Top 5 fscked up things about DAoC

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by Taggart
Hehe, i know mate, but when they started up here, the patches that had been released in US should have been implemented at the start of this one, so that we weren't miles behind

personally I like the fact that we're a bit behind, it gives us things to look forward to (new dungeons in the frontiers with random drops, yay) and also time to prepare for them (such as me going from 0% slash resists to 26% cos I knew armour changes in 1.52 were coming..), why does it matter if we're a patch or too behind? is it really the case that the patch we're in now is sooooo bad you can't stand it at all? the new patch won't fix that m8... alot of people seem to think the new patches will fix everything they feel is wrong with daoc and that's why they want it now now now (I make this assumption based on the number of people who always seem to reappear after a patch, only to disappear again a few days later..). The new patchs modify things add some nice new features to look forward to, but if you arent happy as it is now, honestly the new patch being here now won't help you..

 

[old.mattshanes]

Then again don't forget we get events,americans don't so i been told.

 

[Gabrial]

I personally think the camo idea is a nice one - the idea being that a scout can finally act like a scout, rather than a gimped stealther (I dont have a scout btw but the *idea* sounds right?)

 

[pudzy]

1. Camo should be put on a 5min timer 10 is a bit harsh.

2. Stealthers should'nt have ability to get ip.

3. Luri's running animation need to be fixed .

4. Dragon Fang of course needs nerfing :>.

5. Cleric's pbaoe mez timer increased.


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Originally posted by andrilyn

1) Would be a great thing if assasins got "nerfed" well actually making the dmg output that SBs and Infils have the same as a NS (I know many people dont like this since 75% of all players have atleast 1 assasin alt, but it aint fair that an assasin can kill a tank, a tank should only be killed by assasins if 5 or so went for the same tank).
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Sko for once is right they are all roughly the same damage wise. Ns's make up their lack of damage per hit by hitting alot faster, also have dd's which help.

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


Once again your logic completely eludes me. Not surprising really.

I have a Thidranki SB. That's what she was, a Thidranki alt. I levelled her to see how it would be playing a Stealth class in RvR. It was fun but I decided that I'd just be adding the the stealth zerg and so discontinued her levelling.

Simple concept. Nothing to do with wanting to but not having the patience.

And how exactly stealth zerg in thidranki is different from one in emain ?

Hehe, that's what many people say faced with difficulties of leveling rogue - it was only thidranki alt. Etc. Etc.
Then they come to public whine place and cry "nurf ostosinz !"

 

[old.mattshanes]

He's probably only testing out the class,after all if he think's it's good in thidranki he may wanna lv it, that's what thidranki can be used for anyway.Having seen dook in rvr i am sure he would have no trouble lving a sb anyway.

 

[old.Sko]

I believe rvr and pve are two different games. Quick reaction and good decisions are needed in first and a lot of patience in second.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Hehe not a lot of patience really just know your char,knowing the realm,who to group with,balancing the group and playing with as much people as you can.On my second lv50 i knew where to lv from my previous but we didn't have df when my first got it so it's easier to get lv50 now than ever.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.Sko

And how exactly stealth zerg in thidranki is different from one in emain ?

Hehe, that's what many people say faced with difficulties of leveling rogue - it was only thidranki alt. Etc. Etc.
Then they come to public whine place and cry "nurf ostosinz !"

LOL, please stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Your replies are shallow and ill thought out.

The stealth zerg in Thidranki is different because regardless to what some may say, Thidranki is NOT real RvR. It may be fun, and you may get realm points for a kill but it has absolutely NO BARING on anything outside of Thidranki. It was also meant to be a learning experience.

Stealth zerg in Thidranki = Lowbies leave and level up for real RvR.

Stealth zerg in real RvR = People quit/make a stealther themselves as they have no chance of surviving otherwise.

Again, NOT a hard concept to grasp.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Heh consider thidranki a test battleground like a test server in most ways.

 

[hangianix]

"5. Cleric's pbaoe mez timer increased."

Lol, we HAVE a 5 mins timer on it. How many minutes do you like? 10 - 20 - 30? I can imagine a cleric with low smite who has to wait 10 mins for his/her 9 sec mezz.


(Or did I misunderstand it and you wanted to decrease it? Pls - help me! )
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[old.Sko]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug

LOL, please stop arguing for the sake of arguing. Your replies are shallow and ill thought out.

As well as yours, since you have to use such remarks to gain additional footing for yourself in our little flame.

The stealth zerg in Thidranki is different because regardless to what some may say, Thidranki is NOT real RvR. It may be fun, and you may get realm points for a kill but it has absolutely NO BARING on anything outside of Thidranki. It was also meant to be a learning experience.

Umm, kills in emain have no baring on anything outside emain.
And actually running in emain gives me some learning expierence.
So ?

Stealth zerg in Thidranki = Lowbies leave and level up for real RvR.

Stealth zerg in real RvR = People quit/make a stealther themselves as they have no chance of surviving otherwise.

Again, NOT a hard concept to grasp.

I rolled infi as my first char on Prydwen Albion, and my bard had good chances of survival though blue-con with a good group, and Terra Dominus on excalibur is a guild with a number of very talented people. But well, i understood that healer-type doesnt fit my playstyle, mid/prydwen was clearly overpowered realm, hibernia seemed boring after playing bard, so rolling a character in albion was a logical choice. Not that i got fed up with "oops i was killed again, i cannot survive, i should roll a stealther", more like "damn! why bard fights like kitten and can barely outmelee supp. runie "

PS. And i actually leveling mid caster on excalibur now - so i really dont understand why people should pick only stealther-types for thidranki.
Damn spiritmaster - mez, pbaoe mez, little aoe mez, root, aoe dex/qui debuf, aoe str/con debuf, attack speed debuf, dex and str debufs, pbaoe, dark nukes, lifedrain, lifetransfer, pet.
And debufs are instant since 1.52 - means i can run up fire them and insta-root all the enemy caster crowd without resists affecting duration

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Hehe not a lot of patience really just know your char,knowing the realm,who to group with,balancing the group and playing with as much people as you can.On my second lv50 i knew where to lv from my previous but we didn't have df when my first got it so it's easier to get lv50 now than ever.

lol Matt, i remember getting last two bubles on 49. Took me a _lot_ of patience. Quote of the day was "damn, the bar no longer moves ;("

 

[Dook_Pug]

I dunno, maybe you see this as a competition of wits, I see this as
someone with a silly little grudge coming at me with piss poor arguments. So Sko, I shall leave it at this.

Cya in the frontier.

 

[old.mattshanes]

A lot of patience,dam you need to be in one of my groups i suggest in df in future

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug
I dunno, maybe you see this as a competition of wits, I see this as
someone with a silly little grudge coming at me with piss poor arguments. So Sko, I shall leave it at this.

Cya in the frontier.

Hehe, dont take it personally Kinda of pointless flame in time when compiler does its dirty work.
And indeed hope we will meet soon

 

[old.mattshanes]

Well good thing with dook is that he doesn't camp amg like some so leave him alone,i think it's cool that he doesn't.The mids that was don't you think it's boring and pathetic after several days running?

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by old.Sko


lol Matt, i remember getting last two bubles on 49. Took me a _lot_ of patience. Quote of the day was "damn, the bar no longer moves ;("

I guess you didn't have as much to look forward to at 50 as I did for me it was "yes, 1 pixel closer to annihilation!" then after I dinged it was.. "FFS zoltar, lvl up already so I can train and get annihilatiooooooonnnnnnnnn!!"

 

[old.mattshanes]

Also you got lv50 and thought dam i could go and kill matt with my big hammer now

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Originally posted by old.Sko

PS. And i actually leveling mid caster on excalibur now - so i really dont understand why people should pick only stealther-types for thidranki.
Damn spiritmaster - mez, pbaoe mez, little aoe mez, root, aoe dex/qui debuf, aoe str/con debuf, attack speed debuf, dex and str debufs, pbaoe, dark nukes, lifedrain, lifetransfer, pet.
And debufs are instant since 1.52 - means i can run up fire them and insta-root all the enemy caster crowd without resists affecting duration

Maybe cuz their oh so great spiritmaster gets 1-shotted time after time there?

 

[old.Sko]

Originally posted by old.Eynar_Vega


Maybe cuz their oh so great spiritmaster gets 1-shotted time after time there?

"Dont touch my crystal dream with your dirty fingers Shura" (c) Ostap Bender

I guess you didn't have as much to look forward to at 50 as I did for me it was "yes, 1 pixel closer to annihilation!" then after I dinged it was.. "FFS zoltar, lvl up already so I can train and get annihilatiooooooonnnnnnnnn!!"

Discussion of 1.54 patch notes - section of no-turn-when-mezzed-and-stunned on russian daoc board.
Ranger - "Nurf Otsosinz!"
Shadowblades and Infiltrator - "Erm?"
Champion - "Anni-Anni-Anni !!!"

 

[vladamyr]

mmm here are some things...

Assasins being WAY to over powerd.
The fact that mythic bums Albion to death
The idiots who cant takethere fingers out of there asses and fix Thanes.
and finnaly people in the game who thik they are betetr than others...

 

[old.Sko]

Actually i recon thanes were good in beta - their stormcalling line was basically unnerfed smite. But its Mystic you know ?

PS. And how assasins classes are overpowered ? IMO after poison nerf the only template which wont suffer (will perform at the pre-nerf rate) is shadowzerker.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Shadowzerkers are just similar to an inf with 50 dw, 50 slash or thrust in a way surely?Anyway sword or hammer/shield thanes seem to do well in rvr from what i have seen.

 

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1 to 5 - Albion players

 

[Hjod]

1: The Thane being so unbalanced ( Only RvRed with the Thane in Thid so don´t know that much about it, but I know that we are unbalanced)
2: Mythic thinking that they are going to do the Thane more fun to play, by decreasing the timer on a spell that u use 1 time in a battle 1vs1)
3: That I loose xp in RvR, even if I killed the mob and have rested for like 1 min
4: The horse always throwing me off
5: Beggars ( Give me some money plzzzzzzzzz)




My two euros

 

[old.Krusha]

I dont know if this has been discussed already but i could drudge through 3 pages of a thread about "Top 5 fscked up things about DAoC " that turned into Nerf Infi's by the middle of page 1

(nothing personal Gilthanis, but i used you as an example that many ppl say about infi's )

Originally posted by gilthanis


I think what andrilyn meant was that Infs get 2.5 spec points per lvl (close to 500 more than NS's and SB's) and also Dragonfang.

Infi's dont GET Dragonfang you must spec to it.. and its preceded by 49 lvls of pure crap styles.. its the only good style in the Thrust line (imho and many ive talked too) if you didnt intend to take your weapon to 50 you'd go slash for good styles ... They (mythic) wont nerf it .. never..

What they do need to do is.. remove IP from Infis and give it to heavy tanks -only-, make block/parry work in RvR, because the reason ppl have trouble (or will have in 1.53 i should say ) is that dual wielding classes (CD/DW/LA) cuts Block chance in half (ie by 50%), just as 2h cuts the opponents chance to parry by 50%, but evade doesnt have any modifiers vs any weapon, making it a -very- good defence mechanism, and yes its the -only- defence a assassin has tho you have to keep the attacker in the front arc.

BUT the biggest thing making Assassins über is the one thing they cant do anything about... BuffBots.

But this game is so broken now after all the "fixes" by mythic. And with SI around the corner, those new classes there will be so overpowered at start and 3-4 months down the road they'll be nerfed to oblivion (like they always do....)

I cant wait for SW:G so i can move on to the next game .. and after looking at the stratics movies .. drooooool even at that crappy resolution on the movies

 

[larossa]

Hunters ....

Getting back to the original topic :-

I got suckered into creating a hunter by the exciting description that was put about originally - you know the shape-shift thingy??

I presume it would be totally useless in RvR (if zerkers are anything to go by) but why can't they bring that bit back in? It would make the class just that bit more interesting and fun to play while xping.

The crit shot - if someone else has targetting your mob (and I presume also invader here) you get the message about cant get a good shot yet - this is rubbish!!!!!!!! If the target is standing still, surely it makes sense that you should be able to crit shot it?

My other gripe is why can't hunters have better endurance or something to make up for the lack of ... er .... everything


Despite the whinging I do enjoy playing my hunter

 

[AzuratMinimus]

All the whiners around, just compare this thread in size to the improvement one

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by AzuratMinimus
All the whiners around, just compare this thread in size to the improvement one

well duh it's far easier to complain about what you think is wrong than to actually come up with practical solutions to it too..