Vampiir DR template

Gear

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A slight modification of my current one, CW instead of GS, CB and Schallars that I don't currently use also, and last but not least, a small shield (gotta :fluffle: the extra imbue points)

LOKI Build Report
Default Configuration:
Build Utility: 760.7
Useable Utility: 759.3
TOA Utility: 304.0

Statistics
STR:103/101 CON:80/80 DEX:101/101
QUI:80/80 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:224/240
Power:0/25
AF:22/50

Resistances
Body: 22
Cold: 23
Heat: 23
Energy: 2+5
Matter: 23
Spirit: 25
Crush: 26+5
Slash: 26
Thrust: 26

Skills
Piercing: 11

Bonuses
Style Damage: 8
Melee Damage: 11
Melee Combat Speed: 10
Fatigue: 4

Chest (Guard of Valour):
Imbue: 22.0
40 Hits
18 Strength
5 Strength Cap Increase
15 Dexterity
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
4 Melee Damage
4 Style Damage
Utility: 32.0
TOA Utility: 60.0

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Quickness
3 Piercing
5% Thrust
11% Crush
Utility: 63.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
28 Strength
9% Cold
9% Heat
20 Hits
Utility: 59.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
9% Slash
11% Thrust
16 Constitution
5% Crush
Utility: 60.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Scallar's):
Imbue: 20.0
40 Hits
15 Constitution
15 Quickness
3 Melee Combat Speed
3 Melee Damage
5 Constitution Cap Increase
5 Quickness Cap Increase
Utility: 30.0
TOA Utility: 50.0

Feet:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
16 Dexterity
5% Slash
11% Matter
9% Spirit
Utility: 60.7
TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Vamp Champion):
Imbue: 20.5
4 Piercing
7 Strength
9 Dexterity
4 Melee Damage
4 Style Damage
5 Strength Cap Increase
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 30.7
TOA Utility: 62.0

Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Constitution
25 Quickness
4 Piercing
13 Strength
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Neck (Paidrean Necklace):
Imbue: 45.0
10% Body
10% Thrust
10% Spirit
10% Crush
Utility: 80.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
Imbue: 20.0
3 Stealth
15 Strength
15 Quickness
10 AF
5 Melee Combat Speed
4 Fatigue
Utility: 35.0
TOA Utility: 43.0

Jewel (Harpy Feather Charm):
Imbue: 31.0
6% Heat
6% Cold
6% Matter
6% Body
44 Hits
Utility: 59.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Plaitted Hair of Malamis):
Imbue: 22.5
22 Strength
22 Dexterity
8 Strength Cap Increase
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
2 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 29.3
TOA Utility: 38.0

Left Ring (Krojer's dex):
Imbue: 17.0
2% Energy
2% Cold
2% Heat
21 Dexterity
6 Dexterity Cap Increase
12 AF
Utility: 26.0
TOA Utility: 24.0

Right Ring (Ring of the Heavens):
Imbue: 26.0
24 Constitution
6% Spirit
40 Hits
10 Strength Cap Increase
Utility: 38.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Left Wrist (Ceremonial Bracer Dex):
Imbue: 22.0
18 Dexterity
40 Hits
5 Dexterity Cap Increase
40 Hits Cap Increase
6% Slash
Utility: 34.0
TOA Utility: 20.0

Right Wrist (Ebon Hide Bracer):
Imbue: 30.0
6% Body
6% Cold
6% Heat
6% Matter
6% Slash
Utility: 60.0
TOA Utility: 0.0
 

Howley

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Gear said:
Left Hand:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
25 Constitution
25 Quickness
4 Piercing
13 Strength
Utility: 62.0
TOA Utility: 0.0

hmm....i have not actually read the DR notes but is this ur error or can vamps duel wield in DR ?? :eek7: come on..duel wielding vamp...rofl :puke:
 

Kaun_IA

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a shield?? on a vamp??

ftw, have i missed someting from the DR stuff?
 

Gear

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At CL 3 everyone can weild a shield and weapons, casters included :p

(invisibletank) said:
hmm....i have not actually read the DR notes but is this ur error or can vamps duel wield in DR ?? :eek7: come on..duel wielding vamp...rofl :puke:

It only gives the 5% blocking rate anyways, it's just a bucker, not that we'll run with malice and battler!
 

Enli

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Gear said:
At CL 3 everyone can weild a shield and weapons, casters included :p



It only gives the 5% blocking rate anyways, it's just a bucker, not that we'll run with malice and battler!
cyclops eye?
 

Howley

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Gear said:
At CL 3 everyone can weild a shield and weapons, casters included :p
It only gives the 5% blocking rate anyways, it's just a bucker, not that we'll run with malice and battler!

and u can still use magic while u got ur shield on ?? :eek7:

rofl...a WL wit a shield..ffs :twak: :twak:
 

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It's a lot more work but it's possible to come up with significanty better templates as SC wise we get a really big boost (and one we don't deserve, but that's another topic), so you can do a lot more than before:

It's now viable to go for 10/10/10/6 melee speed/melee dmg/style dmg/casting speed with decent resists, and 100 str/dex.

100con, 400 hp, 50af templates with decent melee bonuses should also be more possible.

Finally it's possible to fit atlantis tablet into a vamp template, that along with some casting speed gear will make a large difference to claw dps, especially in group rvr where people will have resist buffs (well depends on the group setup).
 

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"and u can still use magic while u got ur shield on ??"

I would point out that druids can cast spells with a small shield.

Anyway the reason to complain is that 2h tanks really get the short end of the stick when it comes to SCing, and 1v1 vampiirs probably need nerfing more than love.
 

Maoni

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Mirt said:
1v1 vampiirs probably need nerfing more than love.
every class has its strong and weak side tho
Vampiirs strong side is obviously 1vs1 but what if the enemy got a shield (and can spec in shield), what if a vampiir get shot at (no shield to engage with).
So yeah sometimes a vamp is the stronger one in 1vs1 but it all depends on what the enemy is.
 

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Enli said:
cyclops eye?

Artis are class designed, so no arti shield :p

Now enough on the bloody shield thingy, and talk about the damn template :twak:
 

Nix

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You could use these:

Arms
Name: Ember Tainted Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 22 Constitution
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 2 Piercing
Effect 6: 40 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 73.33

Or/and these:

Feet
Name: Vampiir Epic
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 All melee skills
Effect 4: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 6: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 61.00
 

Gear

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Nix said:
You could use these:

Arms
Name: Ember Tainted Sleeves
Or/and these:

Feet
Name: Vampiir Epic

Things missing atm are only energy resists and power pool / casting speed. I'd like to see Mirts DR template tbh, I know he has to have one ready by now :p

Regarding shield and casting, feedback has been send to mythic during beta and they decided to go live with it. There are lots of classes that cast spells with a shield, albeit in the case of vamps it's a grey area as spells cannot be interrupted.

It is a bonus, which I will use since it will be available to me, not one that makes or breaks my game tho, I'm still happy with what I currently have. The only negative aspect with more arties is that there is a chance that /use timer might be down when I'd need to use a javellin, and that would hurt.
 

Nix

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Oh you were a luwi so no need for extra qui on those boots :)

But with Battler sleeves you could maybe squeeze some more utility in and get GoLM? Cure rezz illness and capped ToA bonuses 4tw? ;)
 

Howley

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Mirt said:
"and u can still use magic while u got ur shield on ??"

I would point out that druids can cast spells with a small shield.

Anyway the reason to complain is that 2h tanks really get the short end of the stick when it comes to SCing, and 1v1 vampiirs probably need nerfing more than love.

well wat i meant was vamps use their left hand to use magic..and if ur putting a shield in there then culd u still use ur magic...well ok i get that u can use magic now, cheers.
 

Mirt

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Mostly been playing wow of late, but here's a template I knocked up a week or so ago. For what it's worth I think it's possible to do better than this.

Still 6% ToA cast speed seems to litterally be 6% more claw DPS, which is not bad going IMO. It should be possible to fit atlantis tablet into a template like this if you sacrafice some HP and maybe a little Qui.

Biggest problem I see with this vs my curent template is that you'll loose out a lot on ToA melee speed if you switch to LWs (I have about 15% haste with GS equipped, ofc this gets capped to 10%, but I can use a LW and only loose a little WS and a few resists).

Moria bracer is nice vs zephyr, since you can drink both a heal pot and /use the bracer for 230 + 130 hp heal (well at least that's what I remember the delv's to be).

Config Report
Stats
Str: 100/100 Int: 0 Hits: 312/312
Con: 75/75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 99/99 Cha: 0
Qui: 74/75 Emp: 0

Resists
Body: 26 Energy: 0 + 5 Crush: 26 + 5
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 22 Slash: 26

Skills
11 Piercing

Cap Increases
112 Hits
25 Str
24 Dex

Other Bonuses
10 AF Bonus
10 Style Damage Bonus
10 Melee Damage Bonus
9 Melee Speed Bonus
6 Casting Speed Bonus
4 Fatigue


Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GoV Vampiir
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 2 Piercing - 99 uncut Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Utility: 61.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Strength - 99 rough Fiery Essence
Gem 3: 76 Hits - 99 perfect Blood Essence
Gem 4: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Utility: 59.67

Legs
Name: Tempered Legs of the Unrepentant
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 19 Dexterity
Effect 2: 19 Strength
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 10 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 19 Quickness - 99 faceted Airy Essence
Utility: 59.33

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Cold Resist - 99 imperfect Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Utility: 59.67

Right Hand
Name: Vampiir Champion Weapon
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Piercing
Effect 2: 9 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Strength
Effect 4: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.67

Left Hand SC'd Small shield
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - 99 imperfect Dusty Shielding
Gem 4: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Utility: 64.67


Neck
Name: Sililia's Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 7 Body Resist
Effect 4: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Parry
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Fatigue
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of Lost Memories
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Constitution
Effect 2: 24 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 4 Body Resist
Effect 5: 2 All Melee Skill Bonus
Effect 6: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.67

Belt
Name: Duamutef's Belt of Dread
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 9 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 8 Body Resist
Effect 3: 24 Strength
Effect 4: 21 Quickness
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Heavenly Bodies
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 2: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 3: 80 Hits
Effect 4: 48 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 18 Constitution
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Left Wrist
Name: Bracer of Moirai
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 12 Strength
Effect 4: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 26.00
 

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"but what if the enemy got a shield (and can spec in shield),"

Run through > shield.

Of this isn't something you're likely to learn on vampiir, since it has zero worthwhile positionals...

"what if a vampiir get shot at (no shield to engage with)"

Charge + random banelord / gs javalin > most archers. Only scouts should give vampiirs any problems (and only if they engage, and you don't know how to run through).
 

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I like how you think it's fair to negate an entire spec line by abusing a design flaw. Vampiir's are retards.
 

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FallycSymbol said:
I like how you think it's fair to negate an entire spec line by abusing a design flaw. Vampiir's are retards.

Tests on critshot show that on classes that could not previously spec a shield get approx 2% block rate with the CL shield against arrows, not exactly negating an entire spec line.
The fact that all classes, scouts included will have a pow bar for the vamp to feed off should give you more concern than a 1 in 50 chance to block an arrow.
 

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I was talking about him running through. It's not hard to counter, but the fact that people try do do it makes me sick. :puke:
 

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I was talking about him running through. It's not hard to counter, but the fact that people try do do it makes me sick.

Good for you, because I don't give a damn what you think!
 

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Mirt said:
Neck
Name: Sililia's Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 7 Body Resist
Effect 4: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00

Now why do you have to put that? Cause you have it, I know but still :twak:

FallycSymbol said:
I like how you think it's fair to negate an entire spec line by abusing a design flaw. Vampiir's are retards.

Reading the title of this thread again leads me to conclude you're un utter idiot who can't read and is just trolling. Go hump a tower and wank your bow.
 

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Gear said:
Reading the title of this thread again leads me to conclude you're un utter idiot who can't read and is just trolling. Go hump a tower and wank your bow.

Oh come on then, what is it I can't read? Also, if you read my signature and had a clue what you were talking about, you would know that I play Camlann and we don't PvP in NF.
 

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I would like to point out that Vamps die like every other class

and I thought only classes that chose CL's with spells get a power bar.

Having said that, those 2 templates seem pretty solid
 

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FallycSymbol said:
Oh come on then, what is it I can't read? Also, if you read my signature and had a clue what you were talking about, you would know that I play Camlann and we don't PvP in NF.

You got any comments about the template? That's the title of the topic. No, so kktnx piss off.



Dafft said:
I would like to point out that Vamps die like every other class

and I thought only classes that chose CL's with spells get a power bar.

Having said that, those 2 templates seem pretty solid

From what I heard, other classes power bar will be based on strength (if they don't have one). Not sure tho if vamps will be able to leech power, if they are it's not something I personally like and has to change.
 

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Gear said:
You got any comments about the template? That's the title of the topic. No, so kktnx piss off.

/em trolls through boards, looks at a thread which might contain useful information, sees idiot post, comments on the idiot, another idiot retorts, continues trolling.
 

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