Warlock even more owned!

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illu said:
Gamah RR9 Minstrel - Now available in Warlord.
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Hmmmmm

Warlocks are a tad OP
Minstrels are a tad OP in stealther wars/warlord mode
Bainshees are a tad OP in everything/zergwar

Pot calling kettle black?

The only good thing about warlocks is that they seem to be good fun to play in keep warfare, and that you don't need to have an uber template to play them. One day I'll finish my one off to use in future Alb relic raids.
The only thing I find about playing casters though is I find it gets boring zapping people. I need to get in up close and personal and hack and slash. Much more fun :>

Oli - Illu

Not a single class in this game even comes remotely close to being as overpowered as a warlock.
The warlock class is by far the most retarded class ever made in this game and deserves to be nerfed over and over and over and over and over again :)

Zegas said:
Make more love Gamah, you can hardly whine to the wl's when you have a bainshee minstrel and vamp on camlann :p

Yes he can, he really really can xD
 

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LOL more wl bs:twak:
for people that think a warlock can do so much more in battle is talking total
bs:touch:

for 1 they are the first target to all that sees it in range
i know grps dont like them but, put body guard on their asses guaranteed it prob take the grp 10 secs to realise this giving you an advantage:)

gimp wl nothing new that midgard allways get raped by mythic
i bet they do feek all to banshee

ps and other idiots that play op classes and still slag of warlocks make me laugh
 

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pip said:
LOL more wl bs:twak:
for people that think a warlock can do so much more in battle is talking total
bs:touch:

for 1 they are the first target to all that sees it in range
i know grps dont like them but, put body guard on their asses guaranteed it prob take the grp 10 secs to realise this giving you an advantage:)

gimp wl nothing new that midgard allways get raped by mythic
i bet they do feek all to banshee

ps and other idiots that play op classes and still slag of warlocks make me laugh

tissue pip?
 

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1 Question how many of u get a WL ?





i get 1 and i see it sux no qc no speed no root
4me the 5-6 Ui on a combat is kinda sux
1vs1 u dont need 5 ui to kill it but if a fg, what make 5ui and after smoke ?
u just dont see dont u wl=short combat if u get at last EM2 will be easy to kill it ( is 4 my vampiir on classic )
i see it like a topic even if wl will make 1 dmg still will be op
he got the OP on hes head after mythic show that movie about catacombs ( chambering 2 albs)
 

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popa said:
i get 1 and i see it sux no qc no speed no root
4me the 5-6 Ui on a combat is kinda sux
1vs1 u dont need 5 ui to kill it but if a fg, what make 5ui and after smoke ?
u just dont see dont u wl=short combat if u get at last EM2 will be easy to kill it ( is 4 my vampiir on classic )
i see it like a topic even if wl will make 1 dmg still will be op
he got the OP on hes head after mythic show that movie about catacombs ( chambering 2 albs)


between you and pip, i think anyone who wasnt sure that the majority of warlock players were (mentally speaking) 14 year olds that couldnt handle any other classes are now firm believers. far be it from me to ignore someones argument based on the way they type, but im pretty sure it would help if you guys maybe gathered together and voted a spokesman among yourselves, one that could actually play warlock class and make the most of its overpowered abilities. and preferably could type legible points, as well as absorbing other peoples points and delivering them back to you guys in the form of "warlock r ez mode lol"
 

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makes me all fuzzy inside listening to warlocks crying
 

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a grp warlock is more then just chamber dumb, tbh any dd caster there get the jump on any other caster will win.

and tbh i can name a few thing just as oped as warlocks, heretic monster rezz in tower and keep fights beat a warlock, get the noob warder killed, monster ress him, have him grped with a good cleric, send him in and you have the whole tower or lord room interrupted.
 

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Lejemorder said:
and tbh i can name a few thing just as oped as warlocks, heretic monster rezz in tower and keep fights beat a warlock, get the noob warder killed, monster ress him, have him grped with a good cleric, send him in and you have the whole tower or lord room interrupted.

"just as oped" :m00:

are you comparing something that insta kills people with something that interrupts?
why not compare the tank hp regen with berserker damage?
or the chanter petsize with the size of you dick?
 

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Crocky said:
"just as oped" :m00:

are you comparing something that insta kills people with something that interrupts?
why not compare the tank hp regen with berserker damage?
or the chanter petsize with the size of you dick?

instant kill my arse, takes me 2 chambers and 2 lifetaps to kill fooking armsmen :p lols :<

wl is op, but they got shit defence / powerpool :< its bad, you wanna keep pbaoeing, but u gotta use primary spells or w/e.. they gimping them a little much imo.
 

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Lejemorder said:
a grp warlock is more then just chamber dumb, tbh any dd caster there get the jump on any other caster will win.

Not really true. Moment a DD caster gets the jump on a Warlock, the Warlock can just hit /face and press 1 button to regain the initiative (+ a lifetap so he gets HP back from the nuke from the enemy caster).

[qupte]
and tbh i can name a few thing just as oped as warlocks, heretic monster rezz in tower and keep fights beat a warlock, get the noob warder killed, monster ress him, have him grped with a good cleric, send him in and you have the whole tower or lord room interrupted.[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily more or less overpowered, its simply different. Not to mention the Warlock can UI snare (frog) the zombie, and kill him. Then again, dont see how u can compare zombie-rezz with warlocks in general.
 

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Himse said:
wl is op, but they got shit defence / powerpool :< its bad, you wanna keep pbaoeing, but u gotta use primary spells or w/e.. they gimping them a little much imo.

Warlock has the exact same defense as any other spell-caster and also the exact same powerpool (PIE/Acuity primary stat). You can keep PBAE'ing if you use powerless primer, you got a terrific self-POM which is like POM20?

No quickcast, ye. Tough luck, you got UI primer, which is 1000% better then quickcast, yes it costs way more power, but it has no timer, no recast-timer AND your enemy cant run 'OOV' on it --> UI primer ---> spam secondary spell till enemy is in view.

Anyhow, if you guys actually had the slightest clew AND where not so biassed due to your active realm-of-choice, you would agree. Any complaints about Warlocks-DPS in a 2 minute fight make me laugh, dont play a frigging warlock then, but play any of the other *EXCELLENT* casters Midgard has to offer. Then again, you guys probably tried, and failed horribly. If you see how someone like Pip plays either his hunter or his skald I think I got the reason why he thinks warlock is fine. Pip is the kind of guy who could make a sorc look gimped :)
 

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Lejemorder said:
and tbh i can name a few thing just as oped as warlocks, heretic monster rezz in tower and keep fights beat a warlock, get the noob warder killed, monster ress him, have him grped with a good cleric, send him in and you have the whole tower or lord room interrupted.

Ermm, people still don't know how to deal with monsters? o_O lol

/cheer for both the changes :D Just a bit worried about tics getting anymore cause of 'fotm' aspect and I don't wanna be in line for a nerf on a pretty much balanced class.
 

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pip said:
LOL more wl bs:twak:
for people that think a warlock can do so much more in battle is talking total
bs:touch:

for 1 they are the first target to all that sees it in range
i know grps dont like them but, put body guard on their asses guaranteed it prob take the grp 10 secs to realise this giving you an advantage:)

gimp wl nothing new that midgard allways get raped by mythic
i bet they do feek all to banshee

ps and other idiots that play op classes and still slag of warlocks make me laugh

Quiet You! >:eek:

All of You's >:eek:

As i recall from herald it was gonna have the efficiency of moc.
But can be wrong don matter anyhow.

:cheers:
 

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What i fail to see with this is why a WL should go anything other then 50hex after this.

It will be 40 powerloss so what, dmg is gimp going anything else. And that 20 powerreg is wort the extra powercost anyday.
as i see it is a pure nerf again, trying to force Warlocks to do mix specs wasting points in Mastery of Focus to be able to get any secondarys to hit.

What they are doing are bleeding the class to death.

Also btw for the hib/alb whine bitches, try playing a WL, it takes more skill to play a WL sucessfull then onebutton nukers anyday.
 

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Herjulf said:
Also btw for the hib/alb whine bitches, try playing a WL, it takes more skill to play a WL sucessfull then onebutton nukers anyday.


lol i bet.. Champer, champer omg im all out!!! lets do some lifetap that cant be interuptet .. damn wish my mom could c me now because this really takes skills
 

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Herjulf said:
Also btw for the hib/alb whine bitches, try playing a WL, it takes more skill to play a WL sucessfull then onebutton nukers anyday.

No it doesn't, I have a 50 Warlock on Camlann and with just an int charge I can kill tanks with 2800hp and capped matter resists in about 4-5 seconds unless it's a Heretic with rr5.
Bolt+Lifetap(or DD+lifetap) + chamber (on the same time your cast ends to 'insta' cast 4 spells) and with WP3 I crit alot already and it's not weird to hit for 600-800 on the lifetaps.
Add in a few UI lifetaps and kaboom easy 1k rps and if they are using run through no problem just use UI PBAE.

Would like to see someone kill a high RR Warlock even after this change because a Warlock with Purge2/3, PD3-5, WP4+ some MoM and AA will kill basically any class 'instantly' and if not good luck outdamaging his UI lifetap.

Oh and by the way when you say we should play a Warlock why don't you try and play a Druid/Cleric in a group that is facing a Warlock chamber dump try and save a person in your group because as soon as DI is gone you will not even be able to press an instant heal before a person in your group drops.
 

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i can agree to many of you that warlocks ar OP and such. But i still see the Wl pow in this matter. I haven't played an Wl myself and i can say i like to meet them, but they getting chain nerfed is a bit extreme imo.

I say rebalance the class instead of nerfing it to nothingness. I don't find Wl's as hard now as they were before.
 

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tbh the nerf isn't that big just may mean we will have to get ourselves toaed, still missing the 10% resist pierce on mine so i know i can get more damage if i had the money/patience to get jacina+AT :p

rog for life! :worthy:
 

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Demon2k3 said:
i can agree to many of you that warlocks ar OP and such. But i still see the Wl pow in this matter. I haven't played an Wl myself and i can say i like to meet them, but they getting chain nerfed is a bit extreme imo.

I say rebalance the class instead of nerfing it to nothingness. I don't find Wl's as hard now as they were before.

strange, i thought nerfing WAS re-balancing a class, its if considered OP compaired to other classes
 

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the warlock is far from getting nerfed to nothingness, even after this patch a warlock in the right hands will be a extremely nice asset to a group.

Nerfing was very needed as atm you can pretty much be the worst player in daoc and still get easy kills, and that is just wrong imo. Tho the things that are getting nerfed are the things that the easymoders use, while the realy utility of the char still remains.
 

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Herjulf said:
What i fail to see with this is why a WL should go anything other then 50hex after this.

It will be 40 powerloss so what, dmg is gimp going anything else. And that 20 powerreg is wort the extra powercost anyday.
as i see it is a pure nerf again, trying to force Warlocks to do mix specs wasting points in Mastery of Focus to be able to get any secondarys to hit.

What they are doing are bleeding the class to death.

Also btw for the hib/alb whine bitches, try playing a WL, it takes more skill to play a WL sucessfull then onebutton nukers anyday.

Yes I agree with u Herjulf, and btw if Wl r so OP how come there r not any WL on eu servers with over 6.5 mill rps? Highest is Starf with 2,2 rps on Prydwen and on Excal its Takhylock with 6.4 rps.

Also there is not so many WL out there... do people not excpect to get killed in RvR?
 

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Zahr said:
Yes I agree with u Herjulf, and btw if Wl r so OP how come there r not any WL on eu servers with over 6.5 mill rps? Highest is Starf with 2,2 rps on Prydwen and on Excal its Takhylock with 6.4 rps.

Also there is not so many WL out there... do people not excpect to get killed in RvR?

was nodding my head till you said "not so many WL out there" :p
 

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Zahr said:
Yes I agree with u Herjulf, and btw if Wl r so OP how come there r not any WL on eu servers with over 6.5 mill rps? Highest is Starf with 2,2 rps on Prydwen and on Excal its Takhylock with 6.4 rps.

Also there is not so many WL out there... do people not excpect to get killed in RvR?

maybe because most ppl get bored with a easymode class like that? you really have to be retardet to enjoy that class imo
 

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Ashala said:
was nodding my head till you said "not so many WL out there" :p

Ok maybe there r some but not as many as people whine about like it was the whole chinese army afther them.

I have no problems with them at all with my gimped ranger, warden, champion...

And still this nerf is still a test on u.s, not sure they will nerf at all..when 1.82 is ready.:D
 

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Zahr said:
Yes I agree with u Herjulf, and btw if Wl r so OP how come there r not any WL on eu servers with over 6.5 mill rps? Highest is Starf with 2,2 rps on Prydwen and on Excal its Takhylock with 6.4 rps.

Also there is not so many WL out there... do people not excpect to get killed in RvR?


Prolly because the class isnt all that long in the game yet ? Compared to Bainshees, Vamps, Tics, Valks its the Warlock being the highest for sure xD

And Arumos says it all: 7L5 Warlock, who doesnt even have an opted TOA-suite - and still kills everything...
 

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Herjulf said:
What they are doing are bleeding the class to death.
Bleeding it to somewhere near the level of the rest of us mortals more like.
 

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Puppet said:
Warlock has the exact same defense as any other spell-caster and also the exact same powerpool (PIE/Acuity primary stat). You can keep PBAE'ing if you use powerless primer, you got a terrific self-POM which is like POM20?

No quickcast, ye. Tough luck, you got UI primer, which is 1000% better then quickcast, yes it costs way more power, but it has no timer, no recast-timer AND your enemy cant run 'OOV' on it --> UI primer ---> spam secondary spell till enemy is in view.

Anyhow, if you guys actually had the slightest clew AND where not so biassed due to your active realm-of-choice, you would agree. Any complaints about Warlocks-DPS in a 2 minute fight make me laugh, dont play a frigging warlock then, but play any of the other *EXCELLENT* casters Midgard has to offer. Then again, you guys probably tried, and failed horribly. If you see how someone like Pip plays either his hunter or his skald I think I got the reason why he thinks warlock is fine. Pip is the kind of guy who could make a sorc look gimped :)
lol you try playing hunter prob 1 of the most gimped class in the game:mad: and another thing muppet opps puppet skald not played for 2 years and im doing ok for rp thx

ps just another b/s post of the maestro muppet :twak:
 

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I rolled a WL.. PL'd him to 50, fully TOA'd him out, got ML10 and ....


I sodding hate the class.. dont get on with it, dont enjoy the class at all.
Got rr2 in like 1 evening and hes been inactive ever since lol
Was persauded to get him out the other day and I lasted 10 mins b4 I had to bring out my SB. Like Oli I prefer up close combat I like to look into the whites of my victims eyes as they die muhahah
 

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