TK Camping

[Breni]

I expect flames for this, but I couldn't care less.

Anyone from Midgard that camps the TK's in Thidranki can forget asking me for a res. It's lame.

I'd rather have the enemy coming at me over the bridge, or from the trees along the roads. Just sitting in front of the telekeeps is boring, and doesn't let those that haven't seen the BG's before (there are some, believe me) get a feel for what great fun it can be.

Just my 2c worth.

 

[opoc]

Yeah it is boring and you just know that they might all hide inside then come out with like 80 people and wipe you all out

More fun having a large-scale battle on the flatlands or over bridge and rivers.

 

[gnafasteshot]

i agree dont camp tk's its soo dull
bridge fightin much better

 

[old.Atrophy]

Tk camping sucks big time, sadly though it does show new players what they will be doing lots in emain at 50

Anyone for a good old Bridge Fight \o/

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

people with no imagination

no matter what the reason, and there are a few....

it boils down to the fact that some people really have no idea about tactics or skill in this game.

its not class dependant, but it certainly does feauture heavily amongst SBs, hunters, rune masters and skalds, thats not to say that other classes dont do it (and i speak only from a midgard perspective cos thats what i mainly know)

SITTING ON TK, will get you killed, its DULL as fuck for the people waiting at the bridge for the enemy to come out, pot shots are boring, without skill and in every respect boring, and to be condemned.

i hate people who TK, and i often ask healers in the CG not to go and heal them, (sometimes getting flamed from the dead person at ATK in the process). haha! i dont care, flame on.....if every healer did this, then people would soon stop camping the TKs and come out for some major battles.

you would actually think its pretty obvious too, that without the interference of the guards you can kill the whole enemies army, instead of 1 pot shot at a time, while the infiltrators run down in packs and farm the hunters and runemasters.

it has to be said that alot of the middies listen to me (and alot of others) when we ask, /yell to move back to alb bridge....but there are a hard core few, the really really unimaginative dull fuckers who just dont know what they are missing, the cool, group vs group battles on the bridge or the road.


petition for healers and shaman!

DONT REZZ TK CAMPERS!

 

[asarithia]

I don't like TK camping either. But i'm using my skills in sneaking/stealthing/scouting to spot all you albs running out of the TK so I can inform my fellow midgardians to be prepared that albs are incoming. I don't call that TK camping, I call it scouting.

 

[Breni]

Originally posted by asarithia
I don't like TK camping either. But i'm using my skills in sneaking/stealthing/scouting to spot all you albs running out of the TK so I can inform my fellow midgardians to be prepared that albs are incoming. I don't call that TK camping, I call it scouting.

Agreed, totally, just as long as those same people you report to don't suddenly get a sheep mentality and all rush to the TK to see them!

It's a good thing, scouting the TK, just as long as that's all it is.

And Krogar - well said that man/dwarf/troll/kobold (whatever ). IF all healers and shamen did what I do, we'd soon lose this whole mentality, hopefully across the board and out into "real" RvR.

Still, there'll always be one...

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Im with you completely on this one but ive seen ressers turned down for groups beause the had previously refused to ress a TK camper. When my ickle bard reaches the grand old age of 24, I dont want him to be hated like that.

So either I ress them or I get labelled a twat...

 

[Breni]

Originally posted by Xoz
Im with you completely on this one but ive seen ressers turned down for groups beause the had previously refused to ress a TK camper. When my ickle bard reaches the grand old age of 24, I dont want him to be hated like that.

So either I ress them or I get labelled a twat...

Hehe, it works both ways - if you're spotted TK, you get labelled a twat and hunted down. IT's a tough old life, isn't it?

Seriously though, those people that refuse you a group because you didn't rez them at a TK are probably not worth the mana cost anyway

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

you dont want to be...

...in a group of people who refuse you the group because you did not rezz them at some time previously, im talking BG here.

no1 has a divine right to a rezz, no matter where they die, all healers have the final say so, and i would advocate some1 releasing and hurrying back to BG rather than sending a healer into a hotspot or enemy held territory just to do a rezz.

case number 1 in point, and a pretty extreme example, we were ramming the 1st keep door, when some buffoon spams on the cg, that he needs a rezz, in my usual rather brusque manner (which was magnified by the fact that i was trying to spam yell the tanks off the doors until the ram was constructed) i asked where was the rezz request for....i do so hate "can i have rezz" or "REZZ PLZ", without a location, a number of healers we had, replied with, "where are you mate?". remember, we were on the slopes of the fort, 1 ram up, and under heavy fire from alb archers and sorcerors...and the reply came back

"rezz at Alb TK please."



i told the guy to, and i quote "fuck off and release" and i got flamed by him and his mates for the next 30 mins.

what can you do, you gotta laugh.

 

[opoc]

Now the worst TK campers I saw was last night my first night in Thidranki as a friar, not changed much since i was there with my wizard. Well two Sbs where both camping Alb PK, i go rezz one of their victims and he hits me and runs away but doesnt kill me. I go to the rezz the other a bit later and two SBs PA me at once.

XXX hits you with his sword for 220 damage
You are hit for 7 damage
You are hit for 7 damage
XXX hits you with his axe for 190 damage
You are hit for 7 damage

Opoc was just killed by XXX

I am lvl 20 too and them both red con....

Let me note they both had two handed weapons and i'm a friar....



Now that hurts

 

[old.FIN]

ahh, luckily im not rezzer, TK camping kills all the action, we have keep, use the keep

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Re: you dont want to be...

Originally posted by old.Krogar_Thane
what can you do, you gotta laugh.

Brilliant idea! I may go to each and every tk camper who requests a ress, laugh at them then run off back to those who are...

Originally posted by Breni
worth the mana cost anyway

Of course, Ill blame the two of you for this course of action but hopefully I should get my message across.

 

[speshneeds]

you wont ever stop tk camping, happens in Emain lots and even Odins to a point, Sure the fighting will start at the bridge but maybe those without the keep will retreat towards their pk, the masses will follow picking off the stragglers from the retreating force untill you are at the pk. Now do u camp them so they cant rez their dead or retreat and let them rez their force back to full str? I hate pk camping but that imo is a reason to do it.... force release.

@ healers/shammies... If you are close and its safe to rez why not? Sure (as mentioned above) the guy spammin for rez @ apk when u were raiding the keep is a bit off (was he a stealthed scout for u? reporting alb movements into the keep?) but dont refuse people rez for silly reasons, it sux.. if u can get to them in relative safety why not...

<this is not a flame, just my observations.. if i am wrong then so be it, just my opinion>

 

[old.Atrophy]

Only people i dont rezz in BG are the prats who ding 25 then go around saying how vital it is they get rezz if they die (read the lev requirement if your 25 fook of to next bg j/k) As fot Tk campers i simply never rezz them as i dont stay at tk (and no i wont walk all way there to rezz some gimp who is)

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Its a small (fake) world, gratz on 50 spesh

And yeah, you make a good point. If we are trying to prevent resses though, then presumably ill be there. Its just whenever fights are going on elsewhere and stealther classes demand a ress, on the whole i apologise and say i cant get there. In my opinion, if they choose not to fight with the rest of their realm then its unfair for them to expect the us to be there when they want us to be.

I didnt make it clear before but thats what I meant, im against soloers who TK camp.

Edit: Hmm so your a runie now... <Wanders off to log his BG-ready ranger...>

 

[Khalen]

Give me a call and I will gank em for yah

Always funny when you stand exactly in line of their movement and do PA right in their face (omg what an uber damage btw)

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

@ spesh needs

its the people who dwell at at tk we are talking about, and its the same names that keep coming up, again and again.

strangely, lack of skill in game, and lack of imagination resulting in tk camping seem to be prevelant in the same players.

e.g XXXXX is not very good, he doesnt know what to do, so he camps atk all the time, ergo he dies often, and asks for rezz often...this just pisses every1 off, not just the healers. nothing worse than when ur trying to make a raid, and have spam, "need a rezz plz" "need a rezz plz"

i recognise your opinion spesh, but it doesnt apply to bgs, regarding force release, unless there is a raid on, in which case you want the force to release sure, at all other times, i would advocate killing them, having a fun fight, then PULL back, let them rezz, why wait 10 to 15 mins for the enemy to port back, when they can rezz in 5, and have another round of fun fighting.

force release only applies when the keeps under attack inthid, and at all times in frontiers.

i would still advocate no healers rezzing alb tk campers for a while, people will soon get the message very quickly, and again, im not talking about people harrying the retreating enemy back to their tk, im talking about hard core, lets sit on the tk cos we are so clueless as to what else to do.

and no, the guy on atk who asked for a rezz, was not my scout, scouts had been assigned on my raid.

DONT REZZ THE TK CAMPERS! let em rot and release.

 

[mattygroves]

Yep, I'm beginning to agree with this sort of hard line stance against tk camping.

Yesterday in thid there was a fair number of albs and we had a sort of plan, not a great plan, but a plan none-the-less, to destroy the opposition.. This was discussed and agreed in cg .... The only problem was that there were a sizeable number of albs camping Mid tk... They were asked time after time to fall back to the bridge so that we could excecute said plan.... This went on for over an hour... consequently, there was very little real action for this time. It basically creates a stalemate in which nobody can enjoy the experience...

As pointed out it is always the usual suspects that feck things up and ruin any kind of tactical battleplan, constantly spam for rezzes and continually piss everybody off...

Anyway... apart from the aforementioned, still great fun in bg1!

Mondoh Golightly - Brit Infy
Voxe Mulsane - Foxy Brit musical lassy

 

[bister]

The thing about TK camping is it benefits the defender. Any time you're outnumbered by the realm that holds the keep, falling back to TK is more often than not the optimal strategy. Why? Because you have your back covered. Because you have a working escape route after a hit-and-run. Because you won't get run over so easily. Right now I actually want the alb zerg to camp MTK, so please continue.

Bister
24 Ghettoblade
Hand of Loki

 

[gnafasteshot]

stop campin the tk's
i will ask all healers and shammies from my guild not to rezz any campers as u are wastin everybody's time by your infernal whinin for a rez at the portal keeps when u shouldnt b there
flame all u want i dont care ur shit anyway and wouldnt group with u coz u suck
if u get me killed bury me upside down so you can kiss my arse
certain knobhead mids know who they are (w*nkers) and there are plenty from other realms just let them lie where they fall and ignore them

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

Originally posted by bister
The thing about TK camping is it benefits the defender. Any time you're outnumbered by the realm that holds the keep, falling back to TK is more often than not the optimal strategy. Why? Because you have your back covered. Because you have a working escape route after a hit-and-run. Because you won't get run over so easily. Right now I actually want the alb zerg to camp MTK, so please continue.

And you've got height advantage as all three TK's are on hills. In fact, if your a hib you've got those lovely casters with the surprisingly long range. Oh and if any of the realm members from the camped TK actually die they are soo easy to ress due to said height advantage.

But still thats no reason to encourage TK camping. Id rather get owned in a tactical battle on the bridge than effortlessly kill dumb assasins who get too close to our nukin guards.

Jesus Gna, im glad you've reached the RP limit for thid, id never be able to kill you, you scare the crap out of me. Good hardline approach though, and yeah let em rot, the buggers...

 

[speshneeds]

Originally posted by Xoz
Its a small (fake) world, gratz on 50 spesh

.

Edit: Hmm so your a runie now... <Wanders off to log his BG-ready ranger...>

Aye a runie who is sniper/stealther fodder cos when u say 'mezzed' u generally find yourself standin alone while all the tanks sod off and complain that i aint fending them hehe...kwhateva

btw, seeing some xxxx was killed by cowled around uppland today, couldnt find ya tho

 

[darbey]

Although its going to be a long wait, TK camping will be a thing of the past after 1.53 when they introduce siege masters. Ive seen this in action on pendragon. You purchase a token off siege master npc at tk , set up a trebuchet and wipe groups out from miles away. Not cheap but effective.

Ozwin

 

[jetsetminer]

I've been waiting for this! As an armour crafter with possibly an unhealthy facination with siege weapons I would love to see them used more in BG Get people using siege weapons more often, I would love to see catapults, balistas etc. in use, the only problem is lack of ammo when there isn't a siege merchant near by,

Speaking of which, come on hibs and mids, when are you going to get your act together and take the thidranki keep back? You always moan about albs being crap but I haven't seen something approaching a decent attempt to get the keep back yet.

Hopefully you will try this weekend and we can have a good fight.. Assuming we can convince the rest of the albs to stop camping your tks

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

19 realm points from cap

the simple reason you have not seen a raid on the keep mate is Mack is 19 realm points from his cap, im taking it nice and slow, cant be bothered organising a raid at the moment, getting a few nice juicy (rp free) rezz kills, and enjoying my last few hours on BG before i transfer gear, delete and reroll.

if i led a raid now i would make 19 points in about 10 minutes.

however, the good news is.............that my dwarf berserker is level 16 and should be ready to lead the glorious forces of midgard to take the keep in a few days.

and of course, there are our other generals and organisers, i have no idea if they are cooking something up for you keep defenders.

anyway,

/bow
/bow
/salute


soon time to change my sig

 

[old.job]

I haven't heard talk of it in the Hib chat grps..

HeeHee..is that a double bluff

To be honest having the Keep isn't everything, so much fun can be had without owning the keep.