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Cynical ploy to keep power. They know that theres a strong possibilty that in a year or two they'll be unelectable.

Shameful tbh, and a waste of taxpayer's money just so a group of like minded people can keep their positions in government.
 

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My god, I can't believe that anyone would actually be enthused about keeping Labour in power.
 

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Why not? I have a decent job which is a safe as any with regards to not losing it, I own a house, have 2 cars and a very nice standard of life as far as I am concerned. Why would I possibly want the conservatives to come in and take it all away from me.

Cameron has about as much appeal as being butt ******* by a horse on viagra. They are to busy trying to be cool and like everyone elses agendas to actually stand up for something that only they believe in. Normal people hate an arse kisser and Cameron is one of the best.
 

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They getting an election in quick before the economy really hits the skids

Its going that way at the moment .. they know in 12 -18 months no one will be able to afford houses and loads could be in negative equity if the house prices drop to compensate

That and high interest rates they really want to get in early
 

Calaen

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No different to any other party strike while the iron is hot. Its all about popularity.
 

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didnt say it wasnt was just pointing out why they going now if they do cause economic situations further down the road would make it difficult
 

Calaen

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oh I have no doubt about that :) the majority of the population are sheep, as shown in the Northern Rock case.
 

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Cynical ploy to keep power. They know that theres a strong possibilty that in a year or two they'll be unelectable.

Nothing to do with "unelectability", Brown was never elected, his popularity will wain very fast unless he gets some kind of mandate, preferably within a year, remember what happened to John Major ?

Perhaps we should have a system like in America, the election is held on a predetermined day and leaders can only run for 2 terms.
 

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My god, I can't believe that anyone would actually be enthused about keeping Labour in power.

Look at the alternatives though Dami, none of them inspire any confidence at all.
 

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Why not? I have a decent job which is a safe as any with regards to not losing it, I own a house, have 2 cars and a very nice standard of life as far as I am concerned. Why would I possibly want the conservatives to come in and take it all away from me.

Cameron has about as much appeal as being butt ******* by a horse on viagra. They are to busy trying to be cool and like everyone elses agendas to actually stand up for something that only they believe in. Normal people hate an arse kisser and Cameron is one of the best.

What makes you think the Conservatives want to take it away from you?

The Conservatives are trying to be cool? Perhaps, but nowhere even on a par with Tony "Look Ma, I'm hanging with Oasis, Cool Brittania!!111" Blair. Oh, I forgot, a few weeks out of office and everyone is trying to pretend it's a totally different party now.

This economy isn't healthy. It may look healthy, in the same way that the people at the funeral home can put blusher on grandma,but its not the same thing.

I can't be bothered to go through the whole spiel of what is wrong in this country, from NHS to immigration, to prisons, to taxes, to housing, to blah and blah, but I will say this. I would rather eat used syringes every day for a year than vote Labour.
 

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In all honesty though, from what i've seen lately, even if it is just through the grapevine, Gordon seems to be doing a lot more than Mr Bandwagon jumper David Cameron.

I'm still in two minds about it though, i'm willing to give Gordon the benefit of the doubt, so i'll be voting labour this term to wait out and see if he can put his money where his mouth is.

David Cameron on the other hand just seems to be offering weak policies and is hammering the carbon footprint bandwagon like no tomorrow and in all honesty, i'd much rather not have this "go green" bullshit shoved down my throat.

If Gordon Brown manages to pull off what he says he's planning, then kudos to him, but David and Lib dems seem to be trying to get the health faddists and greenpeace bummers votes, and in all honesty i'd rather not have them behind the party in power.
 

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There is not a party in this country that can solve all of those problems, they are too deep routed.

NHS needs a serious reform, stop scrounging twats from taking the Michael with it will be a start.

Immegration, I do not think it is a bad as it is made out, Illegal ones coming in should be escorted to the shore and told to swim, People coming here to work legitimately I have no issue with at all. (we need them to do the jobs the people in this country think they are to good for)

Housing I have no problem with at all.

Taxes everyone gets taxed so I do not care.
 

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Wern't the tories planning on increasing them even further? :confused:
 

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I would rather eat used syringes every day for a year than vote Labour.

David Cameron has personally assured us we would get fresh syringes every day, the used ones would only be fed to young offenders and immigrants, as part of his recycling initiative.
 

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I'm a Conservative but I really don't like Cameron any more, he "had" potential. but its just going so wrong. He moved the party so far left that Brown has been able to catch the voters that he's been alienating. If anything Brown has been going more right wing than what the Tories have been doing lately, Scrapping the Casino plan, looking at revoking 24 hours licensing etc.

But we'll see what happens after the Conservative Conference. Maybe he'll stop being a wet fish and be an actually Conservative.

For grass roots information this is a good site to read ConservativeHome
 

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I doubt the ability of any of the parties to really do anything and the worst thing for the other parties is that they seem to lack any real policies of any type, at least not ones that don't make us either cringe, roll our eyes or know they'll break.

Overall I'm never that affected by any party that takes power but I just couldn't bring myself to vote for any other party if I bother to vote at all.
 

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Is that supercasino actually being scrapped? Should fucking scrap id cards too.

Oh and as for whether labour should be in power...meh. I have much the same view as Cal on this, I have just got a cushdy job in a sector of the marketplace that will never dissapear and only grow, I can afford to live where I like (within reason) so house prices, while sickening, are not a threat to me personally.

On the other hand, this government is wasting vast amounts of money on stupid projects that are mismanaged from day -1. But electing the tories wont change that at all, the projects will just be different.
 

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Come on the Labour!!!!!

If they get in again I'll be bringing forward my emigration plans.

Not that they're bad people - just that they don't think about the "human" in their decisionmaking processes - and their seemingly sound policies produce the opposite results of what they intend...
 

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Nothing to do with "unelectability", Brown was never elected, his popularity will wain very fast unless he gets some kind of mandate, preferably within a year, remember what happened to John Major ?

Perhaps we should have a system like in America, the election is held on a predetermined day and leaders can only run for 2 terms.

Strange, if he wasn't elected then why is he a member of parliament?

:touch:

You wait and see. People have forgotten the mess that the government has made of our pensions system, and that ol' Gordy sold off our Gold reserves at low prices. Little things like that have a habit of coming back to haunt a party.

Our present economic growth is built on the back of the last Conservative government, but bolstered by huge levels of debt. They want an election before the economy bites back - and bite back it will.
 

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It's just because Brown wants to secure his 4 years, go now and he's got a chance. Go later and the Tories might have found someone who's not a piss poor Tony Blair replica who might actually give them some clout (cos imho Cameron's for the chop).

Personally I think we should all stick the Libs in for a while. As they're completely inexperienced we might get 4 years of peace and quiet while they try to figure out what to do. Plus they could do a TV show on Ming, a sort of reality TV version of Yes Minister ;)
 

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I'm just waiting for the 'Flash Gordon vs. Ming the Merciless' headlines in the tabloids, just not sure where Cameron fits into that.
 

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I'm just waiting for the 'Flash Gordon vs. Ming the Merciless' headlines in the tabloids, just not sure where Cameron fits into that.
Dale?
 

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I really want Labour to win the next general election (not that i'll be voting for them),just so i can have a bloody good laugh when the economy does go tits up and see how they try to blame the last Conservative government.
 

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It wasn't great speech but it was a Good speech by Cameron, I especially liked the "If you're on welfare, are offered a perfectly good job and turn it down, your welfare will be stopped" idea, sounds good to me!
 

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It wasn't great speech but it was a Good speech by Cameron, I especially liked the "If you're on welfare, are offered a perfectly good job and turn it down, your welfare will be stopped" idea, sounds good to me!

Unfortunately its never that simple - where there are children involved, they'll not cut welfare, they daren't.
 

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Unfortunately its never that simple - where there are children involved, they'll not cut welfare, they daren't.

Dammit tom! that's a good point... But they should dare! These people have kids knowing that I guess, Our state system is too liberal, if they realise that the state doesn't give a shit maybe they'll stop having kids for cash. Or maybe a double whammy that if they don't accept the job no more welfare and the kids get taken into care. But that would call for a government will balls, which none of the main parties have.
 

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