Veeshan over here!! l00k :)

[old.Tylar]

Yup Congo

its usually the case if I see another caster about the same lvl its who lands mezz or stun first wins

hehe to all the ppl who moan when my bolt hits I spent ages getting hit from Sun for over 900 aswell yet when am a match for them what happens ? they leave daoc lmao

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Matinex


who said that? if you mean me you better read my post again before you come with your smartass comments.

And that means what?
You said "melee as well as any one else (almost)", which looks to me at least like you're saying they have (almost) the melee of tanks. That's utter crap. A cleric can't spec their weapon at all, they have MUCH lower damage tables than a tank or even a rogue. And they have less HP and armour than tanks. Put a cleric in melee vs a tank of equal con, and without instas the cleric would get cut to ribbons.
Maybe you should read what you post before you click that submit button.

 

[tilde]

cleric has the same dmg.table(with no styles) and hp.table as a paladin - can outdmg a wizard (u are mainly a healer)

This is no whinge from me, just facts so please dont flame me for this one

 

[old.Sepiritz]

< semi-drunken rambling >
I seriously doubt I can outdamage a properly specced wizard.. even on mobs which I get a bonus to damage on. I know, because I have compaired my damage with Ignea and Ludwig who both are almost the same level and firespecced wizzies.. They hit a mob (undead caster, I get a bonus to damage, I dont think they do..) and they make ~900-1000 damage on that mob, while I do about 500 (yellow to orange con).. Thats how close I am as a caster.. Then knowing this from the start, why did I chose a cleric, well, quite simply because im not sniperbait with chainarmor and decent hp. I like to be versatile in daoc, it means the most fun on different situations.. I never feel useless.
Damagewise Im no better then any caster, but with instas, shouts, aoe, etc, then (smite)cleric is one of the best classes around I agree.. But its still its no better then any one class at any one thing.. except possibly surviving.
< /semi-drunken rambling >

 

[old.Stix]

BTW sub, can Cindi speak english? Because I and someone I was in a cg with got the silent treatment from her when she got killed.... sort of a big no-no in rvr, and something I wouldn't expect from a lvl 45+, even with no rps lol.

Nice to see some smite clerics coming clean about their class

 

[Matinex]

No dannyn, i mean they hit almost as hard, when your both out of endurance, almost. i've been having a 1 on 1 with a cleric and i've experienced it, but maybe he had bonus against my armour and i had minus. but they still do hit very hard.

 

[Torin]

2Stix - yes she can without any problem

 

[old.Finster]

that 505 damage (without resist) dd takes eternal 4 seconds to cast. i still believe you outnuke me badly tylar, just that i have much more hp. and as i gather light eldritch should have the harder hitting single nuke as opposed to your void bolts and dds.

 

[old.Tylar]

Finster there is no point hitting u with a bolt I would only get a melee block or deflect from u

Sorry I have fought u a few times I clearly remember u hitting me for 400ish next time we meet i remember stunning u first and hitting for 250ish. This was maybe last week sometime.

If I remember next time we meet I will log it or if u want come to the bowl and meet and see what dmg we do

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Matinex
No dannyn, i mean they hit almost as hard, when your both out of endurance, almost. i've been having a 1 on 1 with a cleric and i've experienced it, but maybe he had bonus against my armour and i had minus. but they still do hit very hard.

Well their basic hit isn't amazing but they do get a self damage buff which means they can pump out a reasonable bit of damage. This is also unaffected by con of their opponent which means they can hit purps for reasonable damage compaired to a lot of classes.

 

[old.Uger]

Hello every 1 . I read everything u have written here and if u want my opinion on this subject , here it comes.

1)Runemaster 47RC/26SUP > everything , but ministrel (25/75 that Rm wins)

2)Eldtritch 46/26 ownz army , but cant solo properly , tho has Nearsight ( )

3)Sorceress OWNZ army , sucks at solo (depends on the class he fights against)

4)Spirit Master same as Sorc

6) Theurgists - ( OMG how i love them |Raistlin | ) well , i would say they OWN PATROLS solo in EMAIN ,ROFL , seriously they can own army solo , but against mages ,who have nearsight they r weak .

5)Wizard ... Hum let me think . Well i think Alb has the weakest mage classes , coz they dont have Nearsight , they have one (Cabalist LOL) , but it s a rare thing that some 1 plays with the GOD OF DOT . And for those Wizards , who think, that they will be GREAT DAMAGE MAKERS in mass rvr , if u opponents are skilled and have nearsight ,i doubt u will be able to nuke ur AE

6)Clerics ... what can i say ? Only classes i respect in Alb realm are.. Ministrel / Smite Clerics. Clerics r very powerful , they can solo easily everything ,but Rm and they rock at mass rvr.

If im wrong plz tell me.

I regard myself to be at least good Rm and i did pissed lots of ppl off in rvr (Hint : Albs ) , now i think im quitting excalibur / mid , coz of their attitudes.

Dear Mids .. remember one thing plz , BEING lvl 50 , doesnt mean u r skilled . Plz improve ur skill , but farm exp .

Rm-49 retired
Ranger-10 / prydwen

 

[Subbiz]

"/who uger = 1) Uger the level 48 Runemaster in Malmohus" ? retired? lvl 49? tihi

erhmm, if u dont like the attitude in midgard @ excal, maybe u should change ur own?
I will never forget that day at malmohus where 16 or so, ppl where chainpulling drakulv, and my guildie fonsie saw u leeching of our exp without even asking. And when I asked u wtf u were doing and told ya to stop, u just said "im just leeching a bit here".. and U didnt see the point in why u should stop, and kept on leeching for another 6-7 pulls even tho I asked u to stop several times.. no onder you feel a hostile attitude towards you in the realm of midgard, MATE.
wouldnt rly hurt any1 if u left, ahem. - LEECHING WITHOUT AGREEMENT FROM THOSE YOU LEECH FROM IS NOT CONSIDERED AS SOMETHING YOU "JUST" DO!!!! FFS~~~~~~~~

The only reason u ever made it to 40+ in our realm is because u know ganju and because u got pulse, end of story.

 

[old.Uger]

Bah Sub , u seem to be the real lame ass mate , didnt really want to say in in some 1 presence , but u forced me.

Let me explain how it happens in mid realm.

For example, i have a fully complected exp party and some 1 wants to join . i always let him to . But what we have on the next day ? The guy who u took as a leecher and who definetely was 3-5 lvl lower than u rejected to give u a party , saying that SRY WE R FULL. Where is the gratitude mate ? Most of ppl r so selfish , including u , coz u was the very man. And it happens all the time

Concerning that moment i was leeching : i asked Ganju if i could come he said yes , so i came and started to leech ,nothing special..and i dont give a fuck what u say .. welcome on ignore list

About ur mate Fonse : whatever he says /ignored

About my lvl im 0.4 from lvl 49 / 30 mins and im lvl 49 , is that ok ?

About how i got to my lvl : u think becouse of pulse .. on the one hand u r right , on another u suck again , coz it obviously u know nothing about Rm

Rm : main puller , rooter if lack of healers , mezz breaker ,Nuker ( the most DD in the realm ) and ofcourse Pulse. Ask ppl who exped with me and they would tell u, i did my best to get the best exp for the whole party .


U might say im not manner , well i play this game not for chatting about nothing and having good relation with lame ppl like u . I play to kill enemies and exp hard if needed. I know what im doing .So plz think again before posting anything like u had posted here.

Have a nice day dwarvish zerk user

 

[tilde]

Level dont mean JACK how good u are! nuff said

 

[old.Sonya]

Uger, 1 note about sorc - it can solo VERY well. That 3 DDs (2sec 350+ dmg each) after root can own most tanks & IF sorc see caster 1st - any caster too. So i dont really wonder that such solo sorc like Veeshan doing 10+k RP each day

 

[old.Charonel]

sonya i think perhaps that your sig needs updating

i was in cruachon gorge the other day getting ready to go to emain when someone says to me "careful mate. invader around"

so i immediately run up the hill where he pointed to find this invader... i find her a red con hunter. dont fancy my chances agains her so i quick cast a stun and leggit back to ligen. after the stun wore off she managed to get me to i think it must have been 1! hp!!! but by complete luck i manage to survive. after we gank her a few mins later with a load of other hibbies i notice that she's called sonya

so i think perhaps that a hunter, red con at lvl 32 would have more than 2 rp's

EDIT just noticed that it says skald... did you delete? and make a hunter? i'm sure the bow user middie was called sonya.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Uger, you said correct you if you are wrong

Here it goes....


Uger wrote:

"Hello every 1 . I read everything u have written here and if u want my opinion on this subject , here it comes."

"1)Runemaster 47RC/26SUP > everything , but ministrel (25/75 that Rm wins) "

Runemaster looses from any eldritch with nearsight becase the eldritch naturally has higher dex(both luris and elves have higher dex than kobolds) and gets the spell of that millisecond earlier thus hindering the RM to do jack shit.

-Also, any minstrel with any kind of skill will own any RM any time of the day. From stealth, DD DD(these 2 should do about 300ish damage) stun, hit once to make bladeturn fall, mez, wait for stun and dd timers to reset(including the 1 minute timer from stun). DD DD stun, hit once or twice til dead. And the runemaster cant do jack shit about it. Same goes for all casters.

"2)Eldtritch 46/26 ownz army , but cant solo properly , tho has Nearsight ( ) "

-Erm? Eldrtich 46/26 has 2 bolts, nearsight(the best solo spell in the game), stun(the next best solo spell in the game if comboed with powerful damage spells), aoe mez(can anyone complain about the effiency of mez?), aoe dd, and a mediocre dd capable of killing most casters within the duration of a stun.

Now tell me why this guy cant solo?

"3)Sorceress OWNZ army , sucks at solo (depends on the class he fights against) "

-You are telling me that a yellow pet + a 210 damage 2.8 sec dd isnt good for soloing? what planet do you live on? Also has aoe mez amnesia and single target mez to play with. And no tank in the game can do anything against a sorc. Just alternate mez and root in between the "try to run up to caster" part and its totally in the sorcs control.

"4)Spirit Master same as Sorc "

-Spiritmaster is nowhere the level of a sorc.

have no ranged mez, and a single target root. much crappier dd but only a blue pet. Also no amnesia to disrupt with.

"6) Theurgists - ( OMG how i love them |Raistlin | ) well , i would say they OWN PATROLS solo in EMAIN ,ROFL , seriously they can own army solo , but against mages ,who have nearsight they r weak ."

-You show me the theurgist that owns a mentalist solo and ill give you a price.

"5)Wizard ... Hum let me think . Well i think Alb has the weakest mage classes , coz they dont have Nearsight , they have one (Cabalist LOL) , but it s a rare thing that some 1 plays with the GOD OF DOT . And for those Wizards , who think, that they will be GREAT DAMAGE MAKERS in mass rvr , if u opponents are skilled and have nearsight ,i doubt u will be able to nuke ur AE "

-Pretty much correct on this one but for the fact that cabbies are dot amateurs compared to a mentalist. mentalists have 2 dots, one weak and one strong. Cabbies have EITHER a weak or a strong depending on spec. Mentalists can use both.

-And another thing, you say that if the enemy are skilled and have nearsight a wizard wont be able to AE. What if the enemy in this particular battle dont have the class with nearsight around just at that moment, are they not skilled because of that?

"6)Clerics ... what can i say ? Only classes i respect in Alb realm are.. Ministrel / Smite Clerics. Clerics r very powerful , they can solo easily everything ,but Rm and they rock at mass rvr. "

-Well, if a hibbie caster is smart no cleric can survive, jsut hold up on the stun til the cleric is down to 1/2 health(no cleric i have ever seen will use insta heals til below 50% health) and THEN stun em and kill them(cant use instas when stunned).

Can you tell me HOW? a runemaster would own a cleric?

Id figure it goes like this, Runie casts nearsight, cleric charges the runie to get in range, if anytime at this point the cleric loose too much health use "magic revive button" called insta heal, do this twice if that should be necessary. When the cleric comes close, 2 things can happen.

a) the runemaster roots the cleric and starts to run away, at this point the cleric can stun and dd the runie to deaht resulting in a dead runemaster.

b) the runemaster nukes a bit more and the cleric uses his instaheal 2(or has already done this and has ALOT of health already) and pbae mez+ stun + dd resulting in a dead runie, if the cleric wants to add some sparklies he can also pbae dd before the mez adding a nice lightning effect to the runemaster.

or c) the runemaster sees the lost battle and begins to run and maybe, just maybe, surprises the cleric and runs out of range thus resulting in a "walk over" win for the cleric.

You are a bit obsessed with your class and because of this you have no clue what you are talking about(thats what i think about you, not necessarily a fact, just an assumption of mine).

"If im wrong plz tell me. "

I just did....

"I regard myself to be at least good Rm and i did pissed lots of ppl off in rvr (Hint : Albs ) , now i think im quitting excalibur / mid , coz of their attitudes."

I dont regard you to be "the good RM" you speak of, because all the "good" RMs on the US servers(been killing stuff for 6 months now and should know what they are talking about) thinks that their class is redicoullously underpowered because of a single spell called stun.

"Dear Mids .. remember one thing plz , BEING lvl 50 , doesnt mean u r skilled . Plz improve ur skill , but farm exp ."

-Dear Uger .. remember one thing plz , BEING lvl 49(or 48 or whatever , doesnt mean u r skilled . Plz improve ur skill , but gain xp the honest and skilled way like everyone else.


Think that pretty much sums it up.

And for the guy that thought Ugers attitude was the faulty part compared to the rest of midgard, seeing on how extremely well he posted his facts i think i am better offputting my money on the rest of mid to be good guys rather than Uger here.

Edit: added extra comment on cleric owning everyone easily except RM...

 

[Novamir]

/cheer Nilj!

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by Niljindil
-Also, any minstrel with any kind of skill will own any RM any time of the day. From stealth, DD DD(these 2 should do about 300ish damage) stun, hit once to make bladeturn fall, mez, wait for stun and dd timers to reset(including the 1 minute timer from stun). DD DD stun, hit once or twice til dead. And the runemaster cant do jack shit about it. Same goes for all casters.

That's pretty inefficient really. Normally Mez start from stealth, dd,dd, wait for timers, dd, dd, stun, melee is better. For yellow con casters they're normally dead by the time you have 4 dds gone. otherwise you have your nice stun to get 2-3 hits in with (1-2 if they have BT up). Personally I am yet to loose a 1v1 with any caster and I have fought orange con runies 1v1 before.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Dannyn, didnt think of that

Still, thats how ive been killed by a yellow minstrel

 

[BlueJam]

Veeshan wasn't doing quite as well today

 

[old.Uger]

Looks like u have written good end-of-year literary composition here . Nice man ,u got 5 for writting style. But i have some objections , so stay tuned



1)Ministrel does not have thatmuch mana for DD , Stun all the time , and as Dannyn said they USUALLY DD or MEZZ from Stealth , so u have a little chance to quickcast root and run back a bit , nearsight him then just finnish ministrel .Btw i got my max mezz resist ! U know sometimes ppl get lucky and mezz resist works and as u know (i doubt tho) i have Pulse , so 1 hit for removing my fend wont be enuf. So lets say i still have 25 % to kill a ministrel.
All this is based on real facts , coz i dueled a lot and act in rvr with ministrels


2)Concerning Eldtritch now:
Niljindil:Now tell me why this guy cant solo?

Plz read everything i wrote there by paying great attention

DId i say he cant solo ? I said cant solo properly , it means he can solo , but will have problems by soloing some chars like Cleric smite( Eldritch cant chain dd / mezz | stun .. mezz / stun works only 1 time a minute per sub
Also sometimes archers will be pain for him coz he doest have Pulse and the only chance for him to survive is to spot the archer within 3 sec max and cast nearsight on him ,after recieving information he was hit by an archer , otherwise he is dead


3) Concerning Sorc now:

AS i got u simply worship PETS p) and i think i know why .. u r a mentalist

Ok lets get back to the subject and have a look at some intelligence casters (Rm , Eldtritch) vs sorc duel.

As Sonya says , it s all about who spots first his target , but not always.

Rm vs Sorc | u have 2 possibilities to kill him

a)Nearsight him , 2 bolts and his pet releases ( it s not safe tho coz if u miss u will die from pet)
b) Nearsight Sorc and root him , then root his pet and kill Sorc with ur DD ( U dont know simple things , coz u have not ever played with Rm , just read some topics , comments where written that Rm sucks)

Eldtritch can do the same , by mezzing pet.

Niljindil: 3)Sorceress OWNZ army , sucks at solo (depends on the class he fights against)

It also means he can solo , but will have some problems with some classes , like Rm / Eldtritch / Archers

4)Well i should admit SM a bit worse than sorc , but have the same features.

5)I didnt write anything here about Mentalist , dunno why u mentioned him

rvr fields r overcrowded with Rms / Eldtitch spec 26/47 and thx godness they find out what Nearsight does

Concerning Skill stuff , as for me when im in rvr and have some opponents in front of me i nearsight every cleric , mage class , scouts and even armsmen with crossbow.

6)Well im bored to point out simple things , u seem to dont have any imagination at all

Clerics :

I nearsight him and root.. then just dd/root/dd/root/dd/root and so on

He will die using all his instas

I dueled and fought a lot in emain and Rm has 99% to win ( 1% is
when a dule starts within his isnta stun range)

To sum up :

About my attitudes and Mid relations , it s none of ur business , i just cant get how a man , who doesnt play on mid/exc can judge some 1 and give crappy comments ?

Writting here about mids attitudes , i did not mean all of them r gays ...

And about being high lvl doesnt mean ur skilled , TELL ME IM WRONG ? Well i wish u saw everything i have seen.

Have a nice day

P.S if u r not satisfied with all i wrote here plz come to emain and we will arrange some duels there , with any class u can bring there.

P.P.S one good news for u . From now on i consider u being my favorite target in company with Tylar , Hing , Elesias, Anneli and Novamir

Have a nice day .

 

[old.Niljindil]

To kill a cleric you would?

"then just dd/root/dd/root/dd/root and so on"


AFAIK root is on the same 1 minute sleep spell timer as mez, stun and snare.

Meaning you cant kill a cleric.

Against a minstrel you say:

"so u have a little chance to quickcast root and run back a bit"

Ok, so within 2 seconds(the time it takes for casting mez) you will have to notice the minstrel(that prolly is behind you) turn around, press quickcast and root, and then wait for root to cast(3 secs/2 = 1.5).

Yeah right, what are you? god?

You have approx 1% chance of doing that.


"DId i say he cant solo ? I said cant solo properly , it means he can solo , but will have problems by soloing some chars like Cleric smite( Eldritch cant chain dd / mezz | stun .. mezz / stun works only 1 time a minute per sub
Also sometimes archers will be pain for him coz he doest have Pulse and the only chance for him to survive is to spot the archer within 3 sec max and cast nearsight on him ,after recieving information he was hit by an archer , otherwise he is dead"

Im a mentalist, and i have to run to every archer that attacks me just to get in range, and i normally dont fail with that. Cant see why an eldritch player cant qc nearsight before i can run up and qc mez.

And another thing, you fail to see the fact that a cleric have INSTAS, and instas does NOT work when you are stunned/mezed, but when you are rooted, they work.

All you have to do as an eldritch is stun the cleric before he uses his insta and make sure you kill him before stun runs out(9 secs).

As i said, as an rm, you cant hinder the cleric from using his instas, as an eldritch, you can. thats an effecient 60% hp decrease.


"Rm vs Sorc | u have 2 possibilities to kill him

a)Nearsight him , 2 bolts and his pet releases ( it s not safe tho coz if u miss u will die from pet)
b) Nearsight Sorc and root him , then root his pet and kill Sorc with ur DD ( U dont know simple things , coz u have not ever played with Rm , just read some topics , comments where written that Rm sucks)"

How are you supposed to root him? he will just run close to you, make his pet attack you, run out of range before you root him, and then you have one angry sorc plus his angry pet on you and none of them are rooted, you can choose to root the pet but then the sorc will probobly get into range(remember, even if nearsighted, he has still about 800-900 range) and WHAM, one dead runemaster.

A pet is one of the best tools for dueling in rvr, its just a matter of how you use it.

"6)Well im bored to point out simple things , u seem to dont have any imagination at all"

Believe me, i have, you wanna duel me when i get to the same level as you and my charm is made unbroken?

Could be fun having an orange bloodletter chew on that poor kobbie.

"Concerning Skill stuff , as for me when im in rvr and have some opponents in front of me i nearsight every cleric , mage class , scouts and even armsmen with crossbow."

Wtf do that have to do with skill? a 2 year old can click a model and press a button.

 

[old.Uger]

Oh man . What can we talk about with u , if u even dont know that when u break ur root , u can root again ?

If_u_still_dont_think_so|come to emain and ill show u|just tell me why and where

I just feel sry for the time i spent on u .

 

[tilde]

write a book

 

[old.Uger]

Wooot sweet Pala-Tilde ?

 

[Novamir]

Uger is probably the most skilled solo RvR enemy I have faced.. along with Alpha. He certainly knows his stuff But Uger, you shouldn't argue with Nilj... she is meean and won't give up arguments heheheh

 

[Danya]

Just to add, it's impossible for a RM to qc root a minstrel until they have been stunned and mezzed once, unless the minstrel is crap. Stun is insta, I have disrupted casters mid qc before with my stun.

 

[old.Uger]

Bah

 

[old.Uger]

Well , im ashamed Novamir . Forgive me Niljindil , no offences , u r the most sweet Mentalist ( tho never met u )