Weights questions?!

Steffan-

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No Black, i don't use it either. Once tried a protein-bar after a hard training, because I were starving, couldn't eat anything and felt so damn nasty inside for a hole day oO Figured that just couldn't be healthy.
 

Ezteq

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bah all the men out here want to put on weight, i would like to change my shape without losing weight (or lose a little but convert most of it to muscle without turning in to a weed at least) so seeing as your all so hip to whats good and whats not and without becoming a total thread jacker i'll hide all the waffle in a spoiler. can someone help me?

i'll post some personal details and please no one laugh or call me tubby or anything because im actually quite happy with my weight its just when i broke my hand i couldnt do much and got out of shape. and the gyms out because i cant afford it, i still have a good amount of arm/leg muscle but its protected in a layer of fat lol so the limbs need help and my stomach needs work so i think im after definaition and gaining muscle & toning more than losing weight (i was really thin years ago and i hated it i felt so feeble and frail).

I'm 5 foot (no more no less) and weigh 11 and a half stone last time i got weighed was about 3/4 weeks ago and am 26 yrs old if you need to know, i cant swim (unless you count doggy paddle) and when i run i tend to waddle and keel over from a stitch, but im willing to practice if anyone thinks it necassary, any type of floor work is good but i just know the basics and thats that.

so if anyone can help i'd really appreciate it, thanks for taking the time to read btw.
 

Konah

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do pressups, on your knees cos u can push yourself further, will give the "triangular" upper body. place hands inline with your shoulders, go down to 1cm from the floor with each one. breathing: in thru the nose, out thru the mouth, in on the way down, out on the way up. try varying hand placement somedays, either inline with head or inline with chest or wide placement (this hurts :p) do as many as you can+1

free weights, ~30 reps: put on enough weight that the last 5-10 are a struggle

pullups - arm straight at your side pull vertically on weight as high as u can, lower slowly, repeat

bicep curls - dont think this one needs description but remember not to rush in either direction and lock your shoulder.

vertical lifts - the opposite of the pullup, start with weight on shoulder, press vertially to max and return slowly

if u got a benchpress bar do some if u like but it basically works same muscles as pressups so.

the above regime builds fast, powerful well defined muscle. but remember to do some stretching exercises after, to stop you getting "muscle bound".
 

Vladamir

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Konah said:
do pressups, on your knees cos u can push yourself further,

Also puts less pressure on them so you won't build as much mass.
 

Konah

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Vladamir said:
puts less pressure on them

which is compenstated by being able to do more... (without straining your back)
 

Vladamir

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Konah said:
which is compenstated by being able to do more... (without straining your back)

Err, its not at all compensated :p

Doing more doesn't equate to doing less at a lower weight. Thats why you go for big gains in your lifts. You don't say "I did 10,000 reps on this 1kg", you say "I got up to 30kg on my last leg of curls".

High reps/Low weight = definition, low reps/high weight = mass
 

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Vladamir said:
High reps/Low weight = definition, low reps/high weight = mass

High reps/Low weight = fast usful muscle, low reps/high weight = useless slow beach poser/bodybuilder muscle :)
 

Naetha

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Hiya Ez - ignore these other blokes for a few mins ;) ...

I'm 5'8, pushing 14 stone and just recovering from a nasty illness, so about as fit as a brick at the moment. Oh, and I'm a girl too.

I really want to get fit for the summer, and although I'm a member of a gym, I'm doing a couple of other things to get fit and lose a bit of weight as well. My rules for this are:

1) Set yourself a realistic target. Have a look here and find out what weight you should be. Then set a target of losing at first 1lb/half a kilo a week then upping it to 2lbs/1kilo a week once you get fitter and are able to do more. Its often easier to set weight targets than fitness targets as its much easier to measure your weight and see a noticeable difference than say your resting heart beat.

2) Try and do little and often. If you're pushed for time and can only manage 15 minutes a day, then thats fine - its better to do 15 minutes a day 5 days a week then 2 hours every 2 weeks.

As for activities to do, then you can try virtually anything. Personally I'd recommend joining a martial arts club if you have any interest in hitting things at all. Its great fun, good for your self confidence, great for fitness, you make new friends and you learn some great stunts to break the ice (literally) at parties. Tae Kwon Do Karate Judo.

Other than that (which is my strongest recommendation) I'd try walking more - never take the lift, if the journey is less than a mile and you have a bit of time to spare, always walk it. Try getting a skipping rope and skipping while you're watching TV (not recommended if you have pets though - I nearly decapitated my cats by doing this once).

If you're like me and have huge bazoongas, then running is just a complete no-no, however, investing in a good sports bra does absolute wonders, and if you can start to jog or run, this is really really good for you :)

Depending on where you live a bike can be a good idea - I don't ride mine much in Leeds, partly because its not a bike-friendly city, and I have a high chance of getting run over, but also because its so damn hilly, and I kill myself before I've even started. If you live in a flattish area though, or close to the countryside or somewhere with decent bike lanes/trails then its a great idea, although trust me your arse will hurt.

If you can get a training partner as well, thats great - can be your feller, a work friend, whoever, but its great to have someone to keep you going when you want to give up and vice versa. Its also nice to have a bit of rivalry as well - see who can achieve their targets the best.

Hum my brain is empty now I think - just do what you can basically, set achievable targets, and go get them :)
 

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i dont altogether trust those charts. being conservative in my picking i apparently need to still lose around 4 stone.
these charts dont count in muscle for a start. they just say weigh this or that. ive had doctors asking me do i play rugby because my leg muscles are so fantastically huge. but i dont. i dont know how much they weigh but im guessing a fair amount of my overall weight.

i cant imagine my self weighin 13 stone, ever. its rediculous.
 

Ezteq

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Thanks Naetha excellant tips there, though the bike one i had but some bastard ripped me drain pipe off in order to steal it (humph!!) will remember your skipping advice rofl dont want to behead me guinea pigs lol.
 

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Ezteq said:
bah all the men out here want to put on weight, i would like to change my shape without losing weight (or lose a little but convert most of it to muscle without turning in to a weed at least) so seeing as your all so hip to whats good and whats not and without becoming a total thread jacker i'll hide all the waffle in a spoiler. can someone help me?

i'll post some personal details and please no one laugh or call me tubby or anything because im actually quite happy with my weight its just when i broke my hand i couldnt do much and got out of shape. and the gyms out because i cant afford it, i still have a good amount of arm/leg muscle but its protected in a layer of fat lol so the limbs need help and my stomach needs work so i think im after definaition and gaining muscle & toning more than losing weight (i was really thin years ago and i hated it i felt so feeble and frail).

I'm 5 foot (no more no less) and weigh 11 and a half stone last time i got weighed was about 3/4 weeks ago and am 26 yrs old if you need to know, i cant swim (unless you count doggy paddle) and when i run i tend to waddle and keel over from a stitch, but im willing to practice if anyone thinks it necassary, any type of floor work is good but i just know the basics and thats that.

so if anyone can help i'd really appreciate it, thanks for taking the time to read btw.
i think crunches would help tone you up a bit an also some aerobics stuff might help...with the legs an stuff and just watching what you eat can go a real long way...i'm gonna start training hard soon but ive started out just eatin real low fat stuff an slow carbs....an ive lost like 4lb since sunday...
 

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