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Bonehead

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With the patch 1.84 going on over the oceans and with the introduction on the third ML line (which obviusly will be Banelord for Valks), will the Zerk groups change to valks for todays RvR?

Today zerkers play mostly as interupters with thier banelordsthese. If they run too far, they'll get nuked to death. Because of this, most run to one target - hit it once - then turn back to their group. It's about the interupt. But from my point of view a Valkyrie with Det5, Charge3 and banelord can do they job alot better. Now add their new abilities, group IP (insta group heals etc). Will we see valks rather then zerkers in the future? Or will the zerker DPS still be more wanted then extra interupt?


(or will this be a hidden comback for our lonesome savages that we've almost forgoten, who will probebly also get banelord abilities?)
 

vavires

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Bonehead said:
With the patch 1.84 going on over the oceans and with the introduction on the third ML line (which obviusly will be Banelord for Valks), will the Zerk groups change to valks for todays RvR?

Today zerkers play mostly as interupters with thier banelordsthese. If they run too far, they'll get nuked to death. Because of this, most run to one target - hit it once - then turn back to their group. It's about the interupt. But from my point of view a Valkyrie with Det5, Charge3 and banelord can do they job alot better. Now add their new abilities, group IP (insta group heals etc). Will we see valks rather then zerkers in the future? Or will the zerker DPS still be more wanted then extra interupt?


(or will this be a hidden comback for our lonesome savages that we've almost forgoten, who will probebly also get banelord abilities?)

As a big fan of the valkyrie, that all depends. will our point system be affected, how the best specs are ect. Cause my valk > zerker in a fight(maybe when he goes zerkmode i might go down) As i hit harder with my spear then a zerker. So it will depend how a valk has to spec.

U could even say if u wanted a defensive group specced valk to go high odins/mend and go for parry/shield. Or go offensive and take sword/spear instead of parry/shield.

Dont forget valks have in their oding natural interupt spels and buffshears as well. Valks are gone be a great class with the right spec and the right template.(To say i just respecced my valk for 100+P and its as perfect as it can get, and now will have to respec when i have more details)

vav.
 

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yer the ml line thing will have big consequences on RVR but we need to see who gets what before we can comment.
 

vavires

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How u know of the 3rd line btw?
and is it only the valk?
 

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Somehow I doubt that valks will get banelord - jsut imagine the amount of interrupts we would have then ...

(i)ml1-10
(ii)pulse cone
(iii)insta cone
(iv)cone snare
(v)cone shear
(vi)insta single dd
(vii)aoe dd styles from spear line
(viii)Actully hitting things to interrupt

Would be nice to get all that , but somehow I can see us getting perfector due to the new line being a heal line.

I just can't wait to get my account back up so i can /who valkyrie and see if there is more than the usual 2/3 ones and to see how many are in mod :p

My personal thoughts are that ppl will roll valks , valks will be fotm, ppl will whine about op valks , heal line will be nerfed , we will be back to square one without evaid!
 

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Can't edit last post , instead of perfector I can see Valkyries getting access to battlemaster as they mythically guarded/guided the spirits of the dead to valhalla afaik :)

Not that I would drop Warlord for it tho !
 

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Samaroon|Terracotta said:
Wanted to roll a valk till these patch notes came out aswell :(

Quit your bitchen and roll it ^^ ill make you thid armor so you can try it out ! need more IA ppl on valks ! were a crazy bunch :>
 
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Agrigo said:
Quit your bitchen and roll it ^^ ill make you thid armor so you can try it out ! need more IA ppl on valks ! were a crazy bunch :>

Might do when savage gets 50, just so i can /level :D
 

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vavires said:
Cause my valk > zerker in a fight

Our duels seem to sugest differnt outcomes vav :)

Sam stop being a fool zerker all the way :)
 

atos

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Valk, savage and thanes should not get banelord. Banelord is an utterly retarded masterlevel line and it should be nerfed into oblivion.
 
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Meheh valks with banelord please :p maybe on pendragon/usa for a few months until they realise how silly it is then it will be changed before it hits euro
 

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why with this news does everyone think every class will get banelords? i really doubt thats what their gonna do. they'll probly give banelord to necro's or something because their a boring class and no one groups with them, they smell too, of dead things

i guess the reason their putting in this new 3rd ml line is because their going to fix/nerf some of the ml lines
 

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atos said:
Valk, savage and thanes should not get banelord. Banelord is an utterly retarded masterlevel line and it should be nerfed into oblivion.

if i remember right, you whine plenty about casters being OP on irc... and now you want the only ml line, which gives them trouble, nerfed? :(
 

Arkian

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Agree with raid, a banelord nerf would basically kill anything other than caster groups on the server. It's kinda horsehit atm with melee lag, circle strafing, PD, soldiers baracade, BoF, Warguard, Malice and all the other toys - and caster group vs caster group would be such fun.

Still could be long fights though, both groups trying to kite each other should result in no deaths as they run in the opposite directions.
 

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vavires said:
As a big fan of the valkyrie, that all depends. will our point system be affected, how the best specs are ect. Cause my valk > zerker in a fight(maybe when he goes zerkmode i might go down) As i hit harder with my spear then a zerker. So it will depend how a valk has to spec.

U could even say if u wanted a defensive group specced valk to go high odins/mend and go for parry/shield. Or go offensive and take sword/spear instead of parry/shield.

Dont forget valks have in their oding natural interupt spels and buffshears as well. Valks are gone be a great class with the right spec and the right template.(To say i just respecced my valk for 100+P and its as perfect as it can get, and now will have to respec when i have more details)

vav.

Valk isn't better in duel than zerker vav :) remember when we dueled (while waiting for late comers in DR) in west skona? my zerker killed your valkyrie hands down (yes I know you got new shiny template now, but I seriously doubt it won't make that much difference still - we can always duel again, if you want a rematch) :fluffle:
 
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vavires said:
As a big fan of the valkyrie, that all depends. will our point system be affected, how the best specs are ect. Cause my valk > zerker in a fight(maybe when he goes zerkmode i might go down) As i hit harder with my spear then a zerker. So it will depend how a valk has to spec.

U could even say if u wanted a defensive group specced valk to go high odins/mend and go for parry/shield. Or go offensive and take sword/spear instead of parry/shield.

Dont forget valks have in their oding natural interupt spels and buffshears as well. Valks are gone be a great class with the right spec and the right template.(To say i just respecced my valk for 100+P and its as perfect as it can get, and now will have to respec when i have more details)

vav.

They will be good with the right template yes :p for a start they get con from level if i'm correct which means they'll have nice hp.. soon will have heals/magic ablative... only downside i see to valks that will never change is they CANNOT front load like zerkers can no way at all can they drop 800+ a hit :p thats teh only flaw i see in valks even with the new patch their groupability will be questionable
 

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Valks won´t get banelord. Battlemaster or perfector.

I am willing to duel anyone with my valk. Haven´t lost so far :p (or well I let atos selfbuff and go unbuffed once) ;)
 

vavires

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Coolan said:
Our duels seem to sugest differnt outcomes vav :)

Sam stop being a fool zerker all the way :)

I got u didnt i? :) And ure a way higher RR then meh
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Banelord has to be nerfed before any other class gets it, got to agree with atos here.

Having banelord on my vamp, I can only agree. It is such an impressive line
 

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