Well done Hib and Mid!

TheBinarySurfer

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Aye was a fun one vidx, lots of chaos and good play from both sides.

Oh and puppet dont knock her until youve played with her :p

Oh and as for the running 2fg/zerg puppet - After the zerg in Hibernias Wall tonight, ALL night, lets hear less of it from you and your realm in the way of addwhine/zergwhine? Ive run 2fg for maybe 5 hours total in the last month, rest of it ive been in a fg <ponder>

Hello Kettle, im Pot,guess what - YOURE BLACK!!!
 

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"But Albs do zerg, and Albs own all relics and keeps in all realm and Albs wtfpwn us with their easy mode and that's why we decided to group up with our fellow Middies/Hibbies."

Hahahahahaha...

Of course, no Alb has been steam rolled by any group of Hibs / Mids so far and zerging is only an issue in Albion.

How can you use the argument of zerging which is common in all realms to justify what the original poster said?

Moronic, sorry, but after reading this crap here, it's time to take the keeps back.

You can have such a lameness at Brynja Bridge or somewhere in Hibland, but keep it out of Albion please.
 

Andrilyn

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Puppet said:
If she dont use spreadheal much I think we got the reason there why we see you running as 2FG so much lately :clap:

:wij:

Unlike some Hib Druids (wont mention names) I know which heal to use other then standing in a FoP spreading like no tomorrow.
 

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Andrilyn said:
Unlike some Hib Druids (wont mention names) I know which heal to use other then standing in a FoP spreading like no tomorrow.
Heal me next time then! :(
 

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Gamah said:
It seems you can't take a bit of light banter without getting all serious :( , yea yor a BM, believe it or not minstrel don't do well vs frontloaders be it bm's mercs or zerkers (although zerkers are the easist) I'm sorry you can't take a bit of light hearted fun :/ bet you and friera make vent a right laugh.

Yes Xianghua is a strong BM ...very strong one :m00:
 

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Andrilyn said:
Unlike some Hib Druids (wont mention names) I know which heal to use other then standing in a FoP spreading like no tomorrow.

Awwww, Ramble be upset you not mention him though.
 

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Andrilyn said:
Unlike some Hib Druids (wont mention names) I know which heal to use other then standing in a FoP spreading like no tomorrow.

;) Was a joke but ah well..

Since the new patch the spec-major heal is alot faster to cast nowadays; thats a plus. The normal-spec heal is very mana-efficient; but slow cast and only heals for about 525 iirc (on my druid; numbers might be slightly different on clerics; since clerics get slightly better heals iirc).

Spreadheal is quite heavy on the mana; but if I compare spreadheal = 95 mana (I got the 39 SH) and the 1st SH is 79mana.

My major heal is 86 mana cost (basically same as a Spreadheal) and my Spreadheal heals for more in a FG if only 1 is damaged too (but slower now obviously). If 2 are damaged its a no-brainer; 1 SH will heal both for a good 780 faster then 2 major heals with less cast-time totally (and less mana-cost).

Spreadheal is best choice if the enemy has no tight-assist-train. If there's a really good assist-train you better off using Single-target heals. Most Albs dont have 2 charge-tanks in the group who stick together and assist properly. So you get 2-3 tanks doing damage to 2-3 people in your group. Spreadheal roxor then :p
 

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On the same note, spec group heals are now a viable alternative to spreadheals (depending on the situation); my L34 one heals for 330+ per group member on a 2.2 delve cast speed for the same mana cost as spreadheal (this is on an RR2 Druid, btw). Useful for when lots of people in the group are taking damage.
 

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was fun last night...i was in UP grp an night with my lvl 42 heretic when i saw PE pbuck squad was out...thought ok someting is about to happen...10 min later i saw 4-5 spam kills from pbuck and thought...now the fun begins when the big alb gank grps is back...and maybe the spirit of Alb RvR will increase!

tba we need more fgs out in RvR and we need to be more orginized in RvR or we will end up getting farmed....its not fun when u encounter high RR gank grps and die before getting 1 spell of (nerf hib stun and AE spamming healers) :p
 

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Puppet said:
If there's a really good assist-train you better off using Single-target heals. Most Albs dont have 2 charge-tanks in the group who stick together and assist properly. So you get 2-3 tanks doing damage to 2-3 people in your group. Spreadheal roxor then :p

and there is de secret of maelstrom's success
 

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Jupiter said:
and there is de secret of maelstrom's success

The secret of Maelstroms success was Joor's healing more than anything else. Zerach made savages look balanced.
 

Luz

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last two times I´ve ran into Maelstrom there´s 10 mids instead of 8.

that helps to? :kissit:
 

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Puppet said:
;) Was a joke but ah well..

Since the new patch the spec-major heal is alot faster to cast nowadays; thats a plus. The normal-spec heal is very mana-efficient; but slow cast and only heals for about 525 iirc (on my druid; numbers might be slightly different on clerics; since clerics get slightly better heals iirc).

Spreadheal is quite heavy on the mana; but if I compare spreadheal = 95 mana (I got the 39 SH) and the 1st SH is 79mana.

My major heal is 86 mana cost (basically same as a Spreadheal) and my Spreadheal heals for more in a FG if only 1 is damaged too (but slower now obviously). If 2 are damaged its a no-brainer; 1 SH will heal both for a good 780 faster then 2 major heals with less cast-time totally (and less mana-cost).

Spreadheal is best choice if the enemy has no tight-assist-train. If there's a really good assist-train you better off using Single-target heals. Most Albs dont have 2 charge-tanks in the group who stick together and assist properly. So you get 2-3 tanks doing damage to 2-3 people in your group. Spreadheal roxor then :p

Only time I find spreadheal viable is when:
A) Your group is diseased and taking damage and you have no time to cure disease (spreadheal doesn't get affected by disease).
B) You dont have LoS of many of your targets (keep fight or something) and/or many people taking damage.

Other then that I hardly see why I should use spreadheal but sure there are a few more exceptions, I have 388 dex buffed which is quite much for a Briton Cleric and my spec heals cast rather fast (Both the major and the greater) and my biggest spec heal heals for close to 900 hp without crit and without relics (seeing as heals can get a 100% crit instead of nukes which only get a 50% crit max in RvR).
These days people also get nuked down in like 2 secs due to insane cast speed from casters and their insane damage and because they also assist and the only way to deal with that insane damage is to let DI take the first 2 secs of damage while you start chain spamming your spec heals on the target, spreadheal doesn't cut it, it cast slow, heals for a really crappy amount if only 1 person is getting hit and takes a big blow out of your mana pool (only have 31% powerpool bonus on my Cleric).

It might just be my experience from playing with crap clerics that spam spreadheal once the fight start and scream "oop!" 5 seconds after but I just prefer to use spec heals which also resort me in having 50% power left after a fight instead of being oop after or in every fight which I can use to stun/shear/rez people and only having to spend RA points for MCL2 which is all I ever need unlike spreadspammers who normally have MCL3 RP3 etc I find that a waste of RA points as you don't need them at all if you know what heal to use and when to use it.

But then again I think it is just the way people prefer to play, if it works for you keep on doing it as my way of healing works excellent for me and I couldn't think of respeccing to the current fotm spec what seems to be 44 enh rest rej as I just like big single target heals too much as I saved so many people with them.
 

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Belomar said:
On the same note, spec group heals are now a viable alternative to spreadheals (depending on the situation); my L34 one heals for 330+ per group member on a 2.2 delve cast speed for the same mana cost as spreadheal (this is on an RR2 Druid, btw). Useful for when lots of people in the group are taking damage.
I wanted to say this as well. :) Checked it a few days ago and in some situation its better than spreadheal for less mana (82 vs 95). But I still miss the chance to choose lower lvl spells from spell list like the cloth casters (lvl 30 spread over 39 in some situation).
 

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Killerbee said:
I wanted to say this as well. :) Checked it a few days ago and in some situation its better than spreadheal for less mana (82 vs 95). But I still miss the chance to choose lower lvl spells from spell list like the cloth casters (lvl 30 spread over 39 in some situation).

You can do that now already, atleast I have both the level 30 and the level 39 spread on my Quickbars, but it doesn't work for groupheals though I think (never checked).
 

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