Thx albs

[Vasconcelos]

Originally posted by belth


http://www.camelotherald.com/spells/spell.php?s=104

Don't take any values of double-component spells on Catacombs char builder as their damage

Gah, fuking DAOC catacombs

 

[Rollie_David]

your post did give me the impression that you wanted high pbt ie 6sec and a dam good nuke, unfortunately this cannot be done.

 

[belth]

Suppresion runies get an usable nuke, both single-target and aoe, with small variance due to high spec. I failed to find one on an earth theurg. Care to point to me where it is?

 

[Rollie_David]

Originally posted by belth


Suppression runie versus Earth theurg. Both have 6 sec pbt, but "guess" which one's got a fuckload of spells in the spec? That's f00king right, Mr. Supp Runies Can't Do Shit. SUPPRESSION SPEC LINE! DING DING DING! CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE JUST WON THE CRAP-TALKERS PRIZE!

where did i say supp runies cant do shit? thats right i didnt, i said they give up alot of damage for the 6 second pbt as does the earth thurg, yes we have nearsight in that line also but that is our primary caster. dont gimme this crap earth thurg vs supp runie yes the supp runie has a few better tools as its a more condensed class but look at your 50 ice 20 earth wizzie compard to our spiritmaster, yup thats right much better. You might wanna read posts first before you post rubbish.

lol show me where i said the supp runie is worse than the earth thurg which is what your trying to get at, you miss the point, in order to get 6sec pbt we give up damage, that dd/snare did 350-400 in 1.52 i dunno what it will do now, to get 6 sec pbt on earth thurg you can still do decent damage with +ice spec to make varience minimal but in that you also get an aoe root, you can have 29+11 ice thats 40 then add rr on that and your varience is very very minimal for a 179delve dd nuke, the same damage as the supp dd 179 delve except u dont get the snare. Oh yes and you also get pets, does the supp runie have any pets??? nope didnt think so, tbh i really cannot se the problem, if you want 6sec pbt u know u have to sacrifice damage, all realms do all-be-it hibs pbt char is uber in comparison, but the thurg really isnt as gimped as some albs like to make out.

ice wizzie 50 baseline nuke
Lv. Spell Name: Damage Cast Cost Targ
50 Ice Blast (Major) 179 2.6 sec. 33P Enemy

supp runie spec dd/snare

Lv. Spell Name: Damage Snare Cast Cost Targ. Lasts
50 Rune of Mazing 179 35% 3 sec. 33P Enemy 30 sec

your nuke is the same delve damage as well as being faster atthe same power, cry me a river

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by old.Nol
My matter is actually quite good, thrust, cold are the only problems right now. Waiting in queues for mp 100 kit is not only costly but takes some time. I think when you last gave me damage I was 46. Never mind though, I still to do a good enough job out of mezzing you and your ilk

Hmm, think last time was before the weekend when you and your "ilk" decided to hit Benowyc. And I have my MP kit ready myself, I just need to get some more money and SI items. But yes, you and your bard brethren do mezz guuud (unless I happen to manage to land a nearsight just in time).

Btw, don't bother capping matter resist, you won't ever need it. I promise. Just skip it and leave it at 0%. Please?

 

[Flimgoblin]

Suppression runemaster gives up all of 15% of damage (and gains a snare on their spec-line nukes)

to get 6s PBT...

and they get a nice aoe version (which their Healers will kill them for using... never any sorcs around to complain at my earth wizard's aoe dd/snare )

now admittedly there is problems running 6s pbt _and_ nuking (mana drops through the floor) but the aforementioned healer will be kind enough to give you a mana regen buff.

Oh and we'll throw in nearsight just incase you've not got enough toys but hey! earth theurgists get an attack speed debuff!!

Now that they're improving the earth pets it might be getting closer to some parity... but earth theurgists really are lacking.

 

[Rollie_David]

Originally posted by Flimgoblin
Suppression runemaster gives up all of 15% of damage (and gains a snare on their spec-line nukes)

to get 6s PBT...

and they get a nice aoe version (which their Healers will kill them for using... never any sorcs around to complain at my earth wizard's aoe dd/snare )

now admittedly there is problems running 6s pbt _and_ nuking (mana drops through the floor) but the aforementioned healer will be kind enough to give you a mana regen buff.

Oh and we'll throw in nearsight just incase you've not got enough toys but hey! earth theurgists get an attack speed debuff!!

Now that they're improving the earth pets it might be getting closer to some parity... but earth theurgists really are lacking.

i agree the earth line needed something just nothing too extensive as its still a dam good class, when your pets get 2000 range you will see thurgs become a very very nice class.

 

[belth]

The pets live 30 seconds. Half or more of that time is spent on getting to 2k range Give earth spec some kind of nuke or more utility beside the pbt, then it might be worth getting 6 sec pbt.

 

[Korebwyn]

oops, was already answered, nevermind

 

[Trinilim]

Wasn't this thread initially about zergs?

 

[Jiggs]

yeah but its a nicer thread now

and i get the feeling that its no point to be 6sec theurgist now

better to get 2 theurgists with 10sec in group together: better coverage and 5sec at best...

and suppression runemaster is a fantastic class: good support and OK damage...

if you have wild arcana those crit snares are freakin uber

 

[Trinilim]

Be a 6 second theurgist! They're Ub3r! They get tons of cool stuff!

You get 6 second PBT that drains your power faster than a Southern American can play the banjo unless you have powersong and cast no other spells!

You get little lvl 44 minions who run like they have sticks up their arse, do shit damage, are easily mezzed/rooted, last 30 seconds, and cost 12% power!

You get crap base nukes that get resisted 75% of the time and do crap damage anyway!

Wear cloth!

6 sec pbt theurgs = UB3R!

 

[Aussie-]

who the fuck is dune?? he seems to know alot about this game !

 

[Rollie_David]

i played a cleric then the suka account for a few months before i left for middy. It doent take a great deal to know about the classes in this game tbh.

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by Aussie-
he seems to know alot about this game !

I know where you live...

 

[Jiggs]

nope i refuse to spam nonsense tonight, i'm going to bed

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by Jiggs
nope i refuse to spam nonsense tonight, i'm going to bed

you're no fun

 

[Jiggs]

well some people take it too serious you know...

 

[Trinilim]

that's the point

 

[Exinferis]

Originally posted by splash0r
This is a question for all those zerging lameass albs playing in emain what do you think ur zerging brings into this game not RP´s for sure cus with 6 7 grps you wont get much RPs .

question nr 2 would you be happy to drive of even more ppl from excal with ur zerging so you can be all alone will that give you more RPs ? prolly not

Outlaw and co you have never tryied playing RVR with 1 grp or 2 grps ? is it fun to make RPs like that wtf wheres the skill in that ?

Well congrats ppl are leaving everyday for other servers and US so that´s good for excal right ? ffs try earning ur bloody RPs instead of zerging cus zerging take no skill at all

(copy and paste etc .... geoshitties)
working now i think


and equally numbers behind the camera

 

[Trinilim]

Link's not working bud

 

[poppamies]

was a middie zerg in emain tonight, we were about 5fg of us.
It started when we got killed at mmg 3 times by 6-7fg albs, we got more and more ppl porting to emain.
Had to get past mmg some way, then we kept on going for an hour, untill the zerg broke up, we left the zerg as many others did to go 1fg at different places.
Was at DC at 3 am and still ppl reported been killed by 7-8fg of albs in a zerg =(
Sure all realm zerg, we (mids) did for an hour, untill albs were wiped out, tehn we ,and as i guess hibs do , broke up to 1-2 fg going our separate ways.
Albs dont do that, that is the problem with the zergs.
And u albs u can (as been proved alot of times) manage in 1fg against 2fg hibs/mids, IF u learn how to use u chars to the fullest.
Yes u are in some ways underpowerd, but u can still beat 2fg middies with 1fg if u have a reat grp that knows waht todo and are speced the "right" way.

 

[Jergiot]

Re: Re: Re: Thx albs

Originally posted by Tyka


We were 2fgs Tilda, never found a single battle with 2fg of us against 1fg, or even 3fg albs, albs always outnumber us, and you know we stay away from the hib zerg, but we go to wherever albs are.

then u should know that some albs stay away from the alb zerg to....but no...when u hibs whine about zerg its not some albs, its ALL albs...

oh and 2 nights ago there was like 4-5fg hibs lead by CF camping mmg in emain, and i dont feel the urge to come here and whine about it...

just face it, ppl wont stop zerging cause u whine about it :[ (even if u wished they did)

 

[Trinilim]

ok, I've heard time and time again '7-8fg' alb zerg

stop exaggerating please.

we zerg, we don't use relic raid force.

You realize that 8fg+ is over 64 people?

We zerg in groups of around maybe 4-5fg maybe even 6fg at most.

Damn people over exagerating

 

[Qte Eth]

Damn noobs how can u dare to call small 6 fg alb force a "7-8 fg zerg"
and don try to trick us with 64 ppl being relic force lol
ur guard has been killed with 275 enemies in area KTNXBYE

 

[poppamies]

Trinilim


we had dc, got guildmsg a guard been killed by 76 enemy in area.
Came do defend and found 7-8 fg albs at dc.
So yes SOME albs do zerg in 7-9fg ok.

 

[kenshee-himura]

LoL

http://steveberckmoes.telenet.be/overpowered.jpg

Thats all I say to that

 

[Aussie-]

Originally posted by poppamies
was a middie zerg in emain tonight, we were about 5fg of us.
It started when we got killed at mmg 3 times by 6-7fg albs, we got more and more ppl porting to emain.

[00:03:08] [Fluid|Thorey]: rofl 79 mids in emain
[00:03:13] [Fluid|Thorey]: must be a record

you SUCK at lying

 

[Adralend]

Originally posted by Qte Eth
Damn noobs how can u dare to call small 6 fg alb force a "7-8 fg zerg"
and don try to trick us with 64 ppl being relic force lol
ur guard has been killed with 275 enemies in area KTNXBYE

My hero!

 

[Trubble]

Originally posted by dune
once again this wasnt directed at you in general but albion in general, when albion starts rolling thurgs/clerics/minstrels/pbaoe wizzies at the same rate as scouts/inf/fire wizzies and lose in the same way then you might have a case but until then you really and this is albion in general only have yourself to blame.

i was never in a group where the minstrel said c"cleric get BoF ready soon as we see enemy ill hit sos and we can get amongst them"

all i saw was "i have BoF ready to run away guys."

No one is to blame for what character classes that are rolled in a realm. Its a game and you should roll the class that is fun. Blaming people for choosing fun above duty for realm is plain stupid imo. Rather something should be done to make the needed classes fun to play to make sure the needed classes are available to all realms.