typical ?

[Bahumat]

america have pendragon they do this on

not sure of the uk name nor if it was ever setup

 

[Yeppy Kinkster]

oO I didn't know you could do that.




Ooooh... Sarcasm. I get it =)

Wtf?! it wasn't sarcasm! I would actualy activate my acc to play my hero on camlann... ><

 

[Lothandar]

says the diva guy that tought just cause u think u are "leet" on normal servers u would be on camlann aswell, u dont suck but u arent uber either

Actually rvr elite guilds > pvp elite guilds.


Not meaning to sound rude or anything, but the quality of fg vs fg combat was waaaaaaaay above camlann in the past on normal servers. (as opposed to common belief.)

Edit: It still is, if any fg vs fg happen that is , which is not common now as most fg guilds stopped playing, including mine. Way too many zerglings and nf is just too big for roaming fgs to find each other for a decent amount of fights.

 

[Pinp]

Actually rvr elite guilds > pvp elite guilds.


Not meaning to sound rude or anything, but the quality of fg vs fg combat was waaaaaaaay above camlann in the past on normal servers. (as opposed to common belief.)

Edit: It still is, if any fg vs fg happen that is , which is not common now as most fg guilds stopped playing, including mine. Way too many zerglings and nf is just too big for roaming fgs to find each other for a decent amount of fights.

Wrong.

Camlann skill > RvR server skill mate!

 

[Keeg]

america have pendragon they do this on

not sure of the uk name nor if it was ever setup

Pendragon is their test server, when they test a new thing like for instance with NF u could transfer ur char there to check it out....

 

[Lothandar]

Wrong.

Camlann skill > RvR server skill mate!

Prezent me the list of camlann skillzor gankzor we-won-mez-you're-screwed videos megam8! No, I don't want any videos which includes the same starting zone

 

[rvn]

Wrong.

Camlann skill > RvR server skill mate!

then again how would you know, since you have only played one of the parts

 

[Kicks]

tbh this debate is old

In pure 8v8 setup with no leechers/adds guarenteed I reckon the RvR guilds would win. However, Camlann is not leech/add free and because of that a Camlann set 8v8 grp will do better if adds/leeches are involved (on EITHER side) than RvR grp in the same circumstances.

It's like the old US v EU server debate, it's all opinion and not gonna be proved one way or another ever.

 

[old.windforce]

tbh rvr > pvp is big bullshit

played in the best RvR groups and in very good PvP groups. Not much difference in skill. Only difference is mix of classes is different and adding.

Saying Horde group sucks is bullshit. Horde is not a group, rarely plays in same set-up. Sometimes its a very strong group, sometimes it isn't

Diva however. Can't say they suck because they ar enever out to pk fg. Kinda hard when you can't wtf pwn i guess

 

[fl3a]

who are you?

 

[Lothandar]

tbh rvr > pvp is big bullshit

It isn't, I would've slapped my healers-in-duty dead if they stood in the middle of fights waiting to be interrupted and mezzed like I see daily in goth from very talented fg roamers. (Who fyi, mostly kill soloers and duoers, lolage wot skeel)

At least I got stealth and can happily avoid them ><

Watch rvr fg videos, then watch camlann ones, if any. I don't think further explanation is needed. I enjoy camlann, don't get me wrong, but believe me it isn't the "omg top rox" server, regarding the guilds which run in groups of 8.

 

[Ame]

who are you?

The Question is who are you, and how did you get into my inpregnable fortress without permission of His Highness?

 

[Ame]

It isn't, I would've slapped my healers-in-duty dead if they stood in the middle of fights waiting to be interrupted and mezzed like I see daily in goth from very talented fg roamers. (Who fyi, mostly kill soloers and duoers, lolage wot skeel)

At least I got stealth and can happily avoid them ><

Watch rvr fg videos, then watch camlann ones, if any. I don't think further explanation is needed. I enjoy camlann, don't get me wrong, but believe me it isn't the "omg top rox" server, regarding the guilds which run in groups of 8.

I notice that healers on camlann just generally hide behind a wall, or some huge tree/stone and just spam spreadheal ><. Higgy does this alot! Is this true in normal RvR, since I don't really have time to sit back and watch the fight there with my chars (non stealthers).

 

[Lothandar]

I notice that healers on camlann just generally hide behind a wall, or some huge tree/stone and just spam spreadheal ><. Higgy does this alot! Is this true in normal RvR, since I don't really have time to sit back and watch the fight there with my chars (non stealthers).

OF fg vs fg combat took place in open areas so you didn't really have the "oh look a tent, let me hide in it and spam spread lookie" possibility, positioning was important. I was meaning Healers anyway whose goals are not only spamming spread but ccing away as well. Standing in 500-600 range is not going to help the case.

 

[Doink-666]

cba to read all the other threads tbh but way I see it would rather not even say anything and just mo ya over, less typing anyhow and as for spreadhealing round corners etc etc <this jst caught my eye> I have never done this at all! its so cheap and and and...

 

[Lothandar]

cba to read all the other threads tbh but way I see it would rather not even say anything and just mo ya over, less typing anyhow and as for spreadhealing round corners etc etc <this jst caught my eye> I have never done this at all! its so cheap and and and...

Liar liar!


On a serious note: Nothing wrong with using the terrain, just that when people roam the fights don't take place in castles and towns.

 

[Shady-]

rr3 semi toa:ed anyone?

anyway, we dont have serious ppl enough as some of them irl when we are supposed to play :<<<

You are an another example of rvr noob,yelling everywhere "i roxxed on rvr",but being at the same time unorganisated,without decent leadership even for compleating pve part ^^That's YOUR problem that cant get rr/full toa sc after half year of playing.

Actually rvr elite guilds > pvp elite guilds.


Not meaning to sound rude or anything, but the quality of fg vs fg combat was waaaaaaaay above camlann in the past on normal servers. (as opposed to common belief.)

Edit: It still is, if any fg vs fg happen that is , which is not common now as most fg guilds stopped playing, including mine. Way too many zerglings and nf is just too big for roaming fgs to find each other for a decent amount of fights.

What doesnt let your "leet" rvr guilds to meet in old frontiers and fight there?You probably would get even worser thing then on camlann and there will not be more then 2-3 semi-decent guilds to fight.
In the past (pretoa) the quality of fg v fg fights was higher on camlann then on excal.RL friend played sorc in BF and i looked sometimes those "leet combats" against ur "leet hibbies" ,didnt get anything exept laugh.Dont wanna mention "leet" mids,who had best tanks and best support(overpowered prenerfed savages,desease,3 demezzers/semihealers,e.t.c.),who couldnt see any challenge from other realms.

 

[enkor]

http://koti.welho.com/inivari/addfight1-2.avi

camlann skeelz vs rvr skeelz

(ps. its a crappy movie, i know; dont ruin my hosting pls )

 

[Shady-]

zerging skeelz worth to look only 1rst fight before adding,where "l33t excal inviders" were sucking to horde

 

[Tomtefan]

Camlann hasn't ever and will never get the same quality of FGs, the competition doesn't really motivate into optimizing much and seriously; Which guild can fairly say tha t they are playing 100% optimizied currently?

Lios Alfar which is supposed to be 'all the rage' just seems to be a group of casters which believe in f8 + nuke. Most other groups on PvP are also filled with people who still believe that 2h tanks are the way to deal proper damage etc etc.

Before someone actually creates a group out of decent players with decent classes and put them in proper templates with ml10 I doubt camlann will ever pose a challenge compared to the challenge the RvR servers provide. (And no this hasn't been done until now by any guild)

 

[Pinp]

Camlann hasn't ever and will never get the same quality of FGs, the competition doesn't really motivate into optimizing much and seriously; Which guild can fairly say tha t they are playing 100% optimizied currently?

Lios Alfar which is supposed to be 'all the rage' just seems to be a group of casters which believe in f8 + nuke. Most other groups on PvP are also filled with people who still believe that 2h tanks are the way to deal proper damage etc etc.

Before someone actually creates a group out of decent players with decent classes and put them in proper templates with ml10 I doubt camlann will ever pose a challenge compared to the challenge the RvR servers provide. (And no this hasn't been done until now by any guild)

Ruin > RvR nubs =o

 

[rvn]

You are an another example of rvr noob,yelling everywhere "i roxxed on rvr",but being at the same time unorganisated,without decent leadership even for compleating pve part ^^That's YOUR problem that cant get rr/full toa sc after half year of playing.

half year playing? LOL

spew some more bullshit will you

 

[Shady-]

the competition doesn't really motivate into optimizing much and seriously;

100% agree ^^

Lios Alfar which is supposed to be 'all the rage' just seems to be a group of casters which believe in f8 + nuke.

Weren't they best on their rvr server?

Camlann hasn't ever and will never get the same quality of FGs

Wrong.I played since the begining of camlann and there were few "optimized groups with perfect balance and decent players".I can remind:
1) Kure's main group,existed about 1,5-2 years ago.Guild Requiem was based on this group,was 1 fg guild at the begining.
2) My group in requiem,existed 1,3-1,2+ years ago.Was no real competition --> split,i stoped to play healer and rerolled warr.
3) Spices group,existed 1,2-1years ago.A group of RL friends from Poland.
4) Malice,existed 1,2-till toa release.
And nothing since toa cos nobody wanted to finish MLs(except lios and zerg alliance guilds),cos "the competition didn't really motivate into optimizing much and seriously"

 

[Shady-]

half year playing? LOL

spew some more bullshit will you

How long do you play? Didn't you start half year ago with words "all camlanners are fooking unskilled noobs",but was being raped at the same time by fg of random guild number 10024,dont even remember the name.Its level of skill was on gde/bannis lvl heh.

 

[djsmiley]

How long do you play? Didn't you start half year ago with words "all camlanners are fooking unskilled noobs",but was being raped at the same time by fg of random guild number 10024,dont even remember the name.Its level of skill was on gde/bannis lvl heh.

Jeez! If you could claim this high sense of grammer in your programming at uni, im sure you would bypass me and seth by miles....

... oh wait.... you did ......


Anyone else thats thinking "WTF?", Dont worry, just me letting shady know that i registered here

/Thread_Hijack

 

[rvn]

How long do you play? Didn't you start half year ago with words "all camlanners are fooking unskilled noobs",but was being raped at the same time by fg of random guild number 10024,dont even remember the name.Its level of skill was on gde/bannis lvl heh.

how many times have you see it work smooth when you take just 8 players to a new server and start up a guild there?, its enough that 1 is away everday and we cant rvr/pve etc, and when we did play with opted grp in old hibb we pretty much steamrolled most grps, nexus put up nice fights but thats about it (with a average of rr4 group/half toa:ed)

and try starting a new server when everyone else is rr8, chains you when you are exping/doing artifacts (this when you dont have sc yourself, and are logging in 2 - 3 chars - because we have some irl weak ppl in guild ). that takes some time to get finished with. (this however is purely the pve part)

most players on camlann purely focus on the chaining/annoying part, other than fair/fun fight, could really be nice pvp here, but too many are just rp horny or unmature.

 

[Shady-]

Have nothing against ur starting at camlann,cos more fgs means more fun,but the way you did it...Is it time to say sorry for those words,what were posted by Uger with ghay comments on a forum? I copy/paste'd em there : " https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=25528 " ?

 

[Lethul]

how many times have you see it work smooth when you take just 8 players to a new server and start up a guild there?, its enough that 1 is away everday and we cant rvr/pve etc, and when we did play with opted grp in old hibb we pretty much steamrolled most grps, nexus put up nice fights but thats about it (with a average of rr4 group/half toa:ed)

and try starting a new server when everyone else is rr8, chains you when you are exping/doing artifacts (this when you dont have sc yourself, and are logging in 2 - 3 chars - because we have some irl weak ppl in guild ). that takes some time to get finished with. (this however is purely the pve part)

most players on camlann purely focus on the chaining/annoying part, other than fair/fun fight, could really be nice pvp here, but too many are just rp horny or unmature.

im not weak irl

and i have to agree on the last part, why does fg sit and camp gothwaithe and stuff, thats just sow boring. the main reason why im mostly back on excal, when we ran a night or two in inner hib before my long stealthafkirl it was quite fun actually.

another annoying part with camlann is the lagg, maybe its just me not used playing a tank since NF but doenst camlann lagg a lot more? i can stick and sprint with speed on ppl without speed and it takes ages before first hit lands

less wjn more fun fights imo

edit: 6 months? Oo i started "playing" on camlann around newyear-christmas and not been very active either

 

[old.windforce]

http://koti.welho.com/inivari/addfight1-2.avi

camlann skeelz vs rvr skeelz

(ps. its a crappy movie, i know; dont ruin my hosting pls )

nice vid

 

[Doink-666]

Ruin > RvR nubs =o

The Mincer that I play with does at least