ve only done this twice, and I wasn’t exactly happy about doing it, but they’re a threat.

Celeste Cross
<Dead Dragons Society>
lev 24 Inf, excal

 

[soylent green]

Rezsickness lasts for a few minutes, unless your've seen them rezzed, you don't always no there have been just rezzed.
The fact that there sitting down does'nt always mean they have just been rezzed.



Shadowdog. lvl 24. Infiltrator
guildmaster of The Eaters of the Dead.

 

[old.Takahome]

Confusion, V annoying when u successful 1 hit rez kill with a stealther, and waste enemy´s mana and blah blah...

I´d prefer clean out albs like wot I did today afternoon ^_^

Btw hard to c those SBs... that´s why they got 350 too quick? =/

 

[old.¥ØÐÄ]

Imo rez killing is lame . i know its war yada yada yada . but end of the day this game is for fun .

people who constantly rez kill imo shows how weak they are attacking the newly low hp rez'd as aposed to attacking the rezzer "i go for the rezzer not the rez'd" .

its more fun killing the fully healed people in the grp than newly rez'd best fun i had in bg was taking out 1 skald 1 healer 1 rooney and 1 kobby sniper . no rez kills . 1st i killed the rooney . he got rez'd so woulda been LOW on pow . then i killed the skald cos i made sure i had range and was hidden behind a tree . he got rez'd . so rooney and skald low hp . sniper stealthed so i hid behind a tree and killed the healer . thisleft just the sniper and 2 fresh rez'd mids . i knew the sniper would come close to the healer so i stodd near the dead healer waiting and sure enough the mid siper cam close enough for me to see through his stealth hence kill him 2 arrows . still 2 fresh rez'd who i left and then i got ganked around the corner by the inc mids on way to rez the healer and sniper . was much fun and imo lots more fun than ganking fresh rez'd .

 

[old.Takahome]

Wow, that´s a nice one yoda ^_^

Sad noche´s not a sniper >.< and btw any1 of em does /face? Don´t tnk u can 1 shot all of em...

 

[old.Raziel]

Well u dont always know they have just been rezzed, when hibs and mids are fighting and im on my own, i go round behind one of the army and wait for some one to move to the back and try to regen, i then shoot them.

some of these have just had a beating and moved to the back, some of these have been rezzed and moved to the back.
i dont know which so they all targets

and also some times rez sick people attack me, and i kill them, does that make me a lamer rez killer?

 

[Lessurl]

Aeideil explained it perfectly. Especially the eating mana of the rezzers. I've been in many situations when i had to rez the same person umpteen times (one poor mage got killed 5+ times straight after he'd been rezzed) and it seriously drains my mana. It reduces the amount i have to mez or heal people and if there are a lot of dead about or it looks like we are going to have to fall back at some point i will probably switch to playing mana song so i can rez the dead faster. Longer u keep me rezzing the longer my group (assuming i am only bard) is without speed song. So rez killing is weakening the enemy army not just annoying some poor unfortunate who wouldn't be able to do anything much to u due to low pow/health and rez sickness.
If u have just been rezzed the best plan is to retreat to somewhere safe to regen health/mana.

 

[old.Atrox]

aeiedel you coverd most of it...
but surely if I've risked my bum to kill some1 I surely gonna make sure he stays dead aswell
Rezz-kill is a perfect way to distribut chaos

 

[old.FIN]

REZZ KILL= ONLY NOOBS DO IT

 

[Stekkerdoos]

REZZ KILL= ONLY NOOBS DO IT

 

[Aeiedil]

REZZ KILL= ONLY NOOBS DO IT

typical alby response, maybe you would like to try and reason it as bug abuse somehow, its whats done by most people who speak in that sort of tone in a situation when they are trying to start a flame ill make sure to look out for you and rezkill you lots

 

[old.Mick]

rez killing in general rvr i dont have a problem with, in BG i think its a waste of time.

example: couple of weeks ago Hibs were having great fun running to mid owned fort, lots of killing, getting rezzed and having another go... Great fun

then slightly later, groups get wiped apart from a couple of rezzers who come back and start rezzing ppl, plan was to regroup at pk and have another go, rezzers rez a couple of ppl, 2 snipers appear and kill rezzed and healer..... Result all /release and cant be arsed to go back and go exp instead ruined it for everyone, oh and snipers would have got lots moer kills and actual rps if they had waited for us to come back

 

[Breni]

Originally posted by old.Raziel
Well u dont always know they have just been rezzed....
and also some times rez sick people attack me, and i kill them, does that make me a lamer rez killer?

Interesting responses all, but the above needs to read the original post a bit closer...

Originally posted by Breni
I'm not saying that I haven't killed people worth 0 rps either, but when someone's literally been "battlefield" rezzed, and the nice swirly lights are still circling...

I was asking about those people that watch someone get rezzed and then immediately kill them again. I agree with everyone that's said that it's really annoying, because it bloody well is.

Still, I understand all points of view here, and agree with all of them.

Oh, and Raziel...yes, it does

 

[naite]

Well raise killing is usefull for several things
(most of them already explained on this thread)

- Generates confusion
- Keeps the recently raised with raise sickness for a extented period of time
- Great way to find out who are the healers, and make them waste mana.
(with any luck we can get them after they raise someone)

- Since raise killings are most of the time performed by assassin class or scouts, usually what happens is that the assassins of the opposite realm will try to defend their own and thefore won't arrass the ones of our realm.

As u can see raise killing has its purpose, and yes I raise kill
(BG included, since my alt is an inf...why shouldn't i pratice what i will also do in "real" RvR ?)

 

[Slipurson]

i say like this... if there are small armies of 2 (or 3 but mostly 2 if small ) realms fighting we should try to not kill the rezzers and if the dead don't want to die after rezz just release =) u wont die at bindstone (hopefully) no but seriously i try not to rezzkill if small groups fighting but if there is keepraiding or massfighting i shoot at whatever (mostly healerclass/mezzerclass) has low hp to make sure the attacking forces die

and yes i have to raise my stealth can't move 2 steps from group without getting whacked by infils

 

[Breni]

Totally OT, but...

Slip Slipurson LVL46 Warrior <--- Didn't you do the US Style video on Stratics?

 

[Slipurson]

yes thats me =) have some new stuff that i just have to cut together and then i will up some more movies =)

We need more EU Movies from diff events that alliances and Guilds do


so if any Mid-Exc need anything "taped" just give me a shout either PM me here or just ingame

 

[cadiva]

Originally posted by Breni
Totally OT, but...

Slip Slipurson LVL46 Warrior <--- Didn't you do the US Style video on Stratics?

That'll be the one that's really annoying me cos when I get it open I only have the soundtrack (the superb Nightwish) but no blooming pictures!

This is the first movie I've had problems with so if you have a zip file of the original could you PM me Slip please as I'd love to get to see the image?

 

[Lessurl]

Rezkilling happens, fact. So when u rez someone keep them well guarded (shade in the area would be handy). I rezzed a bm in thid the other day, i healed a bit so she could use spd (my heals are crap) and we moved slightly, still in very low health we stopped and kept an eye for people coming from the alb tk. But i was watching our newly rezed and still on very low health bm. (I'd heard that the longer a stealther is in you los the better chance u have of spotting them). Anyway, just as i was expecting i spotted someone stealthed inches from the bm, immediately i shouted them out of stealth (i really miss the insta-dd shout when i go back to my eld) causing them to fail backstab. But they'd still poisoned her, although with a druid a warden and me all healing at the same time she was in no danger of death. The rest of the party fell on the stealther and we had one dead attempted rez killer and one alive...um.. rezzed person. So morale of the story, u don't want people rez killed, then protect your newly undead people.

 

[Breni]

So morale of the story, u don't want people rez killed, then protect your newly undead people.

Aaaahhh! Run away! There's Vampires in Thidranki!

Actually, I agree - people should do more to protect the freshly-resurrected people. Sitting down in any RvR situation is a big no-no (no defensive bonus at all), but unfortunately, when you have around 135 Piety and all the related power that goes with it, regenning without Purity/Song/Whatever is a real pain in the tits.

It's not so bad for tanks - a quick heal and away they go. Casters/Healers all need mana to function (although primary casters can get away with one spell with no mana using Quickcast, every 30 seconds...it ain't all that), and the best way to regen that, AFAIK, is sat on your arse.

Anyhoo, enough waffle!

 

[old.Takahome]

Well... ask davril how he felt about being killed 8 times

In his group, in front of knight commander, from back... well.. I´ve tried all, and only died due to guards + albs coz I used a wrong qb and did BSII instead of PA hehe

Tip: heal up ur just rezzed realm mate and protect him well! Hell smiters use ur PBAOE + PBAOE mez, nothing better than that! It´s damn easy! Much easy than an infil stand inside (shouldn´t it better to stand BEFORE coz 1 hit can only be done with PA???) caster and trying to sync that 4 sec stealth detection and trying to find another stealther!

Reason of rez kill: I hate sorcerers (dunno how to spec, 34 mind or 45 body, sb help plz!!!), and it´s always good to deplete a rezzer´s mana, I don´t want he smites, plain and simple, n00b action? Well judge urself, but in my dictionary downtime on rezzer = huge edge 4 ourside, beside, both main rezzers in thid r healers and clerics, both can CC well, healer V V well while cleric can single stun and pbaoe mez why shouldn´t we rez kill? Myself have been rez killed, though not many times, but sure have suffered from it, and our druid got low on mana, well done stealther, that´s a job done.

 

[soullessminion]

Noche (Sharing with a friend)
Lvl 24 NS (Yes I know u hate me)

Soz have to say after spending almost a weak logged almost non stop in thid, I've never heard of ya to hate you
Though saying that i can count the amount of times ive seen any hibs on 1 hand, I'm sadly realy starting to belive that hibys are but an evil bed time storry made up to scare baby kobolds

! time i did see hibs though I was very inpressed at speed you whiped out the mid survivors, of a fight 2 secs before with albs then proceded to bash down the thid doors (pity albs stole your victory, sad gimps turned up at that keep 5 times that day in large force with no rams. only faced by 2 of us defending)

Anyway just wanted to say OYYY HiBBYS GET YOUR ARSES TO THID AND I DONT MEEN ONLY ! OF YOU!!!!!

Soulless Minion Uber lev 20 Spirit Master (Honest I realy am Uber not realy a gimp class at all)


Ps: ROFL at Adari you spam the dead like crazy even if you didnt kill them, but man i wet myself tonight when I saw you by waters edge neer keep, you coned red so i sent my UBER (must be green if that SM pet) and blasted you few times you were on half life runing. And all i could see on screen was Adari yells for help spam.....