weapon craft % master pieces

[bonna]

well, what can i say, bit of a piss take if u ask me , for the amount of time and retires it takes for 1.
dont get me wrong u get freak mp made after say 4 tries, dont happen alot tho , normaly its like 100+ tries..7p + the mp charge of 1.2p..8.2p ..ouch, insane amount.( at least i think so)
but any how.
from the weekend coming ill craft MP for thos who ask. atm i took a list down to what peeps want , in hopes for a random make = a very cheap mp. sorry not any more.
mp will be like every thing else, done per retry.
a Mp will be 15X the retry rate.
price i.e
94%-98% sabre = 271g with 67g per retry. (normal rate)
99% sabre = 608g with 67g per retry.(5x retry)
100% sabre = 1p 283g with 67g per retry.(15x retry)
for MP im going to ask this that 5p is paid upfront. any funds not used will ofc be returned
the reason i ask this , coz i get some guys ask for a mp , have 2p to spend.. witch more then likely wont happen, they get a 99%
witch ofc lowers the price.
as some aint that smart ill explain.
1.2p for MP b4 anything. retries will begin, 11 retires later 2p 25g is spent , if no 100%, and only a 99% is got , then charge wud be 1p 350g... some peeps hear this and think ah i have money to spead still.. can u retry again plz ... well no as 10 tries wud be added to what ever cost was if a MP was done.coz lets say i do this , price goes from 1p 350g to 1p 822g and i got a MP (7 more retries) now add 945g (10 retries) = 2 p 767g
this confusing bit is for those who thinkt hey have more money then they really do . and i bet none understand what i have out here
i have a list of some weapons already , ill msg each person on the list, and add any new 1`s at the bottom , tho u wil have to wait for me to msg u, no funds will have to be passed till then

plz dont think this is a 5min job , this wil take a long time sadly , i have about 30 orders already :/ ./cry ... tho those peeps dont know of this new bit yet .
if u dont want a weap cost u dont like the price etc , np there are other crafters about , tho im taking this from what the US crafters do

 

[DocWolfe]

hendrick is selling 99% jambiyas @ 350g

 

[old.Iunliten]

can't... read , it !

 

[old.Hendrick]

I'm only selling them so cheap because I have shedloads of them from trying for my own MP jambiya.

 

[old.windforce]

hmm making average loss of 150 gold selling those Hendrick?

material + average 6 retries = 500+ gold...

 

[liste]

nah.

Hendrick has a standing order with Fort Knox. they pay him, he fills their vaults with weapons, instead of that cheely, no good gold...

 

[case-rigantis]

99% sabre = 608g with 67g per retry.(5x retry)

how much?!!?

 

[old.Hendrick]

hmm making average loss of 150 gold selling those Hendrick?

Yes I'm making a loss, but it's less of a loss as selling to a merchant is and I just have so many of those stupid jambiyas at the moment that all I want is to get rid of them. Same goes for partisans, by the way. Does nobody use thrust poles these days?
It's a sell-out special offer basically. Usually, 600g for a 99% sabre is quite a fair price really. If someone orders a not so common weapon from me that I am not trying for MPs anyway, it's likely to cost a similiar amount, depending on remakes needed.

 

[Roalith]

Found a very interesting report the other day somewhere on the tradeskill forums.

Can't remember the url, or the final details, but basically it boiled down to the MEAN (average) number of tries to a masterpiece as 50.

However, the median ranges for MP quality meant that if you didn't get an MP quality within the first 35 attempts at an item, the MP could come anywhere from the 36th attempt stretching to infinity - which is what brings the average up.

 

[old.windforce]

ill take one of those jambiyas Hendrick
can't craft them myself for that price

ill try to contact you ingame

<goes for uber overcharge>

 

[bonna]

yea hendrick, i know what u mean with stock piling weap when making 100% , get alot of 99% after making over 100 weaps for 1 100% g-rapier for my self :/
tho i just sold the g-rapiers in the end , took up to much room

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by Roalith
Found a very interesting report the other day somewhere on the tradeskill forums.

Can't remember the url, or the final details, but basically it boiled down to the MEAN (average) number of tries to a masterpiece as 50.

However, the median ranges for MP quality meant that if you didn't get an MP quality within the first 35 attempts at an item, the MP could come anywhere from the 36th attempt stretching to infinity - which is what brings the average up.

Imho somewhere along the way the ratio was determined by a vast block of crafting, say for eg 1000 weapons were crafted and from this batch 20 mp`s were created, so the odds have been calculated at 1-50,it would definately help if we could give our customers a near as dammit price for thier weapon,but it`s way to erratic, so the best you can tell them is between 3.5 to over 5 plat,but then again since when has DAoC had anything to do with logic.

 

[old.willowywicca]

people who don't understand what it means to have a 2% chance per craft of getting a MP don't deserve MPs

 

[old.Hendrick]

I'm _so_ close to selling about 20 99% jambiyas to the merchants myself... not to mention the 4 Partisans I have left over from another MP order.

 

[bonna]

i sell alot of 99% weapons. none want them , only 100% nower days, sooo better then sitting in vault .

 

[old.Hendrick]

All 350g jambiyas sold out now. Moving back to regular prices. (With one cheap thingy reserved for Slo still). Still letting go 99%Arcanium Partisans for 400g (Thrust pole in case you don't know).