Valkyres midgards PvE toon?

Melachi

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Well I was planning on rolling one just for messing around on, was never going to be a main char and I start reading up on them...

They have lots of tricks and stuff for being very usefull to any high level PvE raids,

1) They have a rezz
2) They can get Egg of youth activated
3) Spear has a side positional chain with a 50! point bleed, thats massive damage on high level mobs
4) Soon they will get the Extra Attackers buff.


Now, they are no ML9 SM's, they wont solo Danos or Cyrek, but they will be very usefull for ML runs, for non focus artifact killing and dragon killing.

I cant wait to level mine and try it out :eek7:
 

Jeriraa

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Melachi said:
Well I was planning on rolling one just for messing around on, was never going to be a main char and I start reading up on them...

They have lots of tricks and stuff for being very usefull to any high level PvE raids,

1) They have a rezz
2) They can get Egg of youth activated
3) Spear has a side positional chain with a 50! point bleed, thats massive damage on high level mobs
4) Soon they will get the Extra Attackers buff.


Now, they are no ML9 SM's, they wont solo Danos or Cyrek, but they will be very usefull for ML runs, for non focus artifact killing and dragon killing.

I cant wait to level mine and try it out :eek7:

Tbh they aint PvE toons. I'm kitting a Valk for RvR. 50 spear, 48 OW, 23 shield, 22 parry (if I remember right). The damage from the Roundhouse style is really nasty (I hit the ML8.10 bossmob for 140ish from the proc alone and I was lvl 45). Sometimes I 3-shot orange con mobs and now at lvl 49 I am consitently dishing out 500-600 damage per Roundhouse to orange cons.

Valks have alot of utility and even thou they are hybrids they are up for some big hits. Also you can get your crit hit chance capped at rather low RR by getting Mastery of Pain and Dual Threat.

The only thing that worries me a bit is the hybrid weaponskill. Its gonna be hard to make a template with high +spear bonus and cap both, dex and str but I'll try my best and see what it plays like.
 

Melachi

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Jeriraa said:
Tbh they aint PvE toons. I'm kitting a Valk for RvR. 50 spear, 48 OW, 23 shield, 22 parry (if I remember right). The damage from the Roundhouse style is really nasty (I hit the ML8.10 bossmob for 140ish from the proc alone and I was lvl 45). Sometimes I 3-shot orange con mobs and now at lvl 49 I am consitently dishing out 500-600 damage per Roundhouse to orange cons.

Valks have alot of utility and even thou they are hybrids they are up for some big hits. Also you can get your crit hit chance capped at rather low RR by getting Mastery of Pain and Dual Threat.

The only thing that worries me a bit is the hybrid weaponskill. Its gonna be hard to make a template with high +spear bonus and cap both, dex and str but I'll try my best and see what it plays like.

I dont get it, you say they arent pve toons, but then boast about how good he is in PvE? :p

Also, i wasnt implying that they are only good for PvE, im sure theyre decent in RvR, well as decent as any hybrid can be...
 

Joohl

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Maby not the best template but for 10min work.
This also work for a 2h sword Valk, all +to spear are on player crafter items, easy to swap.
One item that can be a biatch to get would proly be Eye of Fornfrusenen, but as you build a template fast with no thought on how to get the items, thats what you get.

Code:
Config Report

Stats
    Str:    87    Int:    0    Hits:    240
    Con:    71    Pie:    36    Power:    0
    Dex:    72    Cha:    0
    Qui:    86    Emp:    0

Resists
    Body:    20    Energy:    25    Crush:    27 
    Cold:    23     Matter:    15    Thrust:    25
    Heat:    26    Spirit:    22    Slash:    30 

Skills
11 Spear
11 Parry

Cap Increases
11 Qui
80 Hits
11 Str

Other Bonuses
8 Healing Bonus
4 Style Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
12 Melee Speed Bonus
10 Fatigue
20 AF Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valour
Level: 51  Quality: 100
AF: 102  Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  40 Hits
Effect 2:  18 Strength
Effect 3:   5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4:  15 Dexterity
Effect 5:   4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6:   4 Style Damage Bonus
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1:  3 Spear - 99 rough Heated War Rune
Gem 2:  3 Parry - 99 rough Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Gem 4: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Utility: 65.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51  Quality: 100
AF:   102  Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  40 Hits
Effect 2:   5 Fatigue
Effect 3:  10 AF Bonus
Effect 4:  15 Dexterity
Effect 5:   5 Matter Resist
Effect 6:  15 Strength
Utility: 40.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Quickness - 99 precious Airy Essence
Gem 2: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 3:  4 Spear - 99 flawed Heated War Rune
Gem 4:  9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Utility: 65.33

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1:  4 Spear - 99 flawed Heated War Rune
Gem 2:  9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 3:  9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4:  7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Utility: 70.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1:  4 Parry - 99 flawed Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 2:  9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Gem 3:  9 Heat Resist - 99 polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4:  7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Utility: 70.00

Two Handed
Name: Spear of Kings
Level: 51  Quality: 100
DPS:  16.5  Bonus: 35
Effect 1:   4 Crush Resist
Effect 2:   4 Slash Resist
Effect 3:   4 Thrust Resist
Effect 4:   4 Matter Resist
Effect 5:   4 Body Resist
Effect 6:   4 Spirit Resist
Effect 7:   5 Fatigue
Effect 8:  40 Hits
Effect 9:   5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 10:     Empty
Utility: 58.00

Neck
Name: Beaded Resisting Stones
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  10 Body Resist
Effect 2:  10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3:  10 Crush Resist
Effect 4:  10 Cold Resist
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Harpy's Feather Cloak
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:   6 Crush Resist
Effect 2:   6 Slash Resist
Effect 3:   6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4:   4 Parry
Effect 5:   5 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 56.00

Jewel
Name: Egg of Youth
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  12 Acuity
Effect 2:  32 Hits
Effect 3:   5 Crush Resist
Effect 4:   5 Slash Resist
Effect 5:   5 Thrust Resist
Effect 6:   8 Healing Bonus
Effect 7:  40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 46.00

Belt
Name: Belt of Brute
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  30 Strength
Effect 2:  18 Dexterity
Effect 3:  48 Hits
Effect 4:   6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5:   2 Melee Speed Bonus
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Krojer's Quickness Ring
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus:   
Effect 1:  21 Quickness
Effect 2:   2 Heat Resist
Effect 3:   2 Cold Resist
Effect 4:   2 Energy Resist
Effect 5:   6 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 6:  10 AF Bonus
Utility: 26.00

Left Ring
Name: Eye of Fornfrusenen
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  24 Dexterity
Effect 2:  24 Strength
Effect 3:  24 Constitution
Effect 4:  24 Piety
Utility: 64.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:   6 Cold Resist
Effect 2:   6 Body Resist
Effect 3:   6 Heat Resist
Effect 4:   6 Slash Resist
Effect 5:   6 Matter Resist
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51  Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1:  18 Quickness
Effect 2:  40 Hits
Effect 3:   5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 4:  40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5:   6 Slash Resist
Utility: 34.00

might have to try with this since my Valk got triped from all item :)
 

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Melachi said:
I dont get it, you say they arent pve toons, but then boast about how good he is in PvE? :p

Also, i wasnt implying that they are only good for PvE, im sure theyre decent in RvR, well as decent as any hybrid can be...

aren't Valkyries women? ;o sounds good Valkyries and Thanes are getting some lub...but when is the Skald lub coming?
 

Jeriraa

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Melachi said:
I dont get it, you say they arent pve toons, but then boast about how good he is in PvE? :p

Also, i wasnt implying that they are only good for PvE, im sure theyre decent in RvR, well as decent as any hybrid can be...

She isnt 50 yet. Some duels against a RR7 spear-hunter are the only PvP I have done yet. Looked promising thou.
 

atos

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Trunks said:
aren't Valkyries women? ;o sounds good Valkyries and Thanes are getting some lub...but when is the Skald lub coming?

Skalds recived their ast love basicly... 2 new resist chants. 3 resists/chant..
 

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Jeriraa said:
The only thing that worries me a bit is the hybrid weaponskill. Its gonna be hard to make a template with high +spear bonus and cap both, dex and str but I'll try my best and see what it plays like.


hmm valk isnt even in hybrid weaponskill table, valk is atm lowest table.
even healer have higher weaponskill, just hint :)
thou mids basedmg love long time ago to spear rise valk in spear littlebit higher.

valkyrie is very good against orange mobs but higher con and you start see why valk isnt pve toon.
parry is only defense/+ shield + 1h if specc, chain, 0 evade.

valkyrie 1st rising attribute is con, secon str and 3rd dex.
there was some talks, about templates, capping hitpoints before con give you more.
valks eve whit insane high con have still "low" hitpoints.
 

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Imo the sword and shield valk is a pretty good PvE character the down side is the low WS and hp return for the con.

Edit: As Tuppe pointed out it is better to cap +hp before you start on con in any template, the hp return for con is simply horrible.

I've soloed (with a shammy bot ofc) clops shield encounter without a problem (most shield tanks can prolly do this). No doubt the new attacker code for the valk would have made it much easier.
 

Tuppe

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:) heh, did same whit spear valk + low mend spec shaman, luckily parry few times and could throw enough heals in.
 

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my valkyrie is 50 and she works well as a pve toon but that goes along with my 50 aug spec healer for red clerity.
 

Melachi

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Im not saying the valk is a good PvE toon, solo...
A warrior will be better solo than a valk anyday, im talking about in groups, epic style PvE..
 

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Tuppe said:
hmm valk isnt even in hybrid weaponskill table, valk is atm lowest table.
even healer have higher weaponskill, just hint :)

And who told you that?

my lvl 50 Aug Healer fully buffed: WS <600
my lvl 48 Valk (47 spear) fully buffed: WS >1700

Love when people know what they are talking about.
 

Melachi

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Jeriraa said:
And who told you that?

my lvl 50 Aug Healer fully buffed: WS <600
my lvl 48 Valk (47 spear) fully buffed: WS >1700

Love when people know what they are talking about.

I dont know what table Valks are on, but..

Healers cant spec in weapon, nor do they usualy have str in a template so of course their WS might be lower even if they are on the same WS table..
Also, your spear, which is on a higher table to sword..

Love when people know what they are talking about.
 

Tuppe

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^
correct.

healer have quite good weaponskill as healer class.
 

Jeriraa

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Melachi said:
I dont know what table Valks are on, but..

Healers cant spec in weapon, nor do they usualy have str in a template so of course their WS might be lower even if they are on the same WS table..
Also, your spear, which is on a higher table to sword..

Love when people know what they are talking about.

The weaponskill of my 48 Valk is comparable to that of my 50 Huntress when she was not TOA'd. Comparing Healer and Valkyrie weaponskill is like comparing mushrooms with apes and I just wanted to point out that it was nonsense.
 

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