Troll skalds and Quickness

[Sajko]

Do ppl max Qui with SC suites? And if yes, why?
I want as low qui as possible to smack out as hard hits (tho they are slower ofc) but since /assist grps targets dont last very long i thought lowest possible qui would be best, yes no?

 

[haroat]

yes imo

 

[Aurilius]

Low quickness is caster propaganda imo
Cap qui, ToA items + master lvl's and healer aug haste - will make you hit very very fast with 2h.

 

[klavrynd]

go ask in excal/mid and do whatever tivook does/did

that guy hits like a truck

 

[old.Zarff]

he used AFS and no quick if I remember right.

 

[Biby]

No qui i say

www.hot.ee/bigm/O/Dam

 

[zapzap]

Put qui in 1h + shield 25 each so when u go 2h u loose 50 qui for frontload damage mebbe.

Zapzap 33 troll warrior

 

[zoia]

If you like to take screenies of huge hits, then go for no quick.
If you like to do as much damage as possible, cap quick.

 

[Biby]

Originally posted by zoia
If you like to take screenies of huge hits, then go for no quick.
If you like to do as much damage as possible, cap quick.

Hmmmm
If u wanna be useful following MA use slow 2H.
If u wanna hit fast use 1H with qui.
I do and it works just fine with swapping .....

 

[Zorin-]

you should listen to Bibi imo, you kinda know your skald after playing it for as long as bibi has

 

[shanks]

Originally posted by Zorin-
you should listen to Bibi imo, you kinda know your skald after playing it for as long as bibi has

Bibi sawks though?

 

[shanks]

And scing qui kinda makes rolling troll totally pointless and should be taken as a insult to the whole troll race.

 

[-ElemenT-]

Bibi, can you make a screenshot of your stats buffed?
My skald doesn't hit that hard
He's rr5 and you're rr9 but can't be THAT much of a difference eh?

 

[-foadon-]

lot of those hits are on slash weak armors tho as it appears, either that or they dont have capped slash

and the point of choosing a troll race isnt just the low quik, its the high str which also influences dmg output, but tbh, its pretty much impossible to cap everything u need+quik, so just go frontload

ps, iv had lot of 600+ hits with capped quik, thats 230 with foa so its all a matter of luck of the growthrate

 

[Mikal]

higher quickness does infact give you more damage over time, and the only time ever you want to make one hard hit, is in MA groups in rvr, in my experience it's the only situation where is good to have low quickness. As soon as you make 2 attacks on the same target, the advantage of low quickness is lost, and you would be better off having high quickness, no matter if you're a troll or not.

So if you can get good MA rvr groups all the time, don't get quickness on your suit

if you're going to pve alot, be in caster groups, random rvr groups, or just anything not MA groups, get quickness on your suit

and remember, haste spells do exactly the same as quickness, so if you manage to get a good purity of attack buff from a healer and celerity in a fight it's alot of haste (+75 quickness is aprox 7% haste, so no that big a difference)

P.S. for those that like low quickness, you can buy alcohol in Vasudheim's tavern, that can be used as potions with a 35 dex/qui debuff

 

[Skrald]

As a troll you need no qui imo, 2h sword
50 sword, 43 bs, 2 parry

You will not parry or evade as a troll ..face it.
In additoin, imo RA's should be

Purge
Aug str 2 or more
Aug con 1
Aug dex 2
Toughness 2
Long wind 1
Mop 3 or more

Ragnarok will hit very hard.

As for suit here is a template:

Config Report

Stats:
Str: 74 Int: 0 Hits: 197
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 75 Cha: 68
Qui: 9 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 26 Energy: 22 Crush: 26
Cold: 26 Matter: 26 Thrust: 25
Heat: 22 Spirit: 20 Slash: 24

Skills:
11 Sword 11 Parry
3 Battlesongs



Focus:



Chest:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 25 Strength - 99% flawless Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99% polished Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Charisma - 99% raw Icy Essence Jewel
Utility: 50

Arms:
Imbue Points: 35,5 of 32 (100% Qual) Overcharge: 78%
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99% precious Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 28 Charisma - 99% perfect Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 25 Dexterity - 99% flawless Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Constitution - 99% raw Earthen Essence Jewel
Utility: 50,6666679382324

Head:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Sword - 99% flawed Watery War Rune
Gem 4: 4 Strength - 99% uncut Firey Essence Jewel
Utility: 54,0000038146973

Legs:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 25 Charisma - 99% flawless Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99% faceted Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Thrust Resist - 99% rough Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 53,3333320617676

Hands:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 60 Hits - 99% precious Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Sword - 99% rough Watery War Rune
Gem 3: 4 Parry - 99% flawed Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99% imperfect Light Shielding Jewel
Utility: 64

Feet:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 68 Hits - 99% flawless Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 10 Charisma - 99% flawed Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Energy Resist - 99% polished Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Parry - 99% rough Vapor Battle Jewel
Utility: 56,6666641235352

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 4 Sword - 99% flawed Watery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Parry - 99% flawed Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Thrust Resist - 99% rough Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 64

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 33,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 28 Quickness - 99% perfect Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Power - 99% polished Mystical Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Charisma - 99% rough Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Spirit Resist - 99% flawed Vapor Shielding Jewel
Utility: 51,3333320617676

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 4 Sword - 99% flawed Watery War Rune
Gem 2: 4 Parry - 99% flawed Vapor Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 3 Thrust Resist - 99% rough Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 64

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Beaded Resisting Stone
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Cloak of the Troll Fathers
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 8 Strength
Effect 4: 18 Hits
Utility: 49,8333320617676

Jewel:
Name: Vial of Fetid Bog Water
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 21 Hits
Utility: 41,25

Belt:
Name: Belt of Glacial Might
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 13 Constitution
Utility: 42,6666679382324

Right Ring:
Name: Flame Wrought Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 9 Quickness
Utility: 44

Left Ring:
Name: Band of Ice
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 6 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 13 Constitution
Utility: 44,6666679382324

Right Wrist:
Name: Jergursunn
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 30 Hits
Utility: 51,5

Left Wrist:
Name: Temmelig
Level: 49 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 12 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 4 Charisma
Effect 4: 3 Battlesongs
Utility: 61,6666679382324

I do not remeber where i found this template, but i hope it will be usefull.

 

[elewyth]

i would certainly reccommend putting all your spare SC pts into Quick after you capped the main stuff...i did and it was better imho.

 

[chunky]

would tend to agree with mikal here.
If you know your gona be in MA grps all the time and are looking for pure front load dmg then lose the qui, otherwise max it with 1H sheild and lose 30+ with 2H.
Ive tryed playng my warior with cap'd qui and about + 30 qui, much prefer having it cap'd...

 

[aveh]

Originally posted by Sajko
Do ppl max Qui with SC suites? And if yes, why?
I want as low qui as possible to smack out as hard hits (tho they are slower ofc) but since /assist grps targets dont last very long i thought lowest possible qui would be best, yes no?

Do you intend to turn down shaman spec dex/qui buff too? Anyone who believes that lower qui is better than higher qui is utterly misinformed.

 

[-foadon-]

on the RAs part

FotG = uber, get it after purge

 

[osrim]

Max qui, max haste for win...

 

[Aule Valar]

Originally posted by -foadon-
on the RAs part

FotG = uber, get it after purge

he has seen my new FotG and been converted, to all skalds, get it, it rocks

 

[eynar]

A lot of skalds seem to prefer putting dex on their sc suits I noticed. Imo better put some quickness on it instead, since dex has little to no importance for skalds (only evade 1 & low parry due to lack of sufficient spec points).

 

[naetha]

Dex affexts how likely you are to hit, and how likely they are to miss, so you want capped dex whatever. Quickness can be very useful if you're going to be hitting more than once (and lets face it, Mid isn't that overpowered) so I'd put some quickness on, but I'd make sure I cap other things first like str con dex hits and melee resists.

Incidentally, what is fotg?

 

[eynar]

Originally posted by naetha
Dex affexts how likely you are to hit, and how likely they are to miss, so you want capped dex whatever. Quickness can be very useful if you're going to be hitting more than once (and lets face it, Mid isn't that overpowered) so I'd put some quickness on, but I'd make sure I cap other things first like str con dex hits and melee resists.

Incidentally, what is fotg?

Uhm, you're talking about the same game as us? The only things dexterity affects are:

- Dexterity is partially responsible for a character's weapon skill with thrusting weapons such as daggers, rapiers, and spears, flexible weapons...
- Dexterity is completely responsible for a character's weapon skill with aimed weaponry such as bows, crossbows, throwing weapons, and staves.
- Dexterity affects the usage of evade, parry and shields.
- Dexterity affects the casting time of spells, and a high dexterity can reduce the casting time for any spell by up to 25%.

 

[naetha]

Hmmm, will check my info...

 

[Simme]

Originally posted by naetha
Hmmm, will check my info...

He's right.

 

[Wij]

Dex will only affect a skald's evade and parry and they will still suck no matter how much dex you got. I'd rather have qui than dex tbh.

 

[Meeks]

As a troll skald in MA group i would drop quick...Xarr hit my savage for 845 in a duel .
Thats harder than any other class has ever hit me in rvr (RR7 atm)

Cant say either high quick or low quick is best, depends on the situation imo

 

[Jaem]

how much WS on average does a troll skald have buffed/unbuffed compared to a kibbi btw?