Underpoulated..

[Yma]

I guess welfare will follow current relics doom, and be reset when the merge will happen. Did GoA officially said something about it ? That's what happened in the US servers iirw.

 

[Leel]

I think hibs are running far more random groups than the other realms. We are such roleplayers, we don't have to have the best setup to roam. I was in a group without warden last night, had two animists, and some of the time we were only 7. Got killed by thowen's group 2-3 times, ie every time we met them, but got a lot of kills vs disorganized albs near bridge, ungrouped or trios mostly zerging together. Well, I got rr5 and only got two hours of sleep before work:-P
Finally lurikeen raven ardent!

 

[Dakkath]

Thats the thing that annoys me...

I like Albion... I like most of the classes and know my way around them...

Even though, at times we out number the other realms, we do seem to have the biggest number of clueless folks...

Many is the time I've been in a grp running past a mini-zrg of Albs and thought damn if only i was a hib/mid... Free rps galore You don't often see that many clueless hibbies or middies (apart from the whorelocks - hey pip )in the frontiers

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was a lot easier to get rps in the other realms down to this...

 

[Killerbee]

Don't wanna start an old hatred discussion but overall Hib pop yesterday was 290 ppl. Ofc 30% of those was out in frontiers, but that's another story oO

Not less than the alb one then

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

Special Treatment....

Great post mate.. one of the most productive ones ive said in these kinds of discussions

 

[Shadster]

Hib? Not even in a million years from now. xD


Where do I sign up?

im trying to figure why he says this he in hib land and he finds hibs ???

 

[Brite]

im trying to figure why he says this he in hib land and he finds hibs ???

i think he started this due to getting zerged by 2fg + rangers while taking a tower early in the morning

but we eventually got the tower \o/

 

[Silverbirch]

Even though, at times we out number the other realms, we do seem to have the biggest number of clueless folks..

I dunno tbh, u got some damn good players, but I spose if u got the most players u gonna have more clueless than other realms pro rata

Made me laugh that though, still chuckling now, thanks for cheering me up Wist :worthy:

 

[pip]

Thats the thing that annoys me...

I like Albion... I like most of the classes and know my way around them...

Even though, at times we out number the other realms, we do seem to have the biggest number of clueless folks...

Many is the time I've been in a grp running past a mini-zrg of Albs and thought damn if only i was a hib/mid... Free rps galore You don't often see that many clueless hibbies or middies (apart from the whorelocks - hey pip )in the frontiers

I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was a lot easier to get rps in the other realms down to this...

haha dykekath

 

[Qbic]

Funny how certain hibs have a selective memory. Let me for the nth time take a look at what Mythic wrote in their patch notes:



It's commonly accepted that GoA is french and thus can't understand english. But, I would have expected the hibs that got this explained a million times to understand.

Yes, the bonuses are for low population. AND they are for realms facing difficult odds - or as Trollum names it: Underdog bonus.

Now... for your information on how things are on Excalibur:

Albion: 29.176.945 (AC: 2113)
Hibernia: 20.697.046 (AC: 1755)
Midgard: 27.462.985 (AC: 1826)

Albion 7 - 82% - 0% -100%
Hibernia 5 -100% - 0% - 100%
Midgard 6 - 98% - 0% - 100%

Notice how Hibernia here is grossly behind both Midgard and Albion in both Last week RP and Active Characters (AC). Yet their bonuses is near similiar to Midgards.

On Prydwen though, Hib is near equal in Active Characters and grossly ahead of Mid in Last Week RP. Yet they keep the RvR related bonuses and better PvE bonuses.


Now, no wonder the rumour is that certain GM's have specific favours on different realms.

The Mid/Alb E&Es have been yelling at GoA to fix this and even the bonuses - even to an extent where the Hib E&E are mocking the Mid/Alb E&E with the favourism GoA puts on this particular realm.

Special Treatment....

Well actually there are a few flaws in your overall statements. You get the bonusses when you are underpopulated dude, period. The closer the numbers get together the more even all bonusses will be. Problem is that they can't look at the population and the % that goes rvr. The situation on every server differs because a week or two ago the figures on excal were different as well. Back then Midgard was actually the realm with the least active chars but that has changed this week again. So trying to show these figures isn't going to do it because these are a mere reflection of a very short period of time. Hibs on excal are fairly able to keep their own tbh. I believe the bonusses are reviewed once every month and I expect Hib and Mid (on pryd) to be much closer together next review. You can't expect them to review the underdogbonusses every week cos that would cause a yoyo effect. I think they take the average of the past 4? weeks and use those numbers to calculate the new bonusses. You can't blame Hibs for enjoying rvr more than Albs or Mids at the moment. I am not saying this system is perfect but GOA can read English apparently......

 

[Boggy]

I think it's a myth that more Hibs RvR. There's plenty of times in this week and last that Albs or Mids have massively outnumbered us in the frontier. About the only time you consistently see more Hibs than other realm is when we defend one of our siege pieces, which is as it should be.

When we attack enemy siege peices we are far more outnumbered by the defenders if any kind of defense takes place.

In roaming generally we are about even with Mids, except once or twice when coincidence swings it in either direction. Only real constant is Albs generally being numerous. The trouble is that if on even one night Hibs outnumber others, someone who doesn't know their arse from their elbow will start jumping up and down and claiming it is proof we're not underpopulated.

This trend of some people taking unclaimed towers surprises me a bit. (a) There is no challenge to it, (b) it gets you nothing and (c) it doesn't cause a threat to the people you are taking them from. Still ... if you're a fish-in-barrels kinda person, go right ahead.

 

[Azathrim]

You get the bonusses when you are underpopulated dude, period.

To assist the players in low population realms, or realms facing difficult odds, we are providing additional bonuses for PvE and RvR combat.

What part of those patch notes are so hard to understand? Yes, you get these bonuses for being underpopulated. You also get them for facing difficult odds.

Matter of fact is:
- Hibs is more or less on par with Mids in population.
- Hibs does quite well in RvR.

 

[Nausilus^^]

Matter of fact is:
- Hibs is more or less on par with Mids in population.
- Hibs does quite well in RvR.

you forgot:

- PvE in Hib is easy-mode compared to Mid

 

[Tuorin]

What part of those patch notes are so hard to understand? Yes, you get these bonuses for being underpopulated. You also get them for facing difficult odds.

Matter of fact is:
- Hibs is more or less on par with Mids in population.
- Hibs does quite well in RvR.

Sadly 6 months on you still havent worked out why Hibs have underpop bonus. It isnt just what you mention, which is in fact partly correct. However it isn't the whole story. It is also the _fact_ that Mid and Alb due to the past had/have a) higher numbers over the first 3 years b) a higher stockpile of guild bps due to considerably more realm points for the entire realm and c) a more active population capable of being brought to bear.

Difficult odds also refers to the fact that due to having so many more guild bounty points, Mids could at the onset of 1.71 more easily keep all keeps and towers at higher level. If Hibs didnt have the 50% bonus offsetting costs or whatever it is, they would not have been able to sustain any highest level keeps for more than 3 weeks. Those were facts we calculated after adding up the entire realms guild bounty points.

Yes atm and for some weeks/months whatever Hibs have not been outnumbered in rvr and Mids in particular have lost numbers.

If we started today we would all have 0 bonus. Due to the sheer magnitude of the lead the other two realms have had for so long, GOA/Mythic factor it in to the way they calculate the bonus.

Without the bonus, Hibs would have had no towers/keeps 4 months ago, we had about 1/4 of Mid gbps afaik due to you having over 300 million more realm points than Hibs at 1.71 live date.

I know you can't think of the past, and dismiss people for mentioning it, but it appears to be part of the equation. Sorry.

If all we had to go on was last week, you would be correct, its not, and thats why the upop bonus is still in place.

 

[atos]

The sentance starts with the thread. Underpopulated, hib? etc etc. *explains to the roleplayers*

 

[Qbic]

What part of those patch notes are so hard to understand? Yes, you get these bonuses for being underpopulated. You also get them for facing difficult odds.

Matter of fact is:
- Hibs is more or less on par with Mids in population.
- Hibs does quite well in RvR.

Well you tell me exactly what those difficult odds exactly include lad; are they not having any relics for a longer period of time? Do they include the rps a realm can accumulate over a long period of time? Do they take into account an increase/decrease in % of population playing rvr? I don't know; do you? Thing is you can't measure this the way you can with underpopulation because it is put vaguely. I understand difficult odds maybe differently than you do (most probably I would say). It's not that hard to understand now is it? Fantasizing is nice and playing the victimrole is as well. I already try to explain to you that they take an average to count the bonusses (in population) which is fair imo. As long as it's not specified exactly what they mean by difficult odds this ain't clear one bit.

 

[Qbic]

The sentance starts with the thread. Underpopulated, hib? etc etc. *explains to the roleplayers*

Well often threads end up not having anything to do anymore with the first thread
Cheer up mate, I expect that Friday the new bonusses will be made public and implemented and Hib and Mid will most probably be more close together.

 

[Qbic]

Sadly 6 months on you still havent worked out why Hibs have underpop bonus. It isnt just what you mention, which is in fact partly correct. However it isn't the whole story. It is also the _fact_ that Mid and Alb due to the past had/have a) higher numbers over the first 3 years b) a higher stockpile of guild bps due to considerably more realm points for the entire realm and c) a more active population capable of being brought to bear.

Difficult odds also refers to the fact that due to having so many more guild bounty points, Mids could at the onset of 1.71 more easily keep all keeps and towers at higher level. If Hibs didnt have the 50% bonus offsetting costs or whatever it is, they would not have been able to sustain any highest level keeps for more than 3 weeks. Those were facts we calculated after adding up the entire realms guild bounty points.

Yes atm and for some weeks/months whatever Hibs have not been outnumbered in rvr and Mids in particular have lost numbers.

If we started today we would all have 0 bonus. Due to the sheer magnitude of the lead the other two realms have had for so long, GOA/Mythic factor it in to the way they calculate the bonus.

Without the bonus, Hibs would have had no towers/keeps 4 months ago, we had about 1/4 of Mid gbps afaik due to you having over 300 million more realm points than Hibs at 1.71 live date.

I know you can't think of the past, and dismiss people for mentioning it, but it appears to be part of the equation. Sorry.

If all we had to go on was last week, you would be correct, its not, and thats why the upop bonus is still in place.

Mate do you know by any chance which are all the factors they take into account for the underdog bonus? Tbh after this thread I am quite curious to know.

 

[Lokir]

recently checked and mid had 20 more active players 0,003%.

same amount of players as hib but without petspammer for pve.
Thats more time spent on pve witch should result in hib having
more players in rvr.

 

[pip]

Think is more bb than players

 

[Xxcalibur]

send more mids to rvr zones

 

[pip]

My name is pip not William Wallace

 

[atos]

Haha

 

[Takitothemacs]

Well news just in...

Hib/Pryd has just lost underpopulated bonuses.

See you on the field of war!

 

[Azathrim]

Where did you find that information Takitothemacs?

 

[Takitothemacs]

Where did you find that information Takitothemacs?

Direct from a GOA GM.

in my sig "E&Ears Volunteer - Hibernia/Prydwen "

It is also on the server mesage of the day and will be in the news tomorrow with patch details.

 

[Jupiter]

wonder what the sore losers will whine about next? basline stun, 2nd los check on shrooms, still not gonna stop hib rvr afraid, so pucker up















will get bonuses back come clustering anyways ( dont tell them)

 

[Gahn]

So i suggest both Mids and Albs get a party in game, pretending to be drunk so we can farm u a bit for happiness of all server cause we just lost n.1 whine subject and we must replace it quick with summit else ^^

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Well, you get to whine about warlocks, so it's a fair trade.

 

[Takitothemacs]

the benefit being that we get to kill warlocks... bonus