Traldors Vs Tartoro's

[Eluvia]

Which is the better staff for rvr do you think, and give reasons why, i am currently using tartoro's as the 5% spell dmg is hard to find elsewhere and for the MCL2 charge however i can see why people pick traldors with arch magery 5% piercing and 5% cast speed on offer, discuss

 

[Asty]

tartaros better for serious template because of the 5% dmg which you cant get anywhere else and the mcl2 charge rocks, especially in NF because mcl will be very expensive then.

traldors is good for a less serious template because its easy to get all the basic stuff with it.

 

[Vodkafairy]

well, i would use traldors until NF. you can still abuse the extra resist pierce for now, and the main problem is that staffs wear down extremely fast.

i put tartaros in template originally but it's at 90% dura now, so I'm using traldors until nf. tartaros is by far the superiour staff. 5% dmg is from what ive tested exactely the same dmg increase as 5% resist pierce, and the charge is nice. traldors charge is nice too, but will be close to useless and on a huge timer.

 

[AmeinoN]

battler malice, 2500hp "k"

 

[Dorin]

as vodka-tündér said, traldors till nf (high resist pierce is always handy) then use tartaros for 5% dmg and mcl2 charge. Though if building a simple template, using traldors seems to be a better option cuz of the 5% casting speed - resist pierce passive on it.

 

[Nuc]

Traldors is far better before NF and Tartaros is far better in NF..

 

[Lethul]

Traldors is far better before NF and Tartaros is far better in NF..

what he said

edit: and both are piss easy to get and piss easy to exp. hf

 

[Kinad]

Traldors much easier (cheaper) to build a template around, especially if
a self chant class which solo, who dont benefit from Zahur or Cloudsong.
The loss of durability can be avoided not repairing, altho it cost slighty higher power.

Traldor, Scalar, GoV/Naliash, Erinys/Jacinas and your basically covered.


Tartaros best staff ofc in many ways, but very hard to build templates around if say as a sorc or theur, gives a lot more power and a bit of xtra damage. Still it will degenerate aswell and it might not be worth the hazzle.
Problem with it lies in the fact you cannot have 2 self chants, limiting choices
for other spots.

Tartaros, Scalar, Gov/Naliash, Clousong, either 2 of Erinys/Jacinas/Atlantis.

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Heres a quick one i made for a sorc, maybe it can be improved, but basically
has most what is needed.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 15 Int: 78 Hits: 224
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 103 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 28 Energy: 26 Crush: 27
Cold: 27 Matter: 19 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 21 Slash: 28

Skills

11 Body Magic

Focus

50 Mind Focus

50 Body Focus

50 Matter Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex

20 Int

40 Hits

5 Str

Other Bonuses

9 Spell Range Bonus

4 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Casting Speed Bonus

5 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Intelligence
Effect 3: 5 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 15 Strength
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 8: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Body Magic - 99 flawed Heated Evocation Sigil
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 66.67

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 3: 4 Body Magic - 99 flawed Heated Evocation Sigil
Gem 4: 7 Dexterity - 99 rough Vapor Essence
Utility: 61.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 3: 3 Body Magic - 99 rough Heated Evocation Sigil
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Utility: 64.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 15 Acuity
Effect 4: 3 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Silksteel Soot Stained Boots 51AF, 100 Qua
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 18 Intelligence
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: 6 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name: Traldor's Oracle
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Intelligence
Effect 2: 50 All Focus Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 45.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Feathered Wrap
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 11 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 70.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Body Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Jacinas Sash
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 2: Empty
Effect 3: Empty
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Immolated Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 2: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

 

[eggy]

Prefer mine

 

[Vodkafairy]

Prefer mine

i use zahur, but next to that its exactely the same as my elds. can't complain

 

[vintervargen]

jacinas will be 'needed' in nf tho :<

 

[Chronictank]

heeh better than mine in some aspects, but i have nailahs and Jacinas
Clicky

 

[Yadeniel]

im teh only one who know that u must repair an item if u want the full af or the +skill bonus? at 70%con all the other things still affect u.

So... traldor have infinite duration, and if u dont repair tartaros u only lose 3+skills, not bad for a infinite staff who give u 15extra RA in NF.
Lile cloudsong, a infinite duration cloak too like ceremonial bracer..

My caby has tartaros, cb, and cloudsong, and both artis dont need repair


C u in emain

 

[Boni]

im teh only one who know that u must repair an item if u want the full af or the +skill bonus? at 70%con all the other things still affect u.

So... traldor have infinite duration, and if u dont repair tartaros u only lose 3+skills, not bad for a infinite staff who give u 15extra RA in NF.
Lile cloudsong, a infinite duration cloak too like ceremonial bracer..

My caby has tartaros, cb, and cloudsong, and both artis dont need repair


C u in emain

Very true, but I do worry that one day mythic will notice that their code for durability is useless and 'fix' it...

 

[Das_Hibbie]

Doesn 70% con make the focus lvls go bye-bye?

 

[Lethul]

Doesn 70% con make the focus lvls go bye-bye?

i have no idea what im talking about, but i think you are right

 

[Yadeniel]

no.

tested.

 

[Yadeniel]

Very true, but I do worry that one day mythic will notice that their code for durability is useless and 'fix' it...

So u prefer to keep ur staff for that day or use it to 70con now and start repairing it when they fix it?

 

[Lethul]

no.

tested.

strange, my brother tested it himself and got the exact opposite

unspecced lvl 50 spells with 70% con staff is affected alot, like having no focus at all

specced lvl 50 spells it doesnt effect as much, but still noticable

low level spells is barely effected by focus

and for a cabby who runs around using a lvl 50 unspecced baseline.. you lose _alot_ on that

 

[Boni]

So u prefer to keep ur staff for that day or use it to 70con now and start repairing it when they fix it?

In RvR and pve events where other people might need my skills to tip the balance I use the best items I can get my hands on.

If im soloing or in some crappy farm grp im not gonna use tartaros and lose the free +skill when I might need it.

 

[Kalba]

i have no idea what im talking about, but i think you are right

MUMIN IS A RR10 SAVAGE SO HE MUST BE RIGHT!!! ME AGREE!

 

[Buliwyf]

Doesn 70% con make the focus lvls go bye-bye?

Yes it does. Atleast in this patch.

 

[Yadeniel]

In RvR and pve events where other people might need my skills to tip the balance I use the best items I can get my hands on.

If im soloing or in some crappy farm grp im not gonna use tartaros and lose the free +skill when I might need it.

who said to use tartaros to farm?

I use traldor to farm/pve

 

[arelir]

hmmm tartaros ofc as many saying .... the magic dam % is not easy to put on temp ...

 

[Stallion]

why not use both as I do?