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She sent a letter to a senator because she saw he was about to become a supreme court justice:

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The only Twitter link I put on was Trump calling her a liar on Twitter. That cannot be right. Just admit that for fuck's sake.
OK. More interesting.

As much as I hate Trump (and I do) - he didn't call her a liar. He said "why the hell didn't you come forward and report this to the police nearly four decades ago".

I get why women don't do this. I really do. But until accusation = guilty conviction then accusation needs to be in court.

I think this is what Trump is trying to do. Probably not for good reasons admittedly. But I'm asking you @Wij - what's the alternative?

Yes, it's shitty that Trump is casting doubt (not calling her a liar, mind - casting doubt). But when there's an accusation, and it's not been to court, there IS doubt.

If we don't use courts for these things, accusations can (and will) be used to manipulate who goes where and who does what at the highest level.
 

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The usual liberal response..ban it and it will go away.
I mean they've only hsd the entire human history to work out this doesnt work.
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Oh boo hoo. They're private corporations, they have no duty to support a lying sack of shit like Alex Jones, and in fact have Ts&Cs that he repeatedly broke (having had to write Ts&Cs myself for this very site's predecessor, you either enforce your own rules or you eventually get sued to oblivion).

I'm sure he can find a berth on RT or something, I bet they love him over there.
 

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Has dveryone been watching RT or something? People seem so familiar with it nowadays.
 

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That's what the rest of the world thinks of you America, but of course, Trump will be able to spin this to gain popularity from it.
 

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That will go down really well at home..oh look the leaders of the world are laughing at America.

Pretty well the final nail in the coffin for the UN.
Could they have done anything more destined to fuel patriotism, they really are a rabble of powerless idiots.
 

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That's what the rest of the world thinks of you America, but of course, Trump will be able to spin this to gain popularity from it.
I don't think it reflects what they think of America. They were laughing at Trump's outlandish boasting. It was about him.

/edit: Of course the right-wing nob-o-sphere will spin it differently...
 

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That will go down really well at home..oh look the leaders of the world are laughing at America.

Pretty well the final nail in the coffin for the UN.
Could they have done anything more destined to fuel patriotism, they really are a rabble of powerless idiots.

Interesting spin on that. Not that they would think oh look our President is an idiot and laughing stock of the world.
 

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Interesting spin on that. Not that they would think oh look our President is an idiot and laughing stock of the world.
To be fair - that's what Job thinks, and lots of people who voted for Trump will be like Job...

It's a religion, is Nationalism, the infantile disease...
 

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He's got a massive ego, of course he isn't going to forgive them, he's a petty orange cunt.
Genuinely great people don’t feel the need to make an audience sit through them boasting for half an hour.

I’m honestly surprised he didn’t get round to talking about his wang.
 

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Genuinely great people don’t feel the need to make an audience sit through them boasting for half an hour.

I’m honestly surprised he didn’t get round to talking about his wang.

I wish Mueller would hurry up quite frankly, starting to get tired of seeing this orange cunt in the news now, he's a waste of oxygen.
 

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Hiding to nothing tho:
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Yep. It looks pretty bad, and frankly, I don't care either way if Trumps nominee for one of the chief justices gets the job or not.

But it's becoming concerning that historical allegations, outside of court, are now interfering in public life. All down to the twitter #metoo stuff. Which is a conversation that needs to be had for women, but it also poses questions of justice and innocent until proven guilty.

If we continue down this road it becomes too easy to obstruct public office just by throwing in spurious allegations.

Dunno what the solution is.
 

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Hiding to nothing tho:

Yep. It looks pretty bad, and frankly, I don't care either way if Trumps nominee for one of the chief justices gets the job or not.

But it's becoming concerning that historical allegations, outside of court, are now interfering in public life. All down to the twitter #metoo stuff. Which is a conversation that needs to be had for women, but it also poses questions of justice and innocent until proven guilty.

If we continue down this road it becomes too easy to obstruct public office just by throwing in spurious allegations.

Dunno what the solution is.
It’s a sworn affidavit. That’s not just a random accusation. She’d have committed a crime if false. She’s also got security clearance. Her job and freedom are on the line.

This is the right thing.
 

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It’s a sworn affidavit. That’s not just a random accusation. She’d have committed a crime if false. She’s also got security clearance. Her job and freedom are on the line.

This is the right thing.
So it's going to go to court then I presume?

In that case, fair enough, but perhaps the job should be kept open until after the case has been heard?

And although this may be being handled correctly, which I hope it is, there's still a worry about newfound mob justice that seems to be encroaching...
 

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So it's going to go to court then I presume?

In that case, fair enough, but perhaps the job should be kept open until after the case has been heard?

And although this may be being handled correctly, which I hope it is, there's still a worry about newfound mob justice that seems to be encroaching...
She wants it to be investigated properly yes.

The Republicans don’t want it to be held open because they are worried they won’t have the numbers to do it after the mid terms.

This despite the fact they held up the last vacancy for 400 days to try to stop an Obama nominee getting on the court.

It’s all become too politicised and dysfunctional. It’s too difficult to get precisely worded laws passed now so it is left to the Supreme Court to decide the interpretation. Having the court majority is a substitute for having a congressional majority now and lasts a lot longer.

Anyway despite all that the guy has very credibly been accused of being a sexual attacker and there is no way he should be appointed until it has been investigated. The GOP is claiming that it’s a partisan smear which ignores the fact that no such claims were made about Noel Gorsuch.
 

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