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[Scouse]

we give money to Visa and Mastercard for nothing, and they've been terrified Europeans would finally figure that out for years.

Yep. But that's been kind of obvious for ages. I'd be very worried about using a EU government controlled system that wasn't decentralised.

Crypto is made for payments and free from government wankery by design. More secure. More transparent. I'd love it if the west went all in and delivered that slice of freedom to it's citizens.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yep. But that's been kind of obvious for ages. I'd be very worried about using a EU government controlled system that wasn't decentralised.

Crypto is made for payments and free from government wankery by design. More secure. More transparent. I'd love it if the west went all in and delivered that slice of freedom to it's citizens.

It is decentralised. Mobilepay for example was just set up by one Danish bank and all the others joined because they saw the savings. Now it inter-operates with similar services all over the Nordics and no-one really uses their debit cards.

Hilariously. when I worked for a bank we literally tried to do the same thing in Ireland (I was on the Innovation team that built the POC) and at our first meeting with the other banks one of them decided to invite the BizDev director from Mastercard to the fucking meeting. The other banks said no to our plans. Now, five years later they've all agreed to do it because they've finally realised P2P payments may not make money but everyone wants it so they go to Revolut instead. Which is what we said five years ago.

 

[Scouse]

Decentralised in terms of outside of government / bank control though?

That's what I'd very much like to see from a system of exchange.

 

[Raven]

Get in the van, you're nicked!

Three arrested after TVP facial recognition vans used in Slough

Thames Valley Police say the force used the vans in Slough for the first time on Friday.

www.bbc.co.uk

What a time to be alive.

They should just drive around, more targets, a couple of units in the back to grab people off the street, for detainment.

 

[Scouse]

They should just drive around, more targets, a couple of units in the back to grab people off the street, for detainment.

Summary executions. It's the only way to be sure.

If you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear.

 

[Tom]

Nash Is Here For It (@nashishereforit.bsky.social)

Wow.

bsky.app

 

[Scouse]

This is a bit fucking shit:

Climber on trial for leaving girlfriend to die on Austria's highest mountain

Kerstin G's boyfriend is accused of leaving her unprotected and exhausted close to the summit during a blizzard.

www.bbc.co.uk

She's clearly responsible for herself and her own safety. If this was a guided paid-for tour then there might be criminal liability here. But it's not. It's two adults going up a mountain of their own free will.

It brought back memories of a trip up Y Garn a couple of years ago. Me and the o/h and another couple. Was about -25 with wind chill at the top and the girl from the other couple was clearly not prepared for the level of cold she was experiencing. I've not done a lot of cold-weather mountaineering (I'd definitely call myself amateur at best) and a couple of times said we should think about turning back - but she knew she was only maybe half a click from the summit and wanted to prod on. It got slower and slower until she threw all her toys out of the pram. Made the call about 200m from the summit.

I had a shelter so if the shit hit the fan we could have stuffed someone in there, but it would have been desparately grim. We all could have been better nick. I, technically, was the most experienced. The idea that she wasn't entirely responsible for herself is ludicrous though. You can take a horse to water, but if it refuses to drink and you plod on - with their reassurance that they're fine (even if you feel like they're not) - then it's not on you to throw your toys out of the pram and play "daddy" with them.

Personal responsibility has to mean something.

 

[Raven]

https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/crime/police-cordon-of-park-in-northampton-as-part-of-major-emergency-response-5603703#

6 stabbed, 2 dead, according to Facebook.

Saw a chopper come in at about 15:30, from work.

Fucking wank.

 

[SilverHood]

This is a bit fucking shit:

Climber on trial for leaving girlfriend to die on Austria's highest mountain

Kerstin G's boyfriend is accused of leaving her unprotected and exhausted close to the summit during a blizzard.

www.bbc.co.uk

She's clearly responsible for herself and her own safety. If this was a guided paid-for tour then there might be criminal liability here. But it's not. It's two adults going up a mountain of their own free will.

It brought back memories of a trip up Y Garn a couple of years ago. Me and the o/h and another couple. Was about -25 with wind chill at the top and the girl from the other couple was clearly not prepared for the level of cold she was experiencing. I've not done a lot of cold-weather mountaineering (I'd definitely call myself amateur at best) and a couple of times said we should think about turning back - but she knew she was only maybe half a click from the summit and wanted to prod on. It got slower and slower until she threw all her toys out of the pram. Made the call about 200m from the summit.

I had a shelter so if the shit hit the fan we could have stuffed someone in there, but it would have been desparately grim. We all could have been better nick. I, technically, was the most experienced. The idea that she wasn't entirely responsible for herself is ludicrous though. You can take a horse to water, but if it refuses to drink and you plod on - with their reassurance that they're fine (even if you feel like they're not) - then it's not on you to throw your toys out of the pram and play "daddy" with them.

Personal responsibility has to mean something.

I was reading about this on other sites. This one seems pretty detailed: Climber Faces Homicide Charges After His Partner Dies. When Does a Bad Decision Become a Crime?

Seems like a series of bad decisions one after the other. Looks like he just abandoned her, without giving her a chance.

 

[DaGaffer]

Belgian investigation into three Jewish men sparks diplomatic row with US

US ambassador accused of interference after labelling inquiry into suspected illegal circumcisions ‘antisemitic’

www.theguardian.com

Belgium should demand the cunt is recalled immediately.

 

[Scouse]

Seems like a series of bad decisions one after the other. Looks like he just abandoned her, without giving her a chance.

Grossly negligent homicide.

But he's not responsible for her. She was.

They say stuff like he "had Gurtner climbing in soft snowboard boots". He had her. Like he dresses her. They were both able to signal for distress when the chopper flew over - but she didn't. He didn't use her bivouac sack. Why didn't she?

Apparently, she had her own phone... 🤷

 

[Gwadien]

Grossly negligent homicide.

But he's not responsible for her. She was.

They say stuff like he "had Gurtner climbing in soft snowboard boots". He had her. Like he dresses her. They were both able to signal for distress when the chopper flew over - but she didn't. He didn't use her bivouac sack. Why didn't she?

Apparently, she had her own phone... 🤷

I guess that's what they'll investigate - was she actually aware of the risk or was she coerced to do it.

Also there will be obvious early signs of her decline, why did they not turn back sooner? Was he pushing her to finish it? I think that'd probably make him culpable to a degree.

 

[Scouse]

Not to a criminal degree.

Read the article @SilverHood posted. All sorts of emotions are in play at the top of these things. And coercion is out of the question. You don't climb to 12,000 feet anything other than enthusiastically.

I suspect if this was a slightly more experienced woman leaving a less experienced man we wouldn't even be having the conversation.