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I think back then they were called zerkers....
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tildson
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Guess you have asked our opponents on prydwen & MLF then.
No? Give me a decent answer how you were thinking then please. Just a lousy accusation and flame? Try finding something original atleast.
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Arnor
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and where is mid/hib's sos and assisting tanks on support with NO chance to peel em off?
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Cuteypie_NP
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1 zerk on that pic and if im not totally wrong its in 1.50 when epics got skins but before 1.52 where style multiplier got doubbled for left-hand axe styles.
nice try though random slan
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Talifer
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You should try mezz it works wonders, SoS is nice but it's not God mode. It's a 30 minute RA that will counter the snare effect of your anytime disease, but that still leaves the 50% healing and reduced weaponskill, this will result in the death of any tanks stood around hitting a healer while SoS is on. Just Perfect Rez the sleign healer/shaman and carry on.
I don't see how cancelling the disease's snare component really affects the outcome of a battle when one side has a 50% healing penalty?
But you just carry on pushing my argument to alb RAs rather than addressing how powerful disease is right now.
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Talifer
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And before 1.51 when Mythic introduced Ground Target spells to counter PBing in rooms, keeps and towers
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tildson
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Good old days before epic-armor came!
Talifer has been around since retail, not really random slan
Anyhow, if ppl enjoy RvR the most and their goal is to get as many RP as possible, why not go for the optimal group?
Talifer has been around since retail, not really random slan
Anyhow, if ppl enjoy RvR the most and their goal is to get as many RP as possible, why not go for the optimal group?
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I think I count as random slan ;p
So 1.50
When did we get cc immunity timers? Or was this still dark age of stungard when mid was at its most overpowered?
So 1.50
When did we get cc immunity timers? Or was this still dark age of stungard when mid was at its most overpowered?
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Cuteypie_NP
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Before SM's had pbae aswell and u will also notice that its only rm's there
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old.krane
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Just noticed this topic...lemme react to the title
what makes NP uber?
wtf said they uber?
ps.: nerf savages
what makes NP uber?
wtf said they uber?
ps.: nerf savages
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Uber - no.
Overpowered Mid classes - yes.
Overpowered Mid classes - yes.
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Melachi-
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I dont know what they are like on excal since i aint got a lvl 50 there, but on pryd NP plays hib and they do very well with them, so i dont think its due to overpowered classes, but a bit of team work and the most lacking thing in random groups: a bit of common bloody sense
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Begach
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We where asked our oppinion, wether you like it or not.
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tildson
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How can you make an opinion on a server which on you dont even play on? I mean, how u can make an opinion on something you dont know?
If u havent met or played with NP on pryd/mlf, how can u make an opinion then?
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BidAccount
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I think what makes NP uber is the fact that they blow each other whilst ganking.
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Talifer
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That's true, but it doesn't really change the point, that being the fact that the albs could do very little in those situations (Ranged nukes back then did more damage than PB does now anyway). The overiding point being that taking advantage of game mechanics does not necessarily equate to skill, I don't see you in that tower very often these days, what's changed? Your skill or the game?
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Gregstah
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WTF?! i aint gonna say noob or such cuz u are..
how can u post about this on BW? omg..
cmon man.. NP played together for like 1 year or more know... they allmost know eachother IRL!
they allmost know what they eat every evening.. and they are sweeds
well NP are the best cuz they know their own class and knows how to use their own class, now like most "f8 /stick anytimes style" that aint good enough... just know how to use ur class and get the best out of it.. and last but not least is that they are having the biggest fun when they gank all the whiners out here.. cuz they know 100% that the whine will be inc either on IRC or BW! if i was NP i would laugh uppon u every night tbh - but no offence! <cant keep the laugh in and it breaks out! MUHHAAHAHA>
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Begach
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I know when i'm getting owned off a class and not a player. That good enough for you?
NP/mid/excal last week 2,485,543 : active members 63 (source duskwave)
NP/hib/pryd last week 623,334 : active members 41 (source duskwave)
LA/hib/excal last week 2,375,885 : active members 31 (source duskwave)
Care to explain why a guild with such skilled players and seemingly more active members than one of our exc/hib guilds seems to ah-sook so bad? Not liking hib dude? Some reason why you prefer mid? What you think?
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np-insane
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Like.. maybe 10 - 15 of those are active in rvr..
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Brylle Madness
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U all hibs and albs know that NP spanks your ass.
Go Nolby, keep up the good work. (start defending mid more plz )
Go Nolby, keep up the good work. (start defending mid more plz
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tildson
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Or maybe its because most NP's are inactive atm! Xanatea, Medde and Xuth (3 top pac's in NP) are all inactive. Kinda funny when u count rp/last week since servers and subpage has been down etc
Do i prefer mid? No, i really dont. I find it very dull and grey. I also have a r4 theurg, 43sorc, 46arms(in progress), r4 ranger, r8 chanter. I had but sold r4 paladin and r6infiltrator. Wow, mid is dead last? You really need to get some more facts before you open your mouth next time.
And yes, LA > NP in most rp/each member last week - how about the last 2 years?
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in my experience from playing wiff them on Prydwen I wouldn't call them better than eclipse at playing hib, but what makes the best the best, is that they play a lot (rvr'ing ofc) basicly the most important feat of a good RvR'er is experience, you don't have to always get an optimal group, but if there's 2 or even 1 "crap" player in the group it ruins it, daoc is a team game that needs 8 players all good and all awake in RvR and simply get more experienced and better that way, usually in my experience there isn't much room to learn in a NP group, and I find it fine, they expect you to play properly (as good as them) and know that a group fail if 1 or 2 spots are filled by incompetent players.Experience in RvR and against all kinds of groups and in different kind of groups is the key to being a good RvR, Nolby was quick to learn how it works which makes them good, but others are just as good, just most players doesn't learn as much from a battle, and thus get less experience.
About RA's sure they help, but any noob can get a high RR, that doesn't make him good if he didn't learn anything while getting there.
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Begach
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Originally posted by tildson
Or maybe its because most NP's are inactive atm! Xanatea, Medde and Xuth (3 top pac's in NP) are all inactive. Kinda funny when u count rp/last week since servers and subpage has been down etc
OK i stand corrected. But i see the stats and see exactly how not you personally (unless your are NP complete) but NP in general are doing here in pryd/hib and can't quite understand if your such uber players and the realm have such balance why the activity/rps doesn't match. Like someone said earlier, you play the strongest classes in the strongest configuration. And for a very long time that has been and looks to always be mid. I can certainly see why most guild activity with regard to RvR is on excal.
Btw in terms of statistics the fact it's been down is irrelevant. It's been down for us all on all servers, not just you so the stats are from a valid slice of time on these servers.
How exactly do you want me to respond here? Nice one for being in the stronger realm? You guy's are good. But so are the mid classes and without them you seem to lack focus and lose interest when not pwning 24/7? Your great, mid classes have nothing to do with it?
I was asked my opinion and you got it. I don't need to justify my opinion any more than you need to justify to BW why your rps/week is down in hib. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, including me.
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im so sick of this all mid is easy mode shit, must be noobs or have very short memory, you're forgetting for a long long time we had no end regen or pbae and shit RA's(well still got shit RA's ) and guess what Nolby were still always right up there.
and so much whine about savages, fact is if you don't use the best tools you got you are fucking stupid, back when we had no end regen and melee was gimped Nolby ran rm groups, remember kallistor, xuthos etc? with resists and BAoD it became more effective to run tank groups with zerks so we did, zerks got nerfed so hello there mr.savage not only cos we want to be "yber" but cos no1 enjoys playing a nerfed class...except Zzang
and why do peeps have to keep comparing how NP do on excal compared with hib/pryd or MLF, you know that doesn't represent all of NP here on excal, I for one have never played pryd or MLF
fact is no matter what bullshit whines you come up with next NP are good players, better than the majority of peeps here on excal, thats not egotism, thats the truth. and you can nerf zerks, or end regen, or savages but we'll still be here, we'll still be pwning you in emain, why? cos we can
) and guess what Nolby were still always right up there.and so much whine about savages, fact is if you don't use the best tools you got you are fucking stupid, back when we had no end regen and melee was gimped Nolby ran rm groups, remember kallistor, xuthos etc? with resists and BAoD it became more effective to run tank groups with zerks so we did, zerks got nerfed so hello there mr.savage
not only cos we want to be "yber" but cos no1 enjoys playing a nerfed class...except Zzang and why do peeps have to keep comparing how NP do on excal compared with hib/pryd or MLF, you know that doesn't represent all of NP here on excal, I for one have never played pryd or MLF
fact is no matter what bullshit whines you come up with next NP are good players, better than the majority of peeps here on excal, thats not egotism, thats the truth. and you can nerf zerks, or end regen, or savages but we'll still be here, we'll still be pwning you in emain, why? cos we can
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My point is that you shouldnt count the skill after the rp/week. And also that i hate being wrong judged/proved, in this case on pryd/mlf, where we also did very good. I agree that mid is easymode since they can compete without using RA's, but i dont like you saying we totally blow on MLF/Pryd without stating any facts.
On Prydwen, the most rp/week guild is PE - but guess what? After our new setup we're beating the crap out of them almost every time. But they play longer and more often than us, hence the more rp. But we still beat them in fg vs fg, are they still better then us for having more rp/week?
And i respec your opinion on Excalibur, Prydwen you didnt mention my bad, but MLF? If you dont there you shouldnt be the man to judge whatsoever, that you must agree on?
On Prydwen, the most rp/week guild is PE - but guess what? After our new setup we're beating the crap out of them almost every time. But they play longer and more often than us, hence the more rp. But we still beat them in fg vs fg, are they still better then us for having more rp/week?
And i respec your opinion on Excalibur, Prydwen you didnt mention my bad, but MLF? If you dont there you shouldnt be the man to judge whatsoever, that you must agree on?
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LA - hib pbae zerg in overpopulated server
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Originally posted by eös
im so sick of this all mid is easy mode shit, must be noobs or have very short memory, you're forgetting for a long long time we had no end regen or pbae and shit RA's(well still got shit RA's
LOL you mean back when mid had the only insta CC in the game and det/sc wasn't introduced to make it useless. Yeah hard times indeed
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dont think so to, its just so much easier for other people to just blame it on that all mid is so fucking overpowred 2tm, and we should actually only be allowed to make 1 man groups
Originally posted by Melachi[Mid]
I dont know what they are like on excal since i aint got a lvl 50 there, but on pryd NP plays hib and they do very well with them, so i dont think its due to overpowered classes, but a bit of team work and the most lacking thing in random groups: a bit of common bloody sense
dont think so to, its just so much easier for other people to just blame it on that all mid is so fucking overpowred 2tm, and we should actually only be allowed to make 1 man groups
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LOL erm group purge, SoS? where were the other strong mid guilds making use of their overpowered insta CC then? name any? no? okOriginally posted by Begach
LOL you mean back when mid had the only insta CC in the game and det/sc wasn't introduced to make it useless. Yeah hard times indeed
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Begach
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Originally posted by eös
LOL erm group purge, SoS? where were the other strong mid guilds making use of their overpowered insta CC then? name any? no? ok
so fucking pathetic
Fact is mate we all know mid have, always did have and seemingly always will have the strongest RvR group config.
Deny more imo!!!!
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