Well wasn't today Interesting :)

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old.Bubble

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2 Zone Crash's
Massive Lag
2 Uber Guard pops one after the other
and Thanes Hammers


as much as i had fun...knowing that theres a High chance the zones going to crash if you bring an army anywhere sucks...

Gratz to SOTL who orgained today and failed to count the ammount of ram parts we needed :p Good job guys and Nilo for leading.

Also Gratz to the Mids who were defending.

Oh gratz to the Hibs too for taking DC while we were attacking LOL, at least something was achieved


At least one thing is clear-

Albs are still in the Game
 
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DeSlisser

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Grrr didnt fail to count them :) Had one ram on me. But couldnt log back in with my main :(

Still cant by the way
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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all GOA's fault and that qweighs whatshisname for taking the relic:rolleyes:
but now we know we can
 
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old.Bubble

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Its not really the scouts fault he took and exp death from a bugged fall- the Planned relic carryer could have done the same.

Don't use this poor guy as a scapgoat
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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he picked up the relic, noone were to pick up the relic, yes it was his fault death or not, he never should have had that relic
 
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old.mattshanes

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the why ppl went ld is the graphics engine cant handle that much ppl lol.
 
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Krillin

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i felt extremely dejected after the raid because we worked so damn hard to get it. 2 zone crashes which resulted in a fragmented army twice. got the doors down and because of players still locked out didn't have ram for final door. Finally break through and then all hell broke out because the relic was gone. No idea what had happened and still not sure but to be honest i feel like appealing or just quitting the game, not sure which one to do because RvR is unplayable. Lagged to hell and crashes when a decent army appears :rolleyes:

hats off to both other realms for making it interesting, i'll leave the flames for server conditions to some one else, other than to say if we hadn't had 2 we would now have the relic back
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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the guy with the other ram parts couldnt log in due to the crash :(
 
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old.What Wobbler

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I think we have a strong case for appealing.

First the servers crashed which destroyed our element of surprise and fragmented our attack force.

Then (rightly or wrongly) the guy who had the relic suffered a bug at MG which is why he lost the relic. Chances are, he would have got it to PK otherwise. Rumor has it he fell through the wall, certainly the Relic was not retreivable because it was stuck inside the wall.

I would like GOA to investigate and find out whether this information is correct. If so, award the Relic to Albion. There is precedent for this. GOA should take Relic attempts seriously as they are central to the ethos of the game.
 
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old.Revz

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There is no case for appealing, we lost the relic because some idiots in this realm have sticky fingers and can't follow a simple order. Read our front page for a brief writeup and screenshots :

http://www.servantsofthelake.org/

Basically one idiot picked up the relic when he shouldn't have even been in the tower, got himself killed and then didn't tell anyone where the relic was.
 
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old.HiredGoon

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Revz, be fair and sensible please. Why do you think the relic timed out instead of being picked up again? Had the bearer just been killed, it would be found within minutes, by either a mid or an alb. Teh reason it DIDNT tho, was that it was stuck in a wall, after a bug. Dont judge people too hastily. He might in fact have made it out. who knows. and yes. it was poor timing to take it, and, as you say, Disobeying an Order. As much as i may or may not agree with your definition of this, the fact remains, that the relic was inretrievable, and therefore, worthy of an appeal.

Know your facts, please.
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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the point is the he didnt have ANYTHING to do up there, and the fact the he PICKED UP THE DAMN RELIC IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!
He made the mistake, and even if he died due to lag or whatever the relic would not be in a damn wall if he had stayed away like he was supposed to!!!
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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:rolleyes:
sure you didnt pay him to do it?
 
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Qwegji-

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Yes. it was me :(

I have now excuse for that insanely stupid act but will say a little something anyway.

After all the excitement of getting so far and the panic when mids came. When the door opened all I could think was keep the relic from the mids. I had pressed tab before this to remove some of the windows to try increase fps performance. I did not see the orders till I was dead and turn it back on to see how things were going. After getting the relic, I started down the ramp. fell thru the wall and landed next to the 3rd door. I died instantly, scolling up thru the msgs I took a screen shot of my dmg taken. it was over a billion damage from the fall(fall damage bug). Not having alliance chat I could not tell everyone where it was. As I was typing to tell guildies, the spams started coming in(30+ /sends from ppl and guild chat). Mainly insults but the ones asking if I took it and where it was I managed to reply to most of the important ones.

And just to show I was not the only one to make a big mistake heres Teaspoons thread who basicly after the first crash told the mids we were going for a relic.

http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?threadid=23028

This was my fault and not my guilds. I do not want anyone to think bad of such a good guild.

EDIT: I am also sorry for wasteing around 3 hours of over 200 ppls time. And also sorry to Nilo and the others who organised and ran things so well.
 
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old.Revz

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Tell you what, get back to me when you were actually there.

I got up to the relic tower, double clicked the relic and thought I had it. Checked my inventory and I didn't. I then screamed on guild chat that someone else has it. After all hell had broken lose for about 30 seconds I got onto alliance chat, broadcast and yell to ask who had it. No response.

We all ran around asking who on earth had it. No one knew where it was, the only person who did was the idiot carrying it.

We got wiped out at the keep and all returned to binds. Whilst I was riding a horse back to Sauvage I scrolled ALL the way back up to find out who had picked it up and found out it was Qwegji. I went nuts on alliance chat asking where he had dropped it and lo and behold he messages me EVENTUALLY about where he died.

He ONLY told me where it had dropped once I knew who had taken it and named him. Even then he didn't say it was IN the floor, just that it was by the third keep door. The facts remain :

  • He should NOT have picked it up.
  • When he picked it up I was stood right next to him so he could have handed it over but he didn't.
  • There was a several minute gap between him dying and actually telling us where it was. In that time we got totally wiped out by the Mids.
  • He only told us where it was once I found out it was HIM anyway.

The fact that it dropped into the floor is immaterial because by the time we knew that it was too late because we had been wiped out by the Mids.
 
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carrot head

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nope we didnt pay him out.

had we bribed someone we would have been forwarned and crushed your forces outside the keep thus saving us having to rebuild our nice doors.

Good try Albies full marks.

No marks to goa whos servers cant handle a decent fight.

o and no marks to the hibs.....

Im not going to say why but lets just say thay messed up badly.

heheheheheheheheheheheeeeee
 
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old.dwyte

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at least someone actually went for the damn thing instead of standing trying to fight off guards and middie defenders, give the guy some damn credit for trying, just because YOU never got your grubby fingers on it!

if no one went for the relic it wouldnt have even moved, order or no order i think he did the right thing, it was a damn mess in there and at least he had some initiative!
you saying you could have done better? through 20+ mids and a crap load of guards? hah like to see you try

ok opinions aside we should have it back, if not for the crashes... placing blame on 1 person alone i think is a bit childish, just my opinon and flame me if you want to :D
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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dwyte try to read what revz posted..
he was going for it but qwe got it before him because he panicked
 
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carrot head

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I say give the albs thear scabbard.

well have u seen it, (I guess most albs havenot) its a pathetic looking skabby relick.

Give it back to em I say reward the effort.... Its not as if we wouldent be aible to get it back any time we wanted. :D
 
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old.Revz

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I was up there *trying* to pick it up. He must have gotten to it about 1 second before I did. My mouse double clicked the scabbard just as it dissappeared, having scrolled back up I even got the message :

You have an invalid target!
You must have a target to get something!
Click to expand...

This is part of the reason I am so incensed, had it been one second later I would have gotten my "grubby fingers" on it. And as for doing better I made it out of the tower alive, went back in to double check the relic wasn't there, went outside the keep again, back inside and finally got killed underneath the portcullis. Without all that hesitation I'm pretty certain it would have been a little further away and certainly not lodged in the floor.
 
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old.Bubble

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guys again backoff the flames
its not anyones fault about what happened today

if anyone its GOA's Servers for the zone crashing giving the mids and extra 30mins to get mobilised


it was a good try

hope the whole of the SOTL don't feel the same way as u 2
 
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Orin Askhammare

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What would have happened now is all speculation now tbh. All I know from a middie point of view is that forces were already being routed to the AMG in Odin's while you were still whacking on the doors. I happened to be at the AMG when the call came out and by the time you would have reached the MG a big army would already have been there.

Still you could have broken through, or maybe not. We'll never know now. Full marks to the Albs (in general then) though it was a very impressive raid. We middies have been waiting for this a long time and heck in a month the tables might be turned. More fun to be had for everyone!
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Bubble when I waste alot of my time and a raid fail due to two jerks I become somwhat frustrated..dont know about you
 
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[TNN]Aardvark

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Originally posted by Bubble
guys again backoff the flames
its not anyones fault about what happened today
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I'd say the fault lies with 3, GOA, TeaSpoon and Qwegji. This is just what most people in albion have been saying, people never listen. If this had been a mid raid, I highly doubt anyone other than the assigned carriers would have picked up the relic, because mid ppl appear to have BRAINS.
 
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old.dwyte

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i did read them and frankly i'm ashamed i went, if this is the state people get into becuase we didnt succeed.

remember guys the relic is just an icon in your inventory. we will get it back, you think all orders should be followed without question? go play unreal tourny.

just wondering if he didnt pick it up, and you did, and you fell and it got bugged, there wouldnt be all this crap. i wonder if others would be on here screaming like girlies near a spider at you?

face it from the 1st crash we where doomed to fail, we had teaspoon's post alerting the mids of our attack, then the second LD.
you call qwegji a retard (yes i read your site) i call him a hero!

you cannot pile the blame on him alone, i mean shit where were you when we defending against the mids huh? if you are so uber you woulda been down in the dirt with the rest of us. you cant use him as a scapegoat, WE failed simple as that accept it and move on.
 
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Adelle

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Right, I think we just need to calm down a little

I understand that many are upset, but calling some a idiot and moron will not help a single bit. Qwegji (I salute you for posting here - very brave!) makes it clear in his post that he knew he made a big misstake, and is sorry for it. It's true that he should not have picked up the Relic, but he is not alone to blame. Who knows how things would have worked out if the server hadn't crashed twice, or if Qwegji hadn't died from a fall bug.

And even if our ultimate goal with the Relic raid (to get the Relic back, duh) was not realised, I had a lot of fun tonight (except for the waiting at the Portal Keep - a problem at every large organised RvR it seems). And isn't that really all that matters? This is, after all, just a game...
 
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Adelle

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They do work - you just need to copy & paste the URLs rather than click the links directly, since Geocities does not allow linking from the outside.
 
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