UK and the royal family......

[Ctuchik]

so here i was watching this UK program Parkinsons(sp?) and this ex royal lady "furguson:something" comes up and after abit of chit chat she says well, i had 4 million pound in debt. but the royal family wouldent allow me to take a job to work it off so i had to take a divorce and move to USA......

so my mom and i started to discuss this and she said that the royal family isnt acyally charged of what they owe until its way WAY over their heads....

basicly as ive understood it, they just walk in a shop, says "i want that and that and that" send a bill. and then forget all about it..

soooo, my question is. what the fuck is going on over there??

if any of the royal family here in sweden would do something as idiotic as in UK heads would be fucking rolling....

i mean, not allowed to work because ur royal family?

 

[Ala]

^^ What he said.

 

[cHodAX]

Wha choo talkin bout Willis!

 

[Ardrias]

Well they should kill our royal family (swedish) regardless. Living off taxpayers, and then feeling great about buying fancy cars without doing a days work. Fuckers.

 

[Ezteq]

tbh i dont mind our royals but i do wish they wwould all shut up about diana im sick of hearing about her when she was alive now shes dead its still as bad get real news imo!

 

[Ctuchik]

Well they should kill our royal family (swedish) regardless. Living off taxpayers, and then feeling great about buying fancy cars without doing a days work. Fuckers.

well that might be going abit far tho

 

[Sissyfoo]

The only time I will EVER visit Buckingham Palace is when the heads of the royal family members are displayed at the gates on pikes! A worse bunch of freeloading scum I have never seen in my life! Even the scroungy, daggy, crusties in Bangor weren't as bad because they knew that they were scroungy, daggy, freeloading scum!!

 

[harebear]

Woohoo lets go torch the palace!

 

[Job]

I don't give a flying fuck about the Royals, but to call them freeloaders is hypocritical

Old Queenie herself does hundreds of 'official engagements' a year.

That usually means turning up shaking hands, smiling at endless strangers, watching tedious childrens plays, listening to another explanation how this garbage recycler sytem works...always showing feigned interest.

They couldn't pay me enough to live that life.

It sounds great in theory, but she must be holding in for 50 years, the overwhelming urge to shout

JUST FUCK OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course we could just take all their money and have them like The Swedish royals

But no one outside Sweden has a clue who they are.

Everyone's heard of our Queen, cos she's still rich and is the Head of state for loads of countries.

They are just characters in a big play, but they have to be aloof and rich...or it don't really work , does it.

I'm happy to pay for the Royals cos they are like our PR staff, good or bad keeping GB on the world map.

Individual jealousy at their wealth is pointless, their wealth is OUR wealth on show.

 

[Gelid]

Actually I've seen pictures of Buckingham Palace's interior in Hello! magazine (lol) and they hardly live in decadence. The Queen eats marmalade and toast for breakfast off a plastic tray, her phonelines are the archaic manual dial ones and the table she breakfasts at is one of those hideous 80's monstrositites. The room that George Bush had to stay in when he visited looked more like something from a traditional beach B'n'B to be honest.

Nonetheless I do like the royals as above they do a lot of PR for our country (even though some of them shouldn't be allowed to mentioning no names..!)

If I could choose anyone to be my head of state it would have to be the queen of Jordan... she is a goddess compared to most other royals.

 

[Archeon]

I'm pretty pro-royal myself, in my eyes its one of the defining things of Britan (England, whatever). Where I find your arguement flawed is that I just can't see the Queen wondering down to her local corner shop and getting some Jaffa cakes and a few custard creams and then not bothing to pay

 

[Sissyfoo]

Because she has flunkies that do it for her!

I have a cracking anti-royal rant ready to spew out but it'll have to wait until after I have cut the hedge!

 

[Dillinja]

The little ginger one has all that money and still can't even stay out of trouble. If he wants to act like a lowlife then they should make him live like one aswell.

 

[SilverHood]

I think Harry and Wills aren't too bad as far as Royals go, but Charlie boy and his mum aren't exactly something British people should be proud of.

And Ardrias, how can say that about the Swdish Royal family? Madeleine and Victoria = :eek2:

The Scandinavian Royal families do tend to cause less scandal than their British equivalents.... except for that twit the Norwiegan Crown Prince married (Marit or something?.... she should be locked up by the fashion police for that awful yellow dress she wore at some Royal function)

 

[TeaSpoon]

I have nothing on the royals...

...excpet wanting to twat Harry and Will with a bat...

 

[Job]

Not too shabby...but they haven't got blonde hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ezteq]

Because she has flunkies that do it for her!

I have a cracking anti-royal rant ready to spew out but it'll have to wait until after I have cut the hedge!

:worthy: rofl get flunkies tbh then you can rant at your leasure!

 

[Binky the Bomb]

Actually, if you want a real good laugh, remember that the British royal family are actually German! As for them not having jobs, thats actually bull-shit. The women are expected to marry, whilst the blokes are expected to run, or support some trust or charity, or join the army.

Thats the type of work they do, "Raising public opinion" on subjects of worth, or get there balls blown off in some dingy hell hole no-one has heard of. Mind you, it's not lke thats happened in 50 years. Come to think about it... when was the last ime you saw a royal on Television making appeals for charities? They haven't in recent memory. My god, there bloody hopeless!

And yet, we spend millions protecting them from people who say they should get off there fat arses and do something useful. We actually spend money on guards who can't even stop some crossdresser for crashing a princes birthday party.

Ok, now i'm laughing!

 

[Ardrias]

And Ardrias, how can say that about the Swdish Royal family? Madeleine and Victoria = :eek2:

I'll probably end up paying more for them before I'm dead, than I'd pay for a fine hooker. At least the whore gives head.

 

[Conchabar]

death to all royalty!!!

 

[Vindicator]

I don't give a flying fuck about the Royals, but to call them freeloaders is hypocritical

Old Queenie herself does hundreds of 'official engagements' a year.

That usually means turning up shaking hands, smiling at endless strangers, watching tedious childrens plays, listening to another explanation how this garbage recycler sytem works...always showing feigned interest.

They couldn't pay me enough to live that life.

It sounds great in theory, but she must be holding in for 50 years, the overwhelming urge to shout

JUST FUCK OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course we could just take all their money and have them like The Swedish royals

But no one outside Sweden has a clue who they are.

Everyone's heard of our Queen, cos she's still rich and is the Head of state for loads of countries.

They are just characters in a big play, but they have to be aloof and rich...or it don't really work , does it.

I'm happy to pay for the Royals cos they are like our PR staff, good or bad keeping GB on the world map.

Individual jealousy at their wealth is pointless, their wealth is OUR wealth on show.

A fine piece of Pro-Royal Text there !

Im not british but if we had Royals in Ireland I would respect them if they did the same kind of work the British royals do. As said, they are a form of PR for your country and to alot of outsiders it is how they view you and your country im sure.

death to all royalty!!!

Dude I fucking love your avatar :worthy: !

 

[Sissyfoo]

A fine piece of Pro-Royal Text there !

Im not british but if we had Royals in Ireland I would respect them if they did the same kind of work the British royals do. As said, they are a form of PR for your country and to alot of outsiders it is how they view you and your country im sure.

What with England's other PR coming from Blair the Brown-noser, Posh and Becks and Football Hooliganism...Abu Hamza would do a better PR job than all those combined.

 

[Sigurd]

Without the Royal Family Britain is just another jumped up western superstate, bound to fall with america. We've lost enough of our identity and history... why lose the rest? Just because some worthless muppet isn't making enough money burgling the middle classes' houses, they want to see the Royal Family dead? Get a grip

 

[Galie]

Being a history student, as well as being British, I'd like to claim I know a little about the British monarchy. As far as the thread goes, well...

Its pretty much gibberish, nobody seems to have any idea about what the role of the monarchy is, why it exists and what could be done to make it better suit present day situation.

First off Fergie, isn't part of the royal family, like Diana wasn't at the time of her death. Secondly members of the royal family are given what could be called an allowance from the British government to live off, for their offical duties, apart from the wealth they have emassed (or retained depending how you look at it) themselves. What they do with that is their own business like anyone elses wages, whether they get in debt is of no real significance.

As far for the Sweedish royal family, it is hardly realistic to compare them to the British royal family. Its laughable to look upon them in the same light. Through my studies I occassionably happen upon information about them and well without going into specifics, they have left little or no impression on me. They are in historical terms an irrelivance. It not like anything they ever did, or probably will do effects anything of any significance in the world. I suppose here you can argue they are profiting from doing nothing of any significance.

And as for the role the British Royal Family play in modern British society, I must admit hypothetically you could imagine better heads of state, but more importantly in reality no better head of state exist anywhere else in the world which is something to be very proud of.

What would you rather have a politicised head of state like the French President? Then instead of a "Scrounging" head of state "Embezzling" one, and at least with a "beggar" they only take what they are given rather then a "thief" that takes whatever they can get away with.

Luther once said of the diposing of Kings and Princes, "why run the risk of removing a Prince you dislike, when all it achieves is the chance for an even more dislikeable Prince to take over". When the French Chopped of Louis the XVI head all they got in reward was Napoleon. After the russians got rid of the Tsar, Lenin and Stalin. After William the Second of Germany abdicated due to revolution Germany got a string of Generals and eventually Hitler.

Only fools criticise something they know nothing about. I think the royal family deserve what we give them, for what they give us. It is much easier to forget all the great things they have achieved then remember. We pay modern politicans a lot more for doing a lot less in my opinion.

Maybe its becuase you are not British you can't understand the positive influence of monarchy, maybe its because its convenient to blame them for problems created elsewhere. I don't know, all I know is that we British are luckier then any other nation when it came to our royal family.

 

[Job]

Quite a reply Galie
Must agree most anti-royal rants do come from ignorance, though there are plenty of sensible reasons for geting rid of them, usually 'shoot the fuckers' comes from people who follow it up with 'all coppers are bastards' then 'why dont I get paid as much as my boss?'

People with no understanding whatsoever of the workings of the world around them except for the things they come across in their daily lives or read about in headline grabbing tabloids.

My only real problem with them is they are the chief support for the class structure in this country, which still revolves around birth right.
The Americans have let this go and anyone can rise to the top by making money, your beginnings don't mean jack shit to them.

 

[old.Tohtori]

If someone lived in Helsinki, could go anywhere, atke anything, eat anything, drive whatever the hell he/she wants, have sex with anyone, DO ANYTHING...


...i wouldn't care. It's only one person, the royal family? About 5? Woohoo. It's not like they're coming to your home and eating your granny.

They(or someone in their line of royalies) did something enough to get to that point so bless them and their greedy, overpampered hearts.


(Disclaimer: This post is neither pro or anti royal family. Unless we're talking about the finnish rap group. Then we have a problem.)

EDITORIAL: Oh by the way... princess viccy from our lovely neighborland sweden...*coughs*...yes please

 

[Ezteq]

My only real problem with them is they are the chief support for the class structure in this country, which still revolves around birth right.
The Americans have let this go and anyone can rise to the top by making money, your beginnings don't mean jack shit to them.

i think the royals are more like ambassidors tbh and its quite nice we have a traditional bit of fluff like them to boast about but i cant think of one time when i've actually thought of them as being powerful, i know the queen has to OK the discions made in parlament but its the prime minister i think whos really running the country (saints preserve us from the lipless wonder and his demon wife) and any one who wants a shot at that job can have a go (or if you watch yes minister, you'll know its really the civil servants who run england "go sir humphery!!!")

 

[old.Whoodoo]

While I sway gently towards being anti-royal, my regret would come if it happened and we turned into the 52nd State of America. Lets face it politicians run this gaff, and given half a chance (and a blow job) Tony "We make our own decisions - honest" Blair would hand us over in the blink of the charging light on his US made vibrator.

OK, my beef is, the monarchy as a whole make up the one of the richest families in the world, and thats in what they personally own, not state owned (if there is anything left). Charlie himself earns in excess of 9mil a year from his private businesses. As others have said, hes only got to that because he was born with a silver spoon up his arse.

Consider those concessions or "wages" they receive for their duties (i hear others saying but they earnt it etc etc), as a wage. You can justify say £2000 a week just to shake an old biddies hand who will probably die in the next winter because she cant afford heating? Bollocks.

Every year we raise monies in this counrty to help those less fortunate than ourselves, here and abroad. Yet the totals we make in those events dont even compare to the wages earnt by the royals. To them pocket change, to us in the real world, tomorrows meal ticket.

Im with the "FLAGSHIP" approach to them, the queen does make a good ambassador, but charlie, not a hope, wills and 'arry, wot a pair of tossers, who if you met them in a pub, you'de probably stamp on their faces for talking like that. One did drugs, the other attracts women because of his status in life, who when riding the royal willeh probably dream of the fat wallet and a random Arsenal player rather than face the reality that if they had no cash and were not royal, they couldnt pull miss grotty 2004 for all the tea in china. (shit im ranting again). The tradition to it all is still there, but comparing the Silver Jubilee (1977) the the last one, ppls patriotism towards the Royal Events has really gone down hill.

As i started, life with just politicians in charge here would probably be worse, pay em less, tax em the same as the rest of us, and well be on track again.

 

[yaruar]

As a not to all the people who consider the royals freeloaders.

The civil list exists for a reason. In the past the Monarchy gave the british givernment huge sums of their wealth, the money payed back to them is based around this. + The civil list has been cut back severely in the last 20 years, there are now very few people who are actually entitled to it.

Personally i'm not hugely pro or anti royals, they serve a purpose and I pity them in many ways, they do a lot of good work for the country and for individuals and draw people to this country in terms of business and tourism.

 

[Ickleevul]

The revenue generated by the Royal Family far outweighs the cost of keeping them.
I really cant see 1000's of fat burger munching yanks waddling around london for a glimpse of our Primearsehat Blair. If for no other reason, we keep them than because america hasnt got any.

Saddens me to say, but I think the writings on the wall for the Royals.
As this country strives to be multicultural and politically correct to the extreme, we, as English, are losing our sense of national identity.