UK Cluster future

[Arelas]

The only problem about avalon are the is german so i will not really have a change to play there as i not can understand german and even not like to see on it all the time.

 

[pjuppe]

Cant talk about the stealth world on Avalon tho, but I reckon its a mess

it's actually not all that bad. i've manage to have quite alot of fun fights between getting zerged with my ranger (which i loose the majority of since i suck). some enemy stealthers even leave me alone with a /hug and a /kiss.

i wish there where more organized keep sieges from all 3 realms though. and it wouldn't hurt if the mids gave up the relics for 10 minutes.

 

[Valgyr]

The only problem about avalon are the is german so i will not really have a change to play there as i not can understand german and even not like to see on it all the time.

U have played daoc for what 2-5 years? its not like u read all the ingame text.
The move to avalon/lyonesse was the best desision ive made in my daoc time, great action both in the zerg zone and in the 8v8 zone. the language barrier is over within a few days. only problem is scrolls but there are uk ppl on all 3 realms u can ask.

 

[krall]

omg i have to agree with a hib

the attitude on dyvet sucks. I play casual and not as much as i would like.
Real life commitments does that.

The problem at the moment is the fact that casters have all the power in the game.

Animalos the mid...casting through scenery is a classic in laby atm, the full group zergs of mids waiting at nurizane xroads to kill the solo albs just trying to complete quests.

the main problem is that whereas hib and mid have only a few guilds and maybe one/2 allainces, alb is very splintered and no real comradeship...

The leet players have really killed the friendship on the alb side, and when it got real bad they went to avalon..... left the casual players to put up with the shit they left behind.

I have admiration for CMand other like them for the raids they do....ok dont agree with the time that they play, but nothing i can do about that.

its there play time and notmine.

Prime time alb sucks..........guilds dont seem to talk to each other any more.
alliances are dead, but no gm's online to sort it

A) Think its even atm caster/tank, and I do belive tanks are better/harder at high rr.
B) Think it says it all when someone calls a FG a zerge.
c) ofc they will kill u. U are in an rvr zone mate. Thats why they made the quest in laby/frontier - 2get more ppl in the rvr zone.
d) Think its the same in all the realms regarding /as ect.

anyways would love to get a char copy or cluster - but hardly gonna happen - and if it does I forsee 3 EU cluster's. One german, one frence and the classic. Face it its a dieing game and GoA's attention i focused on World of Warhammer, but ofc they will make the monny they can from this games. Mates nothing last forever - not even daoc - thou it would be nice

 

[Maeloch]

Not speaking german don't really effect the technical side of gameplay much, but you do miss out on all the realmstuff or being able to interact with, co-operate or get to know any locals. While I'm not really wild on this side of the game, it's nice to get involved sometimes rather than being 100% isolated.

Just first impressions running around on skald last couple of weeks, is number of soloers is v low as a proportion of server pop and it's not really part of the culture. I think if pan eurocluster ever happens, will prolly be whine from some quarters on this issue when they find out what they've let themselves in for Specially if archer patch brings that lot out in numbers.

 

[Rate]

tbh guys, roll US - and await mythic to cluster the EU ones to US - or char transfer or something like that - it will happen eventually...

 

[Sarumann]

tbh guys, roll US - and await mythic to cluster the EU ones to US - or char transfer or something like that - it will happen eventually...

US and EU will never get clustered together,Wouldnt that mean that goa or mythic would have to give up supscribers?
Id say if dyvet ever get's reclustered it will be with another EU cluster
I wouldn't even consider US to be any option from goa's P O V

 

[Rate]

i guess the language part is a harder thing for them to do really... i was about to quit daoc, till i tried US rvr - what a blast ive had - its like early stage of european servers - just with toa/dr/laby etc

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

So time stands still somewhere and no evolvement takes place! Wow...

You should report this to the Nobel prize committee.

 

[Muylaetrix]

US and EU will never get clustered together,Wouldnt that mean that goa or mythic would have to give up supscribers?
Id say if dyvet ever get's reclustered it will be with another EU cluster
I wouldn't even consider US to be any option from goa's P O V

/agree

 

[ebenezer]

Im now playing both servers (merlin US) and EU...and its quite nice. I logg on and check which is most action etc. US is always some action though, while i really like playing solamnus, so i rather have some action on EU.
But i dont regret making another toon on US, its really nice there.
Lots of people around...the one i met are friendly and helpfull.
Try it out if you are unsure and unhappy on EU.
eb.

 

[raid]

US and EU will never get clustered together,Wouldnt that mean that goa or mythic would have to give up supscribers?
Id say if dyvet ever get's reclustered it will be with another EU cluster
I wouldn't even consider US to be any option from goa's P O V

Eh, why would subscriber numbers change?

If you still needed goa subscription to play chars on excal/pryd etc... And US subs to play chars on US servers. People would still want to play their old chars and pay subs where they used to.

 

[liloe]

Eh, why would subscriber numbers change?

If you still needed goa subscription to play chars on excal/pryd etc... And US subs to play chars on US servers. People would still want to play their old chars and pay subs where they used to.

That would be a bitch to handle for the two companies, as both are using different payment and safety methods. It would be a lot of work to keep the few Dyvet customers who are left happy. Also clustering with a foreign server isn't all that easy, because it would mean that GOA moves the server to the US, BUT that would also mean to give up the handling of the server, which is technically GOA's work (by contract).

Also don't forget that there is another company involved, which is the guys handling RightNow (GOA needs that company due to payment reasons. In the US, Mythic has the right to store and work with CC stuff, but in the EU it's harder and thus GOA is using a sub-company for that).

So you see, clustering between two companies is hard. It worked for Japan, because Mythic was already handling the servers over there and thus only had to move the stuff, the rest staying the same.

EDIT:
I forgot to add something. You can't just cluster Dyvet with the US servers, because there are also players who use multiple EU servers, so you can't simply make two accounts out of one. That would mean that ALL servers need to be taken into US handling and the login server there needs to handle EU and US accounts (well ok, that's not so much of a problem). You can bet that no company would let a big deal like that slip out of their hands and I think the contracts are fixed and not just going for a few years

 

[Caylan Raal]

I urge daoc retirement for you all!

Real life is so less stressful than daoc ever was

 

[Chamie]

We all want EN clustered with the German(?) servers but if there is anything we can do to get it that way we have to make some kind of signup such as a mythic (or goa) letter where we all write pretty much the same thing..

And then they will hopefully make a poll such as "Cluster avalon/lyonesse with prydwen/excalibur Yes or No"

But ofc the problem is prolly if it would work to cluster an English server with a German one since an English player cant even have English combatlog on a German server...
But most truely it's not impossible just prolly that it's more work than GoA will do .

 

[liloe]

But ofc the problem is prolly if it would work to cluster an English server with a German one since an English player cant even have English combatlog on a German server...
But most truely it's not impossible just prolly that it's more work than GoA will do .

Well it worked like that for Canterbury (that's the classic Cluster =)) ). The servers got all turned into german though and once that happens you can bet that the eng. population will shrink, cause not everyone will like to have a server in german. This would also limit every single attempt to get new english players started with the game.

The situation we're facing is hard, because no matter what GOA does, there will be lots of unhappy people. On the one hand there is customer friendliness, on the other hand there is the money. I think there are only two solutions atm and both don't look that good. Either it's clustering with a German cluster, which would mean a lot of stress and seriously, I don't want to play in the same realm with some people =) (then again I'd love to play with some others) and it would import all Dyvet problems to the german cluster in question and no, I don't mean any specific realm problems here =)
The other option would be that EA and Mythic agree to take over Dyvet into their network AND thus merge account databases, creating a monster of co-ordination. Another way would be to make accounts two-sided, so that you can use your EU-acco to log in to US servers (but vice-versa also logically) and Dyvet joins a US cluster in that way. Bear in mind though, that this solution is more than unlikely to happen, because we're talking over a lot of money here.

 

[Chamie]

Well it worked like that for Canterbury (that's the classic Cluster =)) ). The servers got all turned into german though and once that happens you can bet that the eng. population will shrink, cause not everyone will like to have a server in german. This would also limit every single attempt to get new english players started with the game.

Okey well then if they can't even find a way to keep English server on English then well good job ~~.
Not much to do then ;P.

 

[liloe]

Okey well then if they can't even find a way to keep English server on English then well good job ~~.
Not much to do then ;P.

Well it's technically impossible atm to cluster two servers and have everybody get their own language logs. DAoC uses server sided messages, which means that your client language only has a very small impact on the logs you get. Changing that would mean changing how the whole of DAoC works =)

 

[necromania]

Since when have GOA proved that they care about the UK cluster??

btw sent the Feedback as Requestet

 

[Chamie]

Well it's technically impossible atm to cluster two servers and have everybody get their own language logs. DAoC uses server sided messages, which means that your client language only has a very small impact on the logs you get. Changing that would mean changing how the whole of DAoC works =)

Well nothing is impossible, a lot of work as u say but the way it works now is totally shit anyway I mean there is a German client for daoc and there is an English client but it doesnt matter cuz if a German client plays EN servers he gets EN combatlog and other way around fixing this will take effort but it would save daoc for most EN players.
So saying it would be technically impossible is just an other way of saying "too much effort".

 

[Twinky]

Easy... give exc/pry cluster OF.. baddabing, problem solved ;p

 

[liloe]

Well nothing is impossible, a lot of work as u say but the way it works now is totally shit anyway I mean there is a German client for daoc and there is an English client but it doesnt matter cuz if a German client plays EN servers he gets EN combatlog and other way around fixing this will take effort but it would save daoc for most EN players.
So saying it would be technically impossible is just an other way of saying "too much effort".

You're completely right. Fixing the problem would cost more money than the loss of customers.

 

[Muylaetrix]

Well nothing is impossible, a lot of work as u say but the way it works now is totally shit anyway I mean there is a German client for daoc and there is an English client but it doesnt matter cuz if a German client plays EN servers he gets EN combatlog and other way around fixing this will take effort but it would save daoc for most EN players.
So saying it would be technically impossible is just an other way of saying "too much effort".

anyone can tell if the japanese users get english text now ?

 

[Arkian]

anyone can tell if the japanese users get english text now ?

Yes, they are now forced to play entirely in English

 

[Lethul]

instead of clustering dyvet with avalon, open up a chartransfer. problem solved!

 

[prodical]

well afaik GOA have warhammer. so i think that when war hits us, EA/Mythic will spring something out of the bag and offer those players who stay behind something like a char migration or eu to usa transfer. thats hoping i fear

 

[Hestethun]

well afaik GOA have warhammer. so i think that when war hits us, EA/Mythic will spring something out of the bag and offer those players who stay behind something like a char migration or eu to usa transfer. thats hoping i fear

hope they do that before tbh xD or maybe not

 

[Phantomby]

i love all your boundless optimism that GOA will indeed do anything for the UK cluster.

i truely have my fingers crossed for you all but i cant help thinking its missplaced faith.

 

[Coldbeard]

i love all your boundless optimism that GOA will indeed do anything for the UK cluster.

i truely have my fingers crossed for you all but i cant help thinking its missplaced faith.

It's not boundless optimism, I don't think anyone is optimistic about the future of UK cluster or DAoC EU at all, but we still clutch onto the little amount of hope we have left!

 

[Muylaetrix]

hope,

the sweet illusion,

is,

the denial of reality ...