US troops 'to fight' in Philippines

[Will]

US Troops going into the Philippines. They are a little overkeen aren't they? 350 special ops, 400 support staff, and 1000 marines offshore incase the rebels decide to fire back.

Islam - It's the new communism.

 

[Ash!]

Is there anyone who America doesnt want to kick off with and include in the "worldwide democracy" tour 2003. Coming to a country near you soon

 

[dysfunction]

America are b4stards


Especially when they are developing mini nukes to hit underground targets...

 

[~Lazarus~]

Originally posted by dysfunction
America are b4stards


Especially when they are developing mini nukes to hit underground targets...

I think thats a bit extreme. I know the tubes are dirty with lots of people, but thats no reason to toast them.

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by Will.
Islam - It's the new communism.

That's seeming very true lately.

 

[Ash!]

The old mantra was "Watch out for the reds under the bed"

What will it be this time round if in fact Islam is the new communism. Best answer wins errrrrrrrrrrrr... Let me think about that one

 

[~YuckFou~]

hundreds of US troops are to join national forces

"JOIN"

Help has been asked for, so they are giving it. Don't see the problem really.

If we needed help and asked the yanks, we would expect them to turn up wouldn't we?

I'm sick to be honest of bleeding heart liberals. If there are bad guys, that rule by fear, or threaten the general population then they should be vapourised, simple.

 

[TedTheDog]

The US troops have been in the country since just after 9/11 but have officially been "advising" and "training". When they went out on operations they were only allowed to fire in self-defence.
If you surround a terrorist camp in the jungle on a remote island you'd probably have to defend yourself quite vigorously I'd guess.

Theres quite a bit of terrorism in the Philippines, but most of it is modern day piracy and kidnapping for profit and is not politically motivated. The Abu-Sayyaf being the exception.
Thats what happens when you have 8000 islands and a police force so corrupt that the chief of police was found to have an american bank account with 90 million dollars in it.
Didnt do him any harm, he's now a senator in the Philippines.

 

[throdgrain]

Well in truth the USA is often seen as being too big for its boots, probably as we were not so long ago, but you're right in a way yuck, they can't do anything right for some people .

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by throdgrain
Well in truth the USA is often seen as being too big for its boots, probably as we were not so long ago, but you're right in a way yuck, they can't do anything right for some people .

To me, much of it can be accreditted so us Brits, we don't much like those Yanks and of course the media make a big deal out of whatever they do. Much more so than they would if it was France or pretty much any other European country tbh.

It doesn't help the USA's cause much when their leader is George Dubya Bush though.

 

[~YuckFou~]

Bush reminds me a little of Thatcher.

"You piss us off, we will stamp on your heads" kinda deal.

Works for me.

 

[Ash!]

Yuck.

Its the bleeding hearted liberals who are stopping the entire planet being vapourised. Lets not forget that before American and British intervention, Iraq and many other"regimes" we chose to demonise had no WoMD. We gave them the technology, the hardware and the resources to start building these weapons. It was us who financed these regimes in the first place.

As for liberating the Iraqis and giving them democracy its another nonsense. We all believe in the pricipal of democracy, yet the US decides to over look the UN as an ineffective inconvenience. America goes on about North Korea's nuclear programme. Yet they decide to disregard the Non Nuclear Proliferation treaty that stops development of new kinds of Nuclear Weapons and start the development of New kinds of Nuclear weapons.

The president of America demands bravery, honour and Valour from his boys and Girls off to the gulf. This of course is the same man who got his did to make sure he dodged the draught for national service. Double standards all the way though. And its because of that reason the world is in such a state.

If you are so against the bleeding hearted liberals, then why do you not demand action against Israel. QUOTE]If we needed help and asked the yanks, we would expect them to turn up wouldn't we?[/QUOTE] Where was the American help when the IRA was being publicly funded and bankrolled on the streets of New York to terrorise people in Manchester, Warrington, London ???

 

[Will]

Some background on Philippino rebels.

Abu Sayyaf are a hardcore Islamic group, that is true, though they are not the only Islamic rebel group in the Philippines. There are around 15,000 rebels spread between the groups, and (surprise surprise) it is a messy and complicated civil war for an autonomous Islamic region (moderate) or independant (hardliners).

I thought the US might have learned better, then again the Philippines is a former colony of the US.

 

[*Kornholio*]

Originally posted by blade07
The old mantra was "Watch out for the reds under the bed"

What will it be this time round if in fact Islam is the new communism. Best answer wins errrrrrrrrrrrr... Let me think about that one

"Watch out for dodgy looking bearded blokes wearing nappies on their heads under the bed" ??

 

[mank!]

Originally posted by *Kornholio*


"Watch out for dodgy looking bearded blokes wearing nappies on their heads under the bed" ??

RACISTM OTHERFCUCKER FFS

 

[TedTheDog]

And whilst America protests that the Iraqis are in breach of 3 or even 4 UN resolutions, they actively support and protect another country that is in breach of 68 UN resolutions and have been for years.

 

[Furr]

Looks like a 21st first century revival of the crusades

 

[~YuckFou~]

I take on and understand your comments.
I still stand by my original comments though

Two wrongs don't make a right. The US and the UK have both made mistakes in the past, making more mistakes now won't help. Ignoring dictatorships that seek to destroy their own people, or terrorist groups that kill innocent people will not help.

[scenario] We know that 2 planes are going to hit the towers. We know who is involved and where to get them. To strike against them will be controversial. "Wheres your evidence" " They haven't done anything to us" So do we do nothing and watch the towers fall? I think not. [/scenario]

Whats happened in the past is largely irrelevant, we cannot change what has already happened. We can however take steps to make sure that it doesn't happen again.

I'm not going to get involved in a long, drawn out, well researched arguement, I have my views, and unless something dramatic happens I'm sticking to them. I just felt like venting my spleen on the subject.

 

[FatBusinessman]

Originally posted by TedTheDog
And whilst America protests that the Iraqis are in breach of 3 or even 4 UN resolutions, they actively support and protect another country that is in breach of 68 UN resolutions and have been for years.

Yeah, it's odd how the US always appears to skim over this point...

 

[Testin da Cable]

perhaps that's why lots of peeps hate their guts?

 

[Will]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
I'm not going to get involved in a long, drawn out, well researched arguement...

Since Xane isn't here, there isn't much chance of that.

 

[.cage]

idiots.

Bush is a PR puppet for the real rulers of america: The nazi jewish mafia. They are the war mongers who are to blame!

 

[Furr]

.cage you sound like you read the hal turner show web site!

 

[.cage]

btw how are you lot changing your forum alias willy nilly ;(

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
I take on and understand your comments.
I still stand by my original comments though

Two wrongs don't make a right. The US and the UK have both made mistakes in the past, making more mistakes now won't help. Ignoring dictatorships that seek to destroy their own people, or terrorist groups that kill innocent people will not help.

[scenario] We know that 2 planes are going to hit the towers. We know who is involved and where to get them. To strike against them will be controversial. "Wheres your evidence" " They haven't done anything to us" So do we do nothing and watch the towers fall? I think not. [/scenario]

Whats happened in the past is largely irrelevant, we cannot change what has already happened. We can however take steps to make sure that it doesn't happen again.

Until then I kinda agreed and respected your point of view. However to say what has happened in this past is irrelevant is wrong IMHO. It is because of what has happened that world is on the brink of War. America just cant grasp why certain factions and nations dont like them. Dont get me wrong I am no lover of Saddam or his polices actions or attrocities. However we just seem to be cleaning up a mess we helped create ourselves

 

[Furr]

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[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by blade07
Until then I kinda agreed and respected your point of view. However to say what has happened in this past is irrelevant is wrong IMHO. It is because of what has happened that world is on the brink of War. America just cant grasp why certain factions and nations dont like them. Dont get me wrong I am no lover of Saddam or his polices actions or attrocities. However we just seem to be cleaning up a mess we helped create ourselves

I'm not looking for anyones respect, nor for people to agree with me.
They are my views, if we all held the same thoughts the world would be fucking boring

btw
Boost + Guarana = win.

 

[.cage]

Originally posted by Furr
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log in, and there you go

You're my man in a time of crisis, I thank thee, and bid you a good trip

 

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[Tom]

Sounds quite reasonable to me:

America is an Empire, with outposts in a majority of countries across the world. It wants Oil. Iraq holds about 20% of the world's Oil. Iraq isn't playing ball. America wants Saddam Hussein out, and a puppet in his place.

I don't care about the reasons, I care about the end result, which hopefully will be less Iraqi citizens dying in the long run, compared to lots dying if Saddam remains in power. Iraq was supported by the USA in the eighties because it was seen as the lesser of two evils. The technology they have to manufacture weapons was actually provided by the USSR.

And I'm quite sympathetic to the Israelies, who only took the land they have because the Arab nations declared war on them the day after Israel was established. Israel kicked major arse, and grabbed what land it could. Sounds fair to me.