We give up

[old.job]

Due to the utter ineptitude of our forces.
Military command have decided to call it a day, we officially surrender, Hib's are cr@p.

An attempt was made last night to take the keep, as usual the Mids had the same idea.

The problems were, utterly annoying spamming of the CG allnight with 'my chars better than yours'. The complete inability of people to listen to instructions, and no point during the night did we get the groups together. We had the ridiculous situation of 10 people charging the keep while the rams and most of the forces were still on the way to the teleport.

All we did was supply the Mids/Albs with a steady supply of rp's to keep them satisfied.

Every 'Dont attack, regroup at TK' was followed by a 15 long death message.

But not to worry thing's are afoot to rectify the situation, very soon an equivalent of DeltaForce will be visiting the BG.
You have been warned!!!

 

[mattygroves]

Delta Force are going to have to get past the SAS first

As we all know, the competition just doesn't exist

 

[fl3a]

ppl not listening to orders/reccomendations?

utter lack of cooperation?

seems like mid ck raids

 

[Salazar]

Come on Job... i was laughing my ass off all the time... was there with meh lickle ranger Lhama... we had like 10 leaders all shouting out different directions, spamming, capsspamming, being important, been on so and so many keepraids and stuff...

Well.. dont take it too hard.. defended keep is hard to take.. hibdefended keep almost impossible you need seriously higher numbers to take defended keep... and there was pretty nice number of albs... like usually...

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

keep plugging away mate

well done for trying mate, keep plugging away, dont let the numbskulls get you down.

actually its been too long since mids held the keep, and since i organised a little shin ding.

/checks his pockets for rams

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Salazar
Come on Job... i was laughing my ass off all the time... was there with meh lickle ranger Lhama... we had like 10 leaders all shouting out different directions, spamming, capsspamming, being important, been on so and so many keepraids and stuff...

Well.. dont take it too hard.. defended keep is hard to take.. hibdefended keep almost impossible you need seriously higher numbers to take defended keep... and there was pretty nice number of albs... like usually...

I thought the commnets someone had about "his friend the level 50", who must know all cos he was "the most advanced in the game" were quite amusing.
Also there was someone who'd been on a whole 17(!!) keep raids. Clearly a master among us.

 

[Quasimoto]

lol.. yeah was fun...

I was one of the guys making ppl charge the keep afaik tho...
was killing bowmen over the hb as ppl started to follow me and go round to the doors

thats when we died....

And oh the "my class is better then urs" I didnt start that... I just comented on warriors having SOMETHING to the rerolled hero who said they were the suckyest suck of the sucky....

All in all... next time let Birdy lead hes got the rams and should be in charge

 

[Danya]

I logged before the my class is the suckiest etc. discussion, got sick of all the arguing in the cg.

 

[old.job]

Just too say my post sorta looked like I was leading it, I wasn't, just a foot soldier, and I guess it's easy to complain from the bottom.

The funniest had to be the ram part's carrier, stuck outside DL shouting for a strength buff to get him to the teleport, everyone ignoring him and charging the Guards anyway

You know what we could do with, nominate a leader and give him a key to the TK doors, that'd keep the bleeders in there!

 

[Archeon]

Hmm...

at times hibs make me laugh, thats when they try to zerg. its hilarious

then at times when they realise that they work better in small tactical groups working idependently of each other, thats when i get worried


the moral of the story? stop trying to mimic the albi's and zerg. stop trying to mimic the mids and beat up on the albis, be hibs, be small, be tactical, kick our ass once we've sent the albis packing and are weak. thats when i have max respect for you

 

[arrig-ondemand]

LOOOOL! Seems like the only realm whos actually capable of serious military stategies are the Albs! Ive been in one keep raid (i know, i'm not that experienced) but it was a farce non the less. With 10 or so ppl charging the CK gate, getting killed horrorbly by the bowmen and casters on the walls, while 10 or 15 ppl fled the site because of the 10 getting killed at the gate, instead of killing the pescy bowmen and casters! When we found that knocking the door down by hand, we finally got the ram parts to the gate... And the little kobbie crafter died, by the hands of the bowmen, who still lived. He whimped out, and logged... Then we pounded the door fro an hour or so, till someone finally were able to craft another ram. And evrything was perfect. Untill we came to the CK gate, and the guys carrying 200 of the 300 wood boards.... Had logged.... So we were left trying to bash in the door by hand (did a good job at it tho. Got it down by 50% by hand.... It too about an hor and a half, but anyway) At that time the albs had reinforcements and all our healers and rezzerz had logged.... So that was my first keep raid. I hope my next one will be better But a BIG THAKS goes out to the brave Middies who stayed and fought

Sincerly

Arrig Ondemand, 24 seasons Troll Zerker! Biting your ugly head off! (Mmmmm! Taste like chicken!)

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

you havent been on a good raid then

we took thidranki once, all told, in 70 minutes........that includes going to bledmeer and buying ram pieces, suiciding, porting back, setting up and smashing doors down, and charging in to kill the lord. we even repelled a large alb counter from the atk shores.

that was best raid i ever led, everything was clockwork. but it seems planets need to be in conjucntion and u need a fair few good folk willing to listen for that to happen.

current keep raid score for me (while leading with diff chars)

4 attempts - 3 succeeds, 1 fail

 

[old.ivan]

Originally posted by old.job
Due to the utter ineptitude of our forces.
Military command have decided to call it a day, we officially surrender, Hib's are cr@p.
edit : admitting that hibs are 'cr@p' is simply profane.. you know hibs by implication includes you too mate.

An attempt was made last night to take the keep, as usual the Mids had the same idea.

The problems were, utterly annoying spamming of the CG allnight with 'my chars better than yours'. The complete inability of people to listen to instructions, and no point during the night did we get the groups together. We had the ridiculous situation of 10 people charging the keep while the rams and most of the forces were still on the way to the teleport.
edit: no we didnt have a selected leader.. not like someone would listen to a leader anyways...CAPS dont help...yup people kept on charging the keep while the ram was at teleport.. i know cause i left the charge and went to escort our ram guy .. btw my 40 strength buff didnt exactly help him move about


All we did was supply the Mids/Albs with a steady supply of rp's to keep them satisfied.

Every 'Dont attack, regroup at TK' was followed by a 15 long death message.
edit: yup and guess whoes pain it was.. only 3 rezzers round


But not to worry thing's are afoot to rectify the situation, very soon an equivalent of DeltaForce will be visiting the BG.
You have been warned!!!
edit: oh i would like to see that, but frankly its one of those.. i wont believe untill i actually see it happen

Oh and heres a few things for keep raids to come.

1. Start with equipment -->

Get 2 rams at least
Arrange a ram team, maybe two if need be.

this leads on to next point

2. Arrange groups

Make groups with leaders of the group being sensible people who wont talk about Class uberness in CG. Groups should be as balanced as it is possible.

3. CG

Make your own CG. Invite group leaders into CG. Brief /discuss matters with group leaders.

4. Scout

nuff said .. scout ahead.. we didnt even have an alb number estimate

5. Gank guards

No 'Charge !!11!!' {tm}
Sequentially pull the guards dammit

6. Defenders

Try to suppress defenders as much as possible

7. Ram

Once gates are secured set up a ram, ram operator and tank with guard on him.

8. My two rubles

That night just like i said there and then.. we did not have the numbers to take that keep, we did not have enough people. We had 24 people tops about 3 full groups. Albion had more than 1 full group of defenders in the keep.
3 groups... no ram setup... high danger of mids attacking from the back... 10 albions entranched in the keep... too much to deal with dontcha think.
I said it before and i will say it again, Thidranki can only be taken at off peak hours.. untill im proved wrong ill be saying that.
And im not saying this was an organized event and for such DISorganized event we did good i figure

Thanks to all hibbies who participated in XXXXXXXXs [allegedly since it was his ram ] or ZZZZZZZZ [ whos been and i quote ' on 17 keep takes' ]. We had our share of kills, our share of excitement, heck some even had an interesting discussion about uberness while everyone else had a laugh

So on this note i end my rant
PS: Lighten up, it is but a game

 

[sharon_corr]

Originally posted by arrig-ondemand
LOOOOL! Seems like the only realm whos actually capable of serious military stategies are the Albs!

Really smart strategy! They just take comfort in numbers. <looool!> Give them two eldies and a couple of firby's (and a champ of course!) and see them squabble over the bridge like little grils, yelling: "Mister Knight Commander, that ugly elf tried to punch me!!!"
Just because they're many dont make them smart Granted, there are a couple of albies out there whom i have the utmost respect for. Good fighters! /salute

Usually albs laugh their ass off over the dead enemies. (stupidly rude, provided the ones who laugh usually didnt even cast a spell or drawn their weapons, but lets ignore that) Strangely enough, middies have shown the most common sense in Thidranki. (and in Emain actually!) Many of them actually /bow or /kiss the ones they slay. And, most importantly, they fight well! Aye, my respects to you!

Albies are just cannon fodder... hehe :-D

//Shaz