Question Whale Hunting?

[Ch3tan]

When did Trem say that he is against killing animals though? He simply said that he sees no issue with sustainable breeding for food, he does have an issue with killing creatures that we do not breed specifically for that purpose, or hunting animals to the point of extinction. Where does the comfy house bollocks come from?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I didn't say Trem was against killing animals in general. I said he preferred killing one animal over another, exactly what i was saying earlier.

Also look for Trems "high and mighty in a brickhouse" point earlier. It's easy to judge people when you're part of those people.

I said it earlier, i'll say it again;

All the same, wanting to get rid of one species or the other, killing one animal for food or killing the other.

Only thing that comes to play is people having some opinion or the cute/cool factor of an animal.

People say; "You're not the ruler of this world", while trying to save a beached whale.

If that's not messing with nature, what is?

NOT to mention, it's easy to judge whaling when you're living in central london and the most hunting you do is to keep your wife from the shoestore while you grab a frozen cow-arse from the store. Whalers can't do an anything else to support the family at times and many palces where whaling is done, it's the main food source (like we have cows).

 

[Trem]

When did Trem say that he is against killing animals though? He simply said that he sees no issue with sustainable breeding for food, he does have an issue with killing creatures that we do not breed specifically for that purpose, or hunting animals to the point of extinction. Where does the comfy house bollocks come from?

Exactly, I can't actually tell what tohtori said seeing as he is on my ignore list

Funny though I thought he said he was done with this thread, you know in that arrogant way of his "its over when I decide and no one else!!!"

 

[old.Tohtori]

Exactly, I can't actually tell what tohtori said seeing as he is on my ignore list

Funny though I thought he said he was done with this thread, you know in that arrogant way of his "its over when I decide and no one else!!!"

Funny, i never said i'm done with the thread. Oh gee...

Funny again, i never said what Ch3tan claimed. Ladidaa.

Want some more cop-out soup?

Another person who doesn't know the meaning of ignore...

 

[tris-]

he siad you live in central london and you buy frozen cow arses.

 

[Trem]

he siad you live in central london and you buy frozen cow arses.

How dare he!

My cow arses are fresh.

 

[Yoni]

Have you never tried Wasp milk?


Also i agree with Yoni, whales are totally rubbish for going water skiing with

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhahahah thank you Jamie I needed to laugh this morning!

 

[Yoni]

I don't approve of any animal put through hell however I do eat meat. I do like some guarantee that the time they have spent on earth is comfortable.

It plays on my conscience quite a lot which is why for the majority I try not to eat anything that isn't organically produced, not just in what they are fed but their backgrounds as well. Since I have moved to the Netherlands this is more difficult as they do not put the origin of the food on the packaging, whilst in the UK for the most part on meat they do if you go to the right shops.

It helps that I have never been a big meat eater (no puns) and for the majority of my childhood the idea of meat was abhorrent. To this day I cant deal with bones or skin in my food and if I find a tube or worse then I can't eat any more of it....

Watching some of my family sucking the spinal cord out of a lamb chop makes me physically wretch..... especially as they think they have a look of absolute glee on their faces like they have won some kind of prize URGH.

In my warped mind killing whales for fun, like killing anything for fun is just wrong end of and effects the environment we live in, just as factory farming and feeding animals on polluted feed does.

Although I am a fan or organics, it also concerns me that the rules are not being followed although they go through checks I have seen programmes / read articles where it has been proven that standards are sometimes given out incorrectly..... so all we can all do as individuals who care about our environments is do our bit to ensure that the food we are eating does come from environmentally friendly sources to the best of our abilities.

 

[Zenith]

I like how people try to wind other people up by going with the traditional "Two wrongs makes a right" kind of thinking. While one can argue that killing animals all together is wrong, I dont think anyone could argue that killing animals with the kind abusive, dreadful and savage ways most ( or some, I dont know it is at this very moment ) whales die from. Two wrongs doesnt make a right, while killing cattle the way that can viewed in movies like Meet Your Meat is not right, it is kind of another argument than Whale Hunting.

 

[rynnor]

While one can argue that killing animals all together is wrong, I dont think anyone could argue that killing animals with the kind abusive, dreadful and savage ways most ( or some, I dont know it is at this very moment ) whales die from. Two wrongs doesnt make a right, while killing cattle the way that can viewed in movies like Meet Your Meat is not right, it is kind of another argument than Whale Hunting.

In Commercial Whaling Whales are killed with explosive harpoons - they may be big but an explosive harpoon generally kills them instantaneously so its pretty comparable to the death an animal in a slaughterhouse would suffer.

This is considerably better than the death of a hunted deer for example but for some reason theres not a huge campaign about that.

I find it odd you think presenting a piece of reasoned arguement is an attempt to wind people up - its just a discussion?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I like how people try to wind other people up by going with the traditional "Two wrongs makes a right" kind of thinking. While one can argue that killing animals all together is wrong, I dont think anyone could argue that killing animals with the kind abusive, dreadful and savage ways most ( or some, I dont know it is at this very moment ) whales die from. Two wrongs doesnt make a right, while killing cattle the way that can viewed in movies like Meet Your Meat is not right, it is kind of another argument than Whale Hunting.

If i took the regular path of internet discussion here, i think i'd say...

*thinks*

Why would the suffering, or there lack of, of an animal be the justification for killing one? Surely, killing is killing as it's the eventual ending for it.

Is it ok to kill something as long as they don't suffer?

 

[Zenith]

In Commercial Whaling Whales are killed with explosive harpoons - they may be big but an explosive harpoon generally kills them instantaneously so its pretty comparable to the death an animal in a slaughterhouse would suffer.

This is considerably better than the death of a hunted deer for example but for some reason theres not a huge campaign about that.

I find it odd you think presenting a piece of reasoned arguement is an attempt to wind people up - its just a discussion?

They are supposed to use explosive harpoons, which is not always the case, since they are, ofcourse, a bunch more expensive than more primative equipment. Cant dig it up now since Im supposed to study, but I know for a fact a lot of cases the whales suffer a f*****g disaster of a death due to normal harpoons, due to being active in different Greenpeace operations.

To Toht: I am, in most cases, against whale hunting in the first place, as I am for most other animals, but if I would to answer your question: I would say that killing an animal that is not bred by us humans for eating, like cattle, whom is not running around free as in the case of wolfs or most deers, is not OK, its wrong. To kill it in a way that would bring the animal through much suffering, is not only wrong but evil.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I would say that killing an animal that is not bred by us humans for eating, like cattle, whom is not running around free as in the case of wolfs or most deers, is not OK, its wrong. To kill it in a way that would bring the animal through much suffering, is not only wrong but evil.

I guess native americans were evil, what with the buffalo and all.

Guess those evil africans hunting meat are evil too.

Fishing with your son? No! Satan himself!

Get the point?

I'd say it's more evil to put living beings in cages and fattening them up for the sole purpose of eating them is the evil bit and less natural then bunnies on speed.

 

[rynnor]

Cant dig it up now since Im supposed to study, but I know for a fact a lot of cases the whales suffer a f*****g disaster of a death due to normal harpoons, due to being active in different Greenpeace operations.

I presume you mean leafleting when you talk of 'being active in different Greenpeace operations.'.

Interestingly one of the area's that doesnt use explosives are the Innuit people who are not banned from Whale hunting because they have little impact on whale numbers.

Surely they show that managing Whale hunting is not impossible as some have said?

 

[rynnor]

I'd say it's more evil to put living beings in cages and fattening them up for the sole purpose of eating them is the evil bit and less natural then bunnies on speed.

Yes - white veal is a particularly miserable example or those Geese force fed to enlarge their livers.

The obvious question is why do people spend more to buy free range eggs - its because people like to think their food had a decent naturalistic life.

I'd rather eat Whale than veal.

 

[Zenith]

Nah, I didnt do leaflets for Greenpeace. I did some administration work at their place in Stockholm, and got to see a massive amount of their research and campaigns.

The one thing that so major about the whale is that massive amount of the whalespecies are decreasing in numbers. Not so fast as they used to, but still decreasing. And they are a highly valued piece of the ocean natural life and ecosystem. Which is enough for me to stay clear from hunting or eating whale.

 

[taB]

The problem with Whales is that I don't have a large enough pan to fit one in.

In all honesty I was relieved to see that this thread wasn't about me and my past beer goggle antics.

 

[rynnor]

The problem with Whales is that I don't have a large enough pan to fit one in.

In all honesty I was relieved to see that this thread wasn't about me and my past beer goggle antics.

Lol - I wonder what they taste like - pork or beef?

 

[Zenith]

Fish?

 

[DaGaffer]

Fish?

Since they're not fish, that seems unlikely. Although swan tastes like fish.





















I'm told.