to moz or not to moz? bm blades or pierce w moz w 1.88

[partyanimal]

so i have this firby bm and i am very temptated to use moz , altho there is another one use in gg (whenever is that)

any suggestions on temps or generally?

BLADES malice/champ

Config Report

Stats
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Str: 103 Int: 0 Hits: 364
Con: 95 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 15 Cha: 0
Qui: 86 Emp: 0

Resists
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Body: 25 Energy: 26 Crush: 29
Cold: 27 Matter: 30 Thrust: 27
Heat: 19 Spirit: 22 Slash: 29

Skills
------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 Blades
11 Celtic Dual
3 Parry

Focus
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cap Increases
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 Quickness
156 Hits
25 Strength
19 Constitution
10 AF

Other Bonuses
------------------------------------------------------------------------
10 Melee Combat Speed
11 Melee Damage
9 Fatigue
13 Style Damage
1 AF

Piece Listing
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chest
Name: gsv
Level: 51 Quality: 94 AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 3: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 0
Effect 8: 0
Effect 9: 0
Effect10: 0
Utility: 46.00
Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 28 Hits - 99 Flawed Blood Essence Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 60.33
Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 Precious Fiery Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 16 Quickness - 99 Polished Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 68 Hits - 99 Flawless Blood Essence Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 57.00
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Blades - 99 Imperfect Watery War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 9 Cold Resist - 99 Polished Icy Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 28 Hits - 99 Flawed Blood Essence Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 64.00
Hands
Name: ms tank
Level: 51 Quality: 94 AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 30.00
Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Cold Resist - 99 Imperfect Icy Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 20 Hits - 99 Rough Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 Flawed Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 6 Blades - 99 Polished Watery War Spell Stone
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 59.00
Right Hand
Name: malice
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 5 Fatigue Bonus
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 30.00
Left Hand
Name: bm offhand
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 36.00
Ranged
Name: caps
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 3 All Dual Wield Skills
Effect 3: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 15.00
Neck
Name: public awarness
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 76.00
Cloak
Name: som
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Parry
Effect 4: 10 AF Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Fatigue Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 35.00
Jewel
Name: eds
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 5 Cold Resist
Effect 5: 5 Body Resist
Effect 6: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 7: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 8: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 9: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 84.00
Belt
Name: statuesque girdle of might
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 3: 7 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 2 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 40.00
Right Ring
Name: zahur
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 75.00
Left Ring
Name:
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 80 Hits
Effect 2: 80 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 9 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 4: 1 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 1 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 1 Thrust Resist
Effect 7: 1 Matter Resist
Effect 8: 1 Body Resist
Effect 9: 1 Spirit Resist
Effect10: 1 Energy Resist
Utility: 34.00
Right Wrist
Name: arawn
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 7 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 1 AF Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 76.00
Left Wrist
Name: shoe bracer
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 2 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 1 Body Resist
Effect 8: 1 Energy Resist
Effect 9: 36 Hits Cap Increase
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

PIERCE moz / champ

Config Report

Stats
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Str: 103 Int: 0 Hits: 216
Con: 81 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 101 Cha: 0
Qui: 86 Emp: 0

Resists
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Body: 23 Energy: 24 Crush: 25
Cold: 26 Matter: 28 Thrust: 25
Heat: 22 Spirit: 16 Slash: 23

Skills
------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 Parry
12 Blunt
11 Celtic Dual
12 Piercing
12 Blades

Focus
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cap Increases
------------------------------------------------------------------------
24 Dexterity
40 Hits
25 Strength
5 Constitution
10 AF
10 Quickness

Other Bonuses
------------------------------------------------------------------------
11 Melee Combat Speed
13 Melee Damage
9 Fatigue
10 Style Damage
1 AF

Piece Listing
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Chest
Name: gov tank
Level: 51 Quality: 94 AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: 0
Effect 9: 0
Effect10: 0
Utility: 32.00
Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 Perfect Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 Polished Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 2 Crush Resist - 99 Uncut Fiery Shielding Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 59.33
Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Dexterity - 99 Flawless Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 13 Constitution - 99 Imperfect Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Heat Resist - 99 Flawed Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 11 Cold Resist - 99 Faceted Icy Shielding Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 57.33
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Spirit Resist - 99 Imperfect Vapor Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Heat Resist - 99 Polished Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Cold Resist - 99 Polished Icy Shielding Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 64.67
Hands
Name: ms tank
Level: 51 Quality: 94 AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Constitution
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 3 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 30.00
Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Quality: 100 Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 10 Quickness - 99 Flawed Airy Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 11 Energy Resist - 99 Faceted Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 Flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99 Faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Proc: Empty -
Utility: 61.67
Right Hand
Name: moz
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Fatigue Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 2 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 35.00
Left Hand
Name: bm offhand
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 30.67
Ranged
Name: caps
Level: 51 Quality: 94 DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 3 All Dual Wield Skills
Effect 3: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 15.00
Neck
Name: public awarness
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 76.00
Cloak
Name: som
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Parry
Effect 4: 10 AF Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Fatigue Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 35.00
Jewel
Name: golm
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Constitution
Effect 2: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 4 Body Resist
Effect 4: 24 Hits
Effect 5: 2 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 6: 2 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 38.67
Belt
Name: began
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 9 Strength
Effect 2: 9 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 4: 1 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 1 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 1 Thrust Resist
Effect 7: 1 Heat Resist
Effect 8: 9 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 9: 9 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect10: 4 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 35.00
Right Ring
Name: zahur
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 75.00
Left Ring
Name: tick
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 4 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 4 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 18 Strength
Effect 5: 18 Quickness
Effect 6: 4 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 7: 1 Melee Combat Speed Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 68.00
Right Wrist
Name: arawn
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Body Resist
Effect 2: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 7 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 7 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 1 AF Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 76.00
Left Wrist
Name: shoe bracer
Level: 51 Quality: Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Strength
Effect 2: 21 Constitution
Effect 3: 5 Slash Resist
Effect 4: 5 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 6: 2 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 1 Body Resist
Effect 8: 1 Energy Resist
Effect 9: 36 Hits Cap Increase
Effect10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

 

[aika]

you can use moz in offhand and still stay blades/blunt without suffering dmg decrease

 

[partyanimal]

you can use moz in offhand and still stay blades/blunt without suffering dmg decrease

if u paid a bit attetion u would understand that hib gets pierce moz.
whats the point tho? champ weap can b pierce or blade. malice is the only thing that changes and make things harder to get that style bonus in temp

 

[BloodOmen]

From what i've heard MoZ doesn't proc enough to be worth it :x

 

[partyanimal]

From what i've heard MoZ doesn't proc enough to be worth it :x

i have to test it n c. but many ppl in avalon use it.
just an info, it proc against my bb on seconf swing... i almost cried...

 

[aika]

if u paid a bit attetion u would understand that hib gets pierce moz.
whats the point tho? champ weap can b pierce or blade. malice is the only thing that changes and make things harder to get that style bonus in temp

if you use pierce weapon in offhand and specced bladed, its the same like you used a blades weapon in offhand fyi, so I was just pointing out that if you really want moz, you can use it in offhand without going pierce. But like someone said before me, moz is just overrated.

 

[partyanimal]

if you use pierce weapon in offhand and specced bladed, its the same like you used a blades weapon in offhand fyi, so I was just pointing out that if you really want moz, you can use it in offhand without going pierce. But like someone said before me, moz is just overrated.

about yer offhand theory, after a little test it proved to b total nonsence.
i did the half damage when i hit w offhand and it was less often, my bot even blocked it. i did fumbled once or twice!!! w 2180ws
and moz is not overrated... it prolly procs 1-2/10 so if its in mh its ok. procs more often than malice, lasts for 1 min n u can do up to 20% more dam

 

[aika]

are you sure about that? cause i did a test some time ago on my thrust inf with malice in off hand and i didnt see any dmg difference

 

[partyanimal]

are you sure about that? cause i did a test some time ago on my thrust inf with malice in off hand and i didnt see any dmg difference

yes i am doin 200-250 w malice and just 100-120 w moz.
2% less resists on thrust but scale is slash resist n thrust neutral.
atm i use vista and there is a problem takin ss.
but bot actually blocked moz n i fumbled once or twice.
thats w 405 str 250 dex 0 pierce

 

[Leel]

Erm, scale is slash vulnerable, not the other way around.

 

[partyanimal]

Erm, scale is slash vulnerable, not the other way around.

so true... i was in hurry to post ^^