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fettoken

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https://www.quora.com/What-caused-Sweden-rape-statistics-to-rise-significantly-in-the-past-years

Interesting.

It's a bit like in the UK we do not have once conviction of female genital mutilation, so therefore we have 0 cases of it.

Great isn't it?

You don't suppose people have (has?) gotten more rapey rapey and touchy in the recent years? What i don't appreciate is the assumption many people jump to, that it's just more people reporting it.

The female genital mutilation-cases must be represented somewhere right? Some would argue it's just a cultural barrier.
 

Gwadien

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You don't suppose people have (has?) gotten more rapey rapey and touchy in the recent years? What i don't appreciate is the assumption many people jump to, that it's just more people reporting it.

The female genital mutilation-cases must be represented somewhere right? Some would argue it's just a cultural barrier.

Well if there ain't no conviction stats then it doesn't exist.

As for Sweden I dunno.

It's a bit like domestic violence - there's been a massive campaign for both men and women not to keep quiet about it and as a result cases have shot through the roof, but is it a bad thing? Or are people just reporting it more?

I'm not gonna suggest that the influx of migrants has had an impact but not catastrophicically though.

Asking people is more interesting - do you feel safe? Even then the vast majority of responses will be pre-determined by people's exposure to the media and being told that where you live is no longer safe.
 

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DaGaffer

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You don't suppose people have (has?) gotten more rapey rapey and touchy in the recent years? What i don't appreciate is the assumption many people jump to, that it's just more people reporting it.

The female genital mutilation-cases must be represented somewhere right? Some would argue it's just a cultural barrier.

Bluntly, no, I don’t think people have got more “rapey rapey” in the last few years, and yes it mostly is more reporting and a massive widening of the net. A good example would be the whole Julian Assange thing; the idea in Sweden that you can change your mind after the fact (as these women both did) and a Swedish judge will convict, is ludicrous. We’re into “written contracts for hookups” territory here, and even then men are are on shaky ground if a woman decides to get pissy. There was also the prostitution ban which swept up thousands of men and women into the stats, and mainly just moved the “problem” to the Baltics and Russia anyway.

I think you can definitely make the case that sexual assault stats are under-reported globally, but I don’t think the Swedish approach to sexual politics in general is healthy; it looks like institutional misandry to me.
 

fettoken

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Bluntly, no, I don’t think people have got more “rapey rapey” in the last few years, and yes it mostly is more reporting and a massive widening of the net. A good example would be the whole Julian Assange thing; the idea in Sweden that you can change your mind after the fact (as these women both did) and a Swedish judge will convict, is ludicrous. We’re into “written contracts for hookups” territory here, and even then men are are on shaky ground if a woman decides to get pissy. There was also the prostitution ban which swept up thousands of men and women into the stats, and mainly just moved the “problem” to the Baltics and Russia anyway.

I think you can definitely make the case that sexual assault stats are under-reported globally, but I don’t think the Swedish approach to sexual politics in general is healthy; it looks like institutional misandry to me.

I'd chalk up some to increased population, cultural barriers, and yes, the social media boom which i think gives people incentive to share what has happened. On one side, within Swedish law, you can't accuse and slander people for such a crime that happened so long ago (#MeToo), but on the other side, I'd say it's their right as well (within Swedish law, the limitation-time is 10 or 15 years depending on the severity).
BUT, i do agree wholeheartedly with what you mention in regards to changing your mind, OR, letting the society we live in as such, change it for you, from, "I didn't really want to have sex but he kept nagging" to "Well, i guess it was rape".

And yes, there's a law that's been championed by a group of individuals that says you have to both ask each other clearly and both has to say yes, to be able to initiate sex. So right you are, contracts next, OR, you have to sign in using some kind of mobile phone app ID that you get from your bank. We use those to sign in when we tax. Why not when fucking as well, so they can register our fuck-stats.

I think it's one of the hardest cases to crack open, that is why only like 4% or some such leads to conviction (In Sweden).
 

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Ignoring how fucking scary the idea of letting the government know when you getting down, isn't that sort of thing not just going to completely kill the moment?

It's bad enough fumbling around with a condom, but logging into an app first?
 

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Ignoring how fucking scary the idea of letting the government know when you getting down, isn't that sort of thing not just going to completely kill the moment?

It's bad enough fumbling around with a condom, but logging into an app first?
I always use an app before and even during sex. Can't gert hard if I'm not recording
 

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Ignoring how fucking scary the idea of letting the government know when you getting down, isn't that sort of thing not just going to completely kill the moment?

It's bad enough fumbling around with a condom, but logging into an app first?

Could always put it on the blockchain.
 

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Just got called a hypcrite because I condemned a man for trophy hunting when I choose to eat meat. I fucking hate militant Vegans.
 

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Didn't some rank outsider win the Grand National a few years back at 66-1?

Wouldnt have minded sticking 10k on that

Would have made more buying 10k worth of Apple stock.

I won £55 on Comply or Die back in they day
 

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GoT

Apparently everyone dies in the final season of Game of Thrones {airing April 2019}.

Will they come up with an imaginative way to kill Cersei? Or will it be by Jaime? You'd expect Arya perhaps, but it's GoT, so what then? Arya is killed by the Mountain just as she approaches Cersei. Jaime kills Cersei. Jaime and the Mountain share a look, strip off their armour and make love.
 

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That an actual spoiler or some comedy thing or something? If it's an actual spoiler...

Scared to click. Saw some bad text straight away...
 

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GoT

Apparently everyone dies in the final season of Game of Thrones {airing April 2019}.

Will they come up with an imaginative way to kill Cersei? Or will it be by Jaime? You'd expect Arya perhaps, but it's GoT, so what then? Arya is killed by the Mountain just as she approaches Cersei. Jaime kills Cersei. Jaime and the Mountain share a look, strip off their armour and make love.

Passed caring tbh :p GoT was shit after the first 3 seasons, he justs continued killing people off because it caught crowd attention, it's a pile of shite.
 

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Passed caring tbh :p GoT was shit after the first 3 seasons, he justs continued killing people off because it caught crowd attention, it's a pile of shite.
Wtf are you talking about? I think you're confusing it with The Walking Dead.

That an actual spoiler or some comedy thing or something? If it's an actual spoiler...

Scared to click. Saw some bad text straight away...
It's not a spoiler (in that it doesn't say "x is definitely going to happen"), it starts with "apparently" and then deteriorates into a @Lamp ramble.
 

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I thought these had disappeared years ago. Photographed in Streatham a few days ago

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Tessa Jowell should have been London mayor. I got a feeling she would have done a better job at No. 10 than the current shower of shite. RIP.
 

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