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Dahakon

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No matter what you do, smoke drink take drugs, or go to the gym every day, eat healthily etc your still gonna die either way. The way I see it is what's more important to you? quantity of life or quality? if smoking and drinking give you please, then go for it, if going to the gym gives you please then go for that as well, but is should be *your* choice, not the governments.

You could be the healthiest person in the world and still be killed tomorrow when you are run over by a bus, or get other diseases and other things which have nothing to do with what drugs you take, so we should have to choice to enjoy our lives how we want, so long as your not harming anyone else, then it shouldn't be their problem.
 

Bugz

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It's not that simple though, those are direct costs i'm assuming. How much expertise and research is used to deal with smoking and alcohol related issues which could be used elsewhere. How much does it cost to train the extra medical staff required to treat smoking and alcohol. How much potentially could a baby who died if SIDS have contributed to the economy if their parents hadn't smoked, etc.

Fair point but the indirect gains of smoking can also be assessed - GDP gains through the industry; investment gains through r&d in healthcare etc.
 

Everz

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Just like all the people who have a mental problem, chronic desease, addicts (yes games too), are fat, etc. Your country needs a working class hero that behaves...
It wont be long (actually we are there) before your health insurance company will determine if your bankroll is enough for you to be able to smoke, drink alcohol and what not. Capitalism is going down the same path as Communism, it just isn't working.

So ie. Fkoff with the selfish society thats based on survival of the fittest following Nazi rules, because that will yield the most profit.

Oh and hi Everz :flame: on and stuff!

hi Tuth :wub:

Agreed everyone should be perfectly healthy and normal. I'm only bitter as i live in a house full of smokers which when I had my chest infection it was utterly crap breathing it in constantly heh.
 

Tuthmes

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Smoking and drinking are choices.. Mental problems and chronic diseases are not

They can originate from a lot of different things. Street workers, soldiers, etc, all chose their job. Yet they have a far higher risk to get a chronic desease or a mental problem.
 

old.Tohtori

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They can originate from a lot of different things. Street workers, soldiers, etc, all chose their job. Yet they have a far higher risk to get a chronic desease or a mental problem.

Good point, lot of jobs that cause illness are equally a choice.
 

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